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MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 11:22 AM Jul 2020

I Am Constantly Outraged by Donald J. Trump. However,

I do not think there is any way to stop him before the November election. My outrage continues, but I believe that there is nothing I can do to remove him from office before November 3. I do not believe there is anything any of us can do that will get rid of him before then.

So, I'm not expending my energy on being outraged. Instead, I'm looking for ways to help him lose that election on November 3. It is too late to do anything that will get him out of office before the election.

I recommend, instead, working in whatever way you can on making sure that people vote on November 3. We may well need to have an overwhelming number of people voting for Joe Biden to counteract efforts on Trump's part to steal the election. We can help with that by individually making sure that each of us helps two or three or even more people vote for Biden.

Please consider taking the energy you are expending in being outraged and put it to use helping Joe Biden win in November, along with every other possible Democratic candidate for public office.

That is how we will rid ourselves of Donald Trump. It is the only way we will do that.

Thank you for reading this post.

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I Am Constantly Outraged by Donald J. Trump. However, (Original Post) MineralMan Jul 2020 OP
Absolutely this. Zoonart Jul 2020 #1
Yup. Thanks! MineralMan Jul 2020 #2
This. StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #3
Agreed! SallyHemmings Jul 2020 #4
Agree, mostly, but tough to do since each day brings a new outrage. TreasonousBastard Jul 2020 #5
One can be outraged while still working for change in realistic ways. MineralMan Jul 2020 #6
I totally agree, we need to deep six the entire GOP in this election and in a big way. redstatebluegirl Jul 2020 #7
Yes, I think he will do that, too. MineralMan Jul 2020 #8
Yes, and get our people to stop looking at the polls and feeling safe. redstatebluegirl Jul 2020 #9
Exactly. We must not become complacent MineralMan Jul 2020 #10
Spot on!! zeusdogmom Jul 2020 #40
You bet! redstatebluegirl Jul 2020 #41
I don't see it as "either, or" Mike 03 Jul 2020 #11
I agree. However, some people MineralMan Jul 2020 #12
It is more important than usual to run up the score this time. chriscan64 Jul 2020 #13
Yes, exactly. MineralMan Jul 2020 #14
I'm tired of being outraged. It seems like every day The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #15
My Spouse and I Wellstone ruled Jul 2020 #16
I think Trump should skim as much campaign money as he possibly can. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #19
Best guess is, Wellstone ruled Jul 2020 #20
We needto move from Trump's Nuremberg Rallies to Trump's Nuremberg Trials. sop Jul 2020 #25
Had our Democratic Party Wellstone ruled Jul 2020 #26
There is much truth in this. The lack of accountability is a large reason for why we are here. Evolve Dammit Jul 2020 #34
YES!!!! The Powerful Never Pay! McKim Jul 2020 #42
That one sucks a ton. Wellstone ruled Jul 2020 #44
Agree MineralMan. We also need to support one another during this time... KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2020 #17
K&R lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #18
Great advice. Pepsidog Jul 2020 #21
Agreed. Not just Trump but the whole GOP. . . DinahMoeHum Jul 2020 #22
Right there with ya, my friend. calimary Jul 2020 #23
If you REALLY want to "step-it-up" (and you should!) MyOwnPeace Jul 2020 #24
+1000 CaptainTruth Jul 2020 #28
I agree with you. gademocrat7 Jul 2020 #27
This may sound odd to some, but... CaptainTruth Jul 2020 #29
On my 134th GOTV postcard.... Heartstrings Jul 2020 #30
Yes! MineralMan Jul 2020 #31
I have a stack to write for PostcardsToVoters yellowdogintexas Jul 2020 #36
Agree, MM peggysue2 Jul 2020 #32
There is no other way...K&R Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #33
I agree tiptonic Jul 2020 #35
K&R SammyWinstonJack Jul 2020 #37
Check out the local grass roots groups in your area yellowdogintexas Jul 2020 #38
Yes. It all starts right where you live. MineralMan Jul 2020 #39
Work for Your Local Democratic Party and Call for His Resignation! McKim Jul 2020 #43
Help folks get to the polls. nt oasis Jul 2020 #45
KnR N_E_1 for Tennis Jul 2020 #46
Not too Late Roy Rolling Jul 2020 #47
Does double duty MomInTheCrowd Jul 2020 #48
Thank you, MM. Firestorm49 Jul 2020 #49
We can't stop him, but we've seen him back off when challenged, like with deporting foreign students catrose Jul 2020 #50
Yep..the time to remove was late 2017. His approval Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #51
I want to remind the Biden campaign of this winner of a campaign promise: lambchopp59 Jul 2020 #52
dems are too quick to assume they can win with better GOTV certainot Jul 2020 #53

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
6. One can be outraged while still working for change in realistic ways.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 11:32 AM
Jul 2020

It's just a matter of putting that outrage to work doing something that can accomplish a goal.

That's what I'm recommending, you see.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
7. I totally agree, we need to deep six the entire GOP in this election and in a big way.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 11:32 AM
Jul 2020

I do think he will step down if he loses big in November so Pence can pardon him and his minions. I hope so for our sake, what damage he could do between November and January 20th is mind boggling.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
8. Yes, I think he will do that, too.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 11:34 AM
Jul 2020

I've said as much many times here on DU. But, first, we must win in a landslide victory. We can do that, but we will have to work to get people to vote in November.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
9. Yes, and get our people to stop looking at the polls and feeling safe.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 11:35 AM
Jul 2020

Nothing is safe until all of us show up in November.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
10. Exactly. We must not become complacent
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 11:36 AM
Jul 2020

about this election. We have made that mistake in the past, and must not repeat it in 2020.

zeusdogmom

(987 posts)
40. Spot on!!
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 02:23 PM
Jul 2020

I just returned from a trip to a local fruit/farm market - mainly to pick up my order of tart cherries, but also other things. I really try to buy local as much as possible. But back on track - this place is out in the country and DU friends - from the number of signs I saw, it is Trump country. Big time. It is pretty obvious the community is behind Trump 100% and will be voting. And those are just the people who aren't too embarrassed to put up a Trump sign i.e. I'm pretty sure there are a whole lot of closet Trump voters out there, too. So as it has been stated many times we must be engaged in beating Trump and his cronies Every. Single. Day. between now and November. Stay focused. Stay strong.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
11. I don't see it as "either, or"
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 11:38 AM
Jul 2020

The outrage can be used as fuel for doing the things you recommend. I'd have to pretend I don't see what's going on in order not to experience outrage. Rather than having to pick one to the exclusion of the other, I see them as complimentary, or as in harmony.

But I take your point!



MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
12. I agree. However, some people
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 11:45 AM
Jul 2020

seem to think their outrage is enough and that Trump is doomed to lose. That is most definitely not true.

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
13. It is more important than usual to run up the score this time.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 11:46 AM
Jul 2020

We also have to get rid of the politics that led to Trump. The readiness for someone like him was a pre-existing condition. A whole block of republican voters rejected McCain and Romney for not being nasty enough or insulting enough. The perfect candidate for them was a myth until Trump filled the role.

We need to show the world this November that this type of politics has no future. Eventually, politicians will go to where the people are. It is imperative that we make clear where they are now.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,612 posts)
15. I'm tired of being outraged. It seems like every day
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 11:48 AM
Jul 2020

he does something outrageous - sometimes several times a day. I don't want his outrageousness to become normalized, but at the same time we know by now that he can be expected to do outrageous things all the time. It's actually surprising when he makes it through a whole day without flinging poo like an orangutan on meth. For that reason there's not much point in freaking out over the latest outrage. It's exhausting. Don't act like he's normal, just get him the hell out of the White House.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
16. My Spouse and I
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 11:55 AM
Jul 2020

doing our little bit to ensure Biden runs the table. Like you,feels like we are straight jacket bound. Will each passing day,the Trump Manure pile gets higher and smellier .

Noticed Maddow posted the flow chart showing Trump Campaign Contributions being washed into his Private Companies.

What a bunch of Suckers.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
20. Best guess is,
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 12:06 PM
Jul 2020

Trump Crime Syndicate will skim every dime. We as Taxpayers are paying for his Rallies and Plane fare.

By this time next year,Trump and his Family will be on the verge of Poverty or well on their way. When New York State finishes,then our DOJ will do mop up. Court systems are slow and Donnies and his minions know how to work the Clock,but,those days appear to be coming to a head.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
26. Had our Democratic Party
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 12:50 PM
Jul 2020

pursued Nixon and Reagan and Bush abuse of power things,we would not be in this situation.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
42. YES!!!! The Powerful Never Pay!
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 02:33 PM
Jul 2020

Yes, the powerful never pay for their massive crimes. A million Iraqis died as a result of the war and there have been massive displacement of people causing a refugee crisis in Europe from Iraq, Syria, Lybia and Lebanon. But our leaders never pay for their crimes.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
17. Agree MineralMan. We also need to support one another during this time...
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 11:58 AM
Jul 2020

so we all stay sane and focused and don't get careless with COVID-19.

In other words, maintenance of community........

Right now there are so many Democratic Party candidates and causes and international/national charities that are pleading for help, it's driving me nuts with my limited retirement income.

DinahMoeHum

(21,774 posts)
22. Agreed. Not just Trump but the whole GOP. . .
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 12:37 PM
Jul 2020

We have to make the GOP the equivalent of the German army at Stalingrad after their surrender in January 1943.

Beaten, broken, sick, starved, no hope.

NO MERCY, boys and girls.

In for a dime, in for a dollar.

Bust ours to kick theirs.

Pedal to the metal all the way to November 3 and beyond.

Factio Republicana Delenda Est. . . The Republican Party Must Be Destroyed.



MyOwnPeace

(16,920 posts)
24. If you REALLY want to "step-it-up" (and you should!)
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 12:43 PM
Jul 2020

you (meaning ALL OF US!!!!) should work even harder to swing the Senate so that Joe can actually have a team to work with to do what is necessary to get this country of ours back on the "GOOD SIDE!" YES, the entire slate - DEMOCRATS!!!!!!!!

CaptainTruth

(6,576 posts)
29. This may sound odd to some, but...
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 01:14 PM
Jul 2020

...at this point I actually *want* Trump in office on Nov 3, for a few reasons:

1) I want him to suffer humiliating defeat.

2) I don't want Pence at the top of the ticket. I see a lot of life-long Republicans who will vote for Biden over Trump, but I believe many of them would vote for Pence over Biden, so having Pence at the top of the ticket makes it harder for Biden to win.

3) I don't want POTUS Pence to give Trump a blanket pardon. (Yes, I realize Trump could resign on January 19 & Pence could pardon him before noon on the 20th.)

peggysue2

(10,824 posts)
32. Agree, MM
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 01:21 PM
Jul 2020

Eyes on the only prize that matters at the moment--the complete obliteration of Trump and his enablers. That means taking control of the WH, House and Senate, so that we can repair the hideous damage Trump has wrought, shore up our institutions and then forge ahead with the pressing needs of the country.

It's why a electoral blowout is necessary. Not simply for vengeance (although I feel plenty vengeful) but to completely repudiate the false and distorted ideology of Trumpism itself. This isn't the first time the country has veered towards the Dark Side. However, now is the time to rip this particular strain out, root and branch as McConnell is so fond of saying.

Outrage can be a motivator to get things done. On the reverse side, outrage can leave people fatigued and hopeless. We cannot afford the latter or anything else that distracts from the priority of indisputably beating Trump, humiliating him and his enablers and forcing them all to crawl back under their rocks.

Our futures depend on a huge victory on November 3rd. Losing is not an option.

tiptonic

(765 posts)
35. I agree
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 01:27 PM
Jul 2020

Trying to do my little part but they keep asking me, for more money. The system is broken and it was before Benedict donald, came on the scene.

yellowdogintexas

(22,235 posts)
38. Check out the local grass roots groups in your area
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 01:33 PM
Jul 2020

as well as the candidate campaigns. There are Democratic Woman's Clubs all over the nation, and they are fired up. They are busy raising money, registering voters, postcard writing and registering voters.

Our local club has 300 members and we are working on creative ways to raise money since we can't hold a big bash in these very strange times. We will donate as much as possible to the Democratic Women who will be on the ballot in Tarrant County Texas.

I encourage every Democrat to join as many of these groups as possible; dues are small (our dues are $35 per year); donate to them and support them however you can.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
43. Work for Your Local Democratic Party and Call for His Resignation!
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 02:36 PM
Jul 2020

Work for your local Democratic Party and do call for his resignation. It costs so little time to also push against Trump to join calls to resign. Major damage can occur once this idea is pumped through the media. It’s our duty, as it could save many lives!

Roy Rolling

(6,908 posts)
47. Not too Late
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 07:02 AM
Jul 2020

It isn’t too late to cut a deal and resign. Unlikely, but it’s the only way, perhaps, to stay out of jail like his buddy Epstein.

And since Trumps tactic is to stall, let him do that from confinement. I can wait five or ten years for the legal system to play out...as long as Trump remains incarcerated somewhere. Let him wait in a jail cell until all of the appeals have run out.

MomInTheCrowd

(268 posts)
48. Does double duty
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 09:40 AM
Jul 2020

It protects my (our) mental health and the less attention he gets, the less attention he gets

Firestorm49

(4,030 posts)
49. Thank you, MM.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:21 AM
Jul 2020

I am gratified that the workings of my simple mind have come to fruition.

The day Biden said that he was entering the race, I stated that he would be the nominee. And, very early on, I also stated that a close election will more than likely result in a loss for Dems. A landslide is what is needed to overcome a close (rigged) election.

Thanks, MM.

catrose

(5,061 posts)
50. We can't stop him, but we've seen him back off when challenged, like with deporting foreign students
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 12:59 PM
Jul 2020

So I hope there will be enough challenges to make him back off his worst ideas (We can take it in shifts.) while keeping our collective eye on the Nov 3 prize.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
51. Yep..the time to remove was late 2017. His approval
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 09:51 PM
Jul 2020

went down to 36. November 15 2017, Steve Cohen D-TN introduced brilliant articles of impeachment and no one would back it. Not saying repukes would have voted to kick him out..but it might have been our best shot. Silence for two more years equated to tacit approval.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
52. I want to remind the Biden campaign of this winner of a campaign promise:
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 11:11 AM
Jul 2020

Don't dismiss the youth vote, we need them. Attract them with humor:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1294986

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
53. dems are too quick to assume they can win with better GOTV
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:27 AM
Jul 2020

dems are too quick to assume close votes and GOP election wins are due to public are due to 'human nature' - apathy, ignorance, the general effects of corporate money and media.

media is the difference but by ignoring radio, many democratic strategies are practically worthless.

at $1000/hr x 15 hrs/day x 1200 radio stations GOP's radio GOTV is worth $90MIL/wk FREE, reaching 50 mil/wk and that advantage has gotten NO direct pushback from democrats or progressives except a few boycott actions that were largely ignored by established dem and progressive organizations.

for years a lot of outrage and activism has been aimed at symptoms of a major democratic and progressive oversight/mistake

major attention is given to pushing back at regressive republican activism (like from ALEC) used to deregulate, to suppress voting, to criminalize, to separate, to roll back rights, to elect and place corporate lackeys, etc. and most of that progressive activism is in response AFTER the country has been blasted with the unchallenged widespread lies and distortions used to create the made-to-order constituencies that make republican regression possible.

there are think tanks all over the country pushing that crap. high paid PR pros sit around looking for progress, yawn, design PR to counter or distort it. or push what or who they want. unlike other media those radio stations can be locally coordinated and are constantly turning molehills into mountains and visa versa as coordinated and fed by the RW media apparatus.

so someone, maybe russian, feeds/triggers jerome corsi and rush limbaugh to turn ebola into a major obama failure and threat to america and by blowing it up in october 2014 can turn 9 senate seats and go silent on the subject after the election success, as if ebola attacking america never happened. and to most democrats it never did happen and we blame the democratic party, obama, and lousy, non-progressive or too liberal candidates.....

we cannot have fact-based national discussions about any issue until democrats stop ignoring the talk radio monopoly.

there is a perfect storm headed at talk radio and democrats would be continuing the biggest political mistake in history if they don't take advantage of it-

1/limbaugh dying will disrupt their united chorus as replacements position to take his hours and the ad industry faces 15 hrs/week on 600 stations losing considerable ad value
2/ artificial intelligence means talk radio is easy and cheap to digitize and RW radio advertisers may face stoprush x 100 if the ad industry doesn't preemptively finally impose actual market demand for the hate, racism, and lies by asking advertisers if they really want to support trump, racism, global warming, etc
3/ exposure of putin/russian use of talk radio since at least 2008 will greatly reduce its influence - including using limbaugh and sons to deny and delay action on COVID and getting tens of thousands killled
4/ exposure of trump admin dependence on and coordination with limbaugh/talk radio since 2014 at least - the collusion right under our noses
5/ attention to the fact that the RW radio monopoly is heavily dependent on black athletes who play for at least 87 universities and many pro teams that broadcast sports on hundreds of RW radio stations - an unholy alliance between republican propaganda and pro sports

a few athletes telling their teams they don't want them to keep supporting attacks on BLM can completely destroy the
the only unique advantage republicans have

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