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SouthernCal_Dem

(852 posts)
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 03:45 PM Jul 2020

McConnell has 'given up' on Trump's re-election and is making plans to handcuff Biden

This is very similar to the 2008 Republican playbook where Republicans intentionally handed Obama a shit sandwich and then did everything they could to stymie him.

Remember the screams about how Obama was presiding over a "slow" economic recovery while Republicans were simultaneously blocking any sort of stimulus?

We're about to see it all over again...

In a column for the Washington Post, longtime political observer Paul Waldman pondered the fact that Donald Trump and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell both know that the economy is headed for another collapse due to the coronavirus pandemic unless Congress comes up with another stimulus package — and yet they seem in no hurry to avert the fall.

Viewing their intransigence, Waldman admits it “seems like a crazy question to ask, they face an electoral catastrophe that might be mitigated by easing America’s economic pain,” but they seem more interested in small political victories rather trying to stop the inevitable downward spiral if they don’t step in and agree to another massive bail-out.

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Writing, “He [McConnell} has already given up on the idea of Trump being reelected, and he’s planning for the future,” Waldman said the Kentucky Republican would rather the economy continue to flounder about under the current president and let former Vice President Joe Biden inherit a mess — then blame him if he doesn’t clean it up quickly.

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“From where he [McConnell] sits, the best outcome now may be to use the next stimulus package to win some minor ideological victories, but not allow it to be substantial enough to set the stage for a genuine recovery,” he wrote before suggesting, “… if and when Biden becomes president in 2021, the situation will be no less dire than it is now — and maybe more so. And the worse things are in the country at that point, the better it is for Republicans. Just as they did when Barack Obama was president, they can blame Democrats for their own mistakes, then force austerity measures that sabotage the economy and slow the recovery.

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/mcconnell-has-given-up-on-trumps-re-election-and-is-making-plans-to-handcuff-biden-columnist/
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McConnell has 'given up' on Trump's re-election and is making plans to handcuff Biden (Original Post) SouthernCal_Dem Jul 2020 OP
Mitch, do your plans for the future include not being in the Senate? gratuitous Jul 2020 #1
Yep, and if he blocks the extension of UI benefits and the rest of the Heros act HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #8
Do they have golf in white collar federal prisons? lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #14
Why would he be in prison? HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #15
taking bribes from Putin. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #16
Um, OK. HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #17
Moscow Mitch has been rolling around in dirty Russian money for quite some time now... FM123 Jul 2020 #24
Indeed! I hope McGrath can pull it out! ananda Jul 2020 #32
I hope he's defeated... dawg day Jul 2020 #2
Sounds about right. Nevilledog Jul 2020 #3
The Lincoln project needs to keep their ads going well past January and into the midterms. jorgevlorgan Jul 2020 #4
+ 1000 n/t MFGsunny Jul 2020 #11
That being said, he can say whatever crap he wants, but if Democrats have full control of government jorgevlorgan Jul 2020 #27
I think some of them have burned their bridges with most of the GOP NewJeffCT Jul 2020 #33
All of those sound fairly reasonable to their agenda... jorgevlorgan Jul 2020 #35
Mcturtle may not be majority leader or even in the senate . . . Iliyah Jul 2020 #5
Right. McConnell is playing the long game for the party. Buckeyeblue Jul 2020 #26
if Democrats can hold hearings on Kavanaugh NewJeffCT Jul 2020 #36
I think it would be better to show Trump was illegitimate Buckeyeblue Jul 2020 #38
that's the kind of 'patriot' that ole mitch is..... spanone Jul 2020 #6
If we do not take the Senate, that is 100% GUARANTEED to happen... Moostache Jul 2020 #7
'...i want my pound of flesh..' Volaris Jul 2020 #19
Biden will just ignore Mcconnell. pwb Jul 2020 #9
It's what they do. Each and every time. AleksS Jul 2020 #10
So what has changed? The Dems have given them hundreds of bills and he refuses to act Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #12
I think it would be worth it if it got rid of Trump. patricia92243 Jul 2020 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author marie999 Jul 2020 #18
Here's a couple of reliable forecasts Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #22
"Given up"...? I seriously doubt it. regnaD kciN Jul 2020 #20
Years ago, I remember reading an article Bayard Jul 2020 #21
They can't do it if we win back the Senate, keep the House and elect Biden. Doremus Jul 2020 #23
Another Reason to Donate to Amy McGrath. IllinoisBirdWatcher Jul 2020 #25
Indeed! 👍 Duppers Jul 2020 #42
What if McConnell loses? McConnell is a suck up to Trump, maybe Kentucky will evict him. Stuart G Jul 2020 #28
Senate Dems figure out a way to use all the tools they have to pass bills when in majority FloridaBlues Jul 2020 #29
Kill the fillibuster...without that nothing else gets done... Wounded Bear Jul 2020 #41
I hope this article finally puts to bed the myth of bi-partisanship. Yavin4 Jul 2020 #30
If he loses majority, I cannot wait to hear his calls for "bipartisanship" JDC Jul 2020 #31
He won't do that...he is still trying for the Senate...and if the economy falters, game over. Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #34
It's time to put up a fucking armada of strawmen. theaocp Jul 2020 #37
One of these days he'll croak malaise Jul 2020 #39
McConnell and Gaetz in my very humble opinion KentuckyWoman Jul 2020 #40
Gods forgive me, I hate McConnell and the GOP Hekate Jul 2020 #43

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. Mitch, do your plans for the future include not being in the Senate?
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 03:47 PM
Jul 2020

Because from where I sit, that looks like a distinct possibility, asshole.

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
8. Yep, and if he blocks the extension of UI benefits and the rest of the Heros act
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 03:50 PM
Jul 2020

and/or guts it, he'll be golfing with quite a few ex-Republican Senators next Spring.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
2. I hope he's defeated...
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 03:47 PM
Jul 2020

or at least the Dems win a majority.

McConnell is a good argument for a parliamentary system, where one party controls for the term, and the other can't pull this sht.

jorgevlorgan

(8,287 posts)
4. The Lincoln project needs to keep their ads going well past January and into the midterms.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 03:49 PM
Jul 2020

If they really do care about this country, they cannot allow these same psychopaths to regain any lever of power after they lose it.

It's funny because I had this exact thought shortly before clicking the link...

jorgevlorgan

(8,287 posts)
27. That being said, he can say whatever crap he wants, but if Democrats have full control of government
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 04:39 PM
Jul 2020

and are willing to think big, they will likely be able to reverse things rather quickly. Maybe that's just wishful thinking lol

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
33. I think some of them have burned their bridges with most of the GOP
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 05:24 PM
Jul 2020

so will work to purge their party and rebuild it and hope to merge the new party with some moderate Dems.

However, I also think some of them will try to get behind some sane conservative candidates for 2024 (Romney, Kasich, Hogan, Baker in Mass, etc)

jorgevlorgan

(8,287 posts)
35. All of those sound fairly reasonable to their agenda...
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 05:30 PM
Jul 2020

But nobody should be so stupid to fall for the same strategy they used in 2010...

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. Mcturtle may not be majority leader or even in the senate . . .
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 03:50 PM
Jul 2020

But at this point in time there are so many stories about republicans possibility of losing the senate and shithole losing that all I can do is keep the eye on the prize no matter what.

VOTE

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
26. Right. McConnell is playing the long game for the party.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 04:38 PM
Jul 2020

They will blame everything on Joe for the midterms to try to win back as much ground as possible. And then for 2024, try to flip everything back. Trump will likely be either dead or informed by then. The kids will be laying low. The name Trump won't even be uttered by Republicans by then.

They figure Joe will get to replace RBG and Breyer. But if the 5 conservatives can hold out, the court won't shift.

Everything has to work out for this strategy to work. But right now it's all they have.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
36. if Democrats can hold hearings on Kavanaugh
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 05:30 PM
Jul 2020

and his other sexual harrasment/assault victims, it may have an impact

Unless it's a gigantic blue tsunami, I don't think impeaching Kavanaugh or Thomas will fly - only 1 SCOTUS justice ws impeached and that was 2010 years ago, and he was acquited.

Democrats could also pass a law increasing the size of the federal judiciary - 1/2 judges for each circuit court and 1 for each appellate court. Call it a Judicial Emergency

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
38. I think it would be better to show Trump was illegitimate
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 08:48 PM
Jul 2020

And put pressure on his two nominees to step down.

spanone

(135,823 posts)
6. that's the kind of 'patriot' that ole mitch is.....
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 03:50 PM
Jul 2020

he doesn't give a shit about the nation..not one whit

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
7. If we do not take the Senate, that is 100% GUARANTEED to happen...
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 03:50 PM
Jul 2020

Makes it even more important to see a colossal blue tsunami in November...I am talking about expanding the House majority, taking back the Senate AND keeping the filibuster DEAD as Dillinger, and getting Biden in the Oval Office.

We also need to knock off some of these asshole governors and state houses too.

THEN...there MUST be a reckoning after this disaster that is Trump 2017-2021. There must be legislation to codify and enforce every 'norm' that has been shattered. There must be prosecutions for Barr and Trump and everyone else associated with their obstruction and their abuses of power and financial fraud. There must be JAIL TIME for Ivanka and Jared and anyone else found guilty.

There IS NO FUTURE without a complete accounting for the recent past this time...no free fucking pass, no 'looking forward, not back'...uh-nuh...not this time. THIS time, I want my pound of flesh and I am going to get it by any means necessary.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
19. '...i want my pound of flesh..'
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 04:11 PM
Jul 2020

Completely agree. Let the trumpers scream and cry all they want about witch hunts. When the DOJ under Biden releases the unredacted mueller report and opens their own investigation, they wont have any legs to stand on.

The republicans that enabled this, and actively participated; will not be able to escape the wrath of the american people.

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
10. It's what they do. Each and every time.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 03:51 PM
Jul 2020

Hand over a shit show, and complain that we're not cleaning up their mess fast enough.

I imagine (hope!) that Biden has learned from experience and is ready for the shenanigans this time.

Come out the door swinging and swinging hard, and understand he'll get no cooperation and lay that right at their feet.

It's one of the very very very few criticisms I have of Obama, and it wasn't even his fault, per se, but he kept giving Republicans the benefit of the doubt, and trying to work with them and they just kept on screwing him for it. If Biden remembers 2008-2016, (and I think he does) he'll come in fully prepared for this, and realize that THEY DO NOT GET THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT ANYMORE.

Thekaspervote

(32,754 posts)
12. So what has changed? The Dems have given them hundreds of bills and he refuses to act
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 03:56 PM
Jul 2020

It does look promising that we will hold the majority following the election.

Hoping that Amy whomps him, she’s our best chance

Response to SouthernCal_Dem (Original post)

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
20. "Given up"...? I seriously doubt it.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 04:21 PM
Jul 2020

Remember, the G.O.P. similarly "gave up" on Trump in 2016 after the "pussy-grabber" tape came out. Paul Ryan reportedly told his representatives it was all right to concentrate on their own re-election, even if it meant throwing Trump under the bus, and prominent conservatives announced they wouldn't be voting for him. Within two weeks, they all came crawling back, pledging fealty, and were among his most hard-line supporters.

I have no doubt that, should Biden win but the Republicans keep control of the Senate, we'll see the same stonewalling we saw in Obama's time in office, but I'm sure Mitchie and the gang haven't "given up" on hanging on to the presidency...and that they'll pursue any shenanigans, including contesting even clear-cut election results, if Trump calls on them to do so.

Bayard

(22,057 posts)
21. Years ago, I remember reading an article
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 04:22 PM
Jul 2020

It was in something like, "Business Insider". Said that Bush Jr. had the dates changed on economic data at the end of Clinton's term to make it look like he owned the good numbers instead. Anyone else remember that? I just did a quick google and couldn't find it.

Its what rethuglicans do. Cheat, steal, blame Dems. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
23. They can't do it if we win back the Senate, keep the House and elect Biden.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 04:28 PM
Jul 2020

The only questions are 1) whether the Dems will have the balls to change the filibuster back to what it was meant to be, and 2) whether they can work quickly to get it all done in 2 years.

They're going to have to work their asses off. If they don't we're still toast because we can't count on the midterms not screwing us over and installing a repuke senate again.

FloridaBlues

(4,007 posts)
29. Senate Dems figure out a way to use all the tools they have to pass bills when in majority
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 04:42 PM
Jul 2020

Mitch won't let anything pass as minority leader.

Wounded Bear

(58,645 posts)
41. Kill the fillibuster...without that nothing else gets done...
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 09:08 PM
Jul 2020

Mitch will ride the breaks exactly like he did in 2009-10

Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
30. I hope this article finally puts to bed the myth of bi-partisanship.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 04:45 PM
Jul 2020

The Republicans have little to no interest in actually governing, not even during a crisis. It's past time to govern without them. Stop begging them for votes and move quickly to enact the Dem agenda.

JDC

(10,125 posts)
31. If he loses majority, I cannot wait to hear his calls for "bipartisanship"
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 05:13 PM
Jul 2020

He is the worst this country has to offer

theaocp

(4,236 posts)
37. It's time to put up a fucking armada of strawmen.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 05:44 PM
Jul 2020

You don't allow Republican scum to have dignity anymore. There are no good ones. They occasionally stumble across acorns of morality/decency, but don't know how to cultivate it. You CAN'T work with them, dammit. Give them OUTLANDISH proposals and then negotiate from there. We won't, but we should.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
40. McConnell and Gaetz in my very humble opinion
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 09:05 PM
Jul 2020

are the 2 most dangerous people in the USA.

Justice Ginsburg is toughing it out because of the Senate, not because of DJT.

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