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FM123

(10,053 posts)
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 07:44 PM Jul 2020

Major USPS Changes Could Hamper Vote-By-Mail At The Worst Possible Time

(Talking Points Memo) Election officials who were already facing major challenges in making voting accessible operations during the pandemic were thrown a new curveball this week.

Mail service could be slowed down in coming months, as part of a campaign to overhaul the U.S. Postal Service launched by new agency leadership appointed by President Trump.

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In interviews with TPM, election officials, vote-by-mail experts, and mail vendors outlined ways the proposed changes negatively impact the vote-by-mail process, which is being adopted in record numbers across the country amid the COVID-19 outbreak.

They provided several scenarios in which the refusal to let USPS employees work overtime — the main driver of the changes being described — could lead to voters being disenfranchised.

“It’s really a concern. The Trump administration is looking at the Post Office as a business. It’s not a business, it’s a critical public service,” Vermont Secretary of State Jim Condos told TPM.

Making The System ‘Susceptible To Issues’

Internal documents reported by the Washington Post describe a new culture being ushered where, in an effort to cut costs, overtime work would be vehemently discouraged. This means employees should leave mail behind if continuing to process those pieces would put them behind their schedule for deliveries.

“One aspect of these changes that may be difficult for employees is that.- temporarily – we may see mail left behind or mail on the workroom floor or docks (in P&DCs), which is not typical,” one document said, which described the changes as being implemented “immediately.”

In practice, that means some mail could take an extra day or even longer to be delivered.

(Read More) https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/usps-delays-elections-vote-by-mail-worries

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Major USPS Changes Could Hamper Vote-By-Mail At The Worst Possible Time (Original Post) FM123 Jul 2020 OP
That's the point. ...nt 2naSalit Jul 2020 #1
Sounds like something that would happen in Uzbekistan idziak4ever1234 Jul 2020 #2
That would be the whole freaking point Hekate Jul 2020 #3
We just received our vote by mail forms today. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2020 #4
Damn. Hubby & i will be voting in person in Nov. even if i have to be exposed to covid then. onetexan Jul 2020 #6
Yes, there's that side of it, too. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2020 #22
Make sure you don't have to do provisional ballot! SheltieLover Jul 2020 #11
I will get our ballot and bluestarone Jul 2020 #5
Make sure that is allowed in your area SheltieLover Jul 2020 #9
It is allowed! bluestarone Jul 2020 #13
Must not be SheltieLover Jul 2020 #14
LOL well it's REPUKE but (North Dakota) bluestarone Jul 2020 #17
South is... SheltieLover Jul 2020 #19
tRUMPASS gets his way we will ALL be bluestarone Jul 2020 #23
You bet!!! SheltieLover Jul 2020 #25
See, Trump doesn't have to call off the election etc just make it harder for him to lose and if some uponit7771 Jul 2020 #7
In Oregon I always drop mine off. Let's hope that the ballots get delivered on time. CentralMass Jul 2020 #8
For anything important soryang Jul 2020 #10
Me too! SheltieLover Jul 2020 #12
moral of the story...... don't take a long time to send your ballot in Takket Jul 2020 #15
TRUE WORDS here! bluestarone Jul 2020 #18
Absolutely! SheltieLover Jul 2020 #20
see if your state can track it.......... Takket Jul 2020 #24
Good idea! SheltieLover Jul 2020 #26
That's what the changes are designed to do. n/t CousinIT Jul 2020 #16
So, don't wait until the last minute to request and submit your mail ballot, or carry Hoyt Jul 2020 #21
If drop box allowed SheltieLover Jul 2020 #27
We have been pinning our hopes on "vote by mail", so what does the turd do? not_the_one Jul 2020 #28
I got my Primary mail in ballot yesterday.. that's how we're Cha Jul 2020 #29
KICK Cha Jul 2020 #30

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
4. We just received our vote by mail forms today.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 07:51 PM
Jul 2020

I'm not sure that I want to go that route knowing what these sleazebags might try to do.

onetexan

(13,036 posts)
6. Damn. Hubby & i will be voting in person in Nov. even if i have to be exposed to covid then.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 07:55 PM
Jul 2020

I wana see this idiot kicked out of office collectively by sensible Americans.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
22. Yes, there's that side of it, too.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 08:14 PM
Jul 2020

I want to see the Trumplers standing outside holding their signs mere hours before the roof caves in on them.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
11. Make sure you don't have to do provisional ballot!
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 08:01 PM
Jul 2020

In TN, if you request mail in ballot, you may not hand deliver anywhere and if you later opt to vote in person, ballot is provisional (not likely to be counted!).

bluestarone

(16,911 posts)
5. I will get our ballot and
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 07:53 PM
Jul 2020

HAND DELIVER IT TO the court house!! I will NOT take a chance on the mail delivery!

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
9. Make sure that is allowed in your area
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 07:59 PM
Jul 2020

In TN, if you request mail ballot, you may not hand deliver ANYWHERE! 🤬

bluestarone

(16,911 posts)
17. LOL well it's REPUKE but (North Dakota)
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 08:08 PM
Jul 2020

NOT like the the Southern REPUKES states thank GOD! but (i sure wish we were DEMOCRATIC!)

bluestarone

(16,911 posts)
23. tRUMPASS gets his way we will ALL be
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 08:14 PM
Jul 2020

In the same boat!! We have to KICK HIS ASS in NOV> along with all the RETHUGS in the senate!

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
7. See, Trump doesn't have to call off the election etc just make it harder for him to lose and if some
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 07:56 PM
Jul 2020

... one took it to the USSC they USSC could take forever deciding on the case.

This is horrible

soryang

(3,299 posts)
10. For anything important
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 07:59 PM
Jul 2020

i've been using the priority mail for a few months now because the regular mail service has become unreliable. the problem is i have to go inside a small post office in the neighborhood, and people don't comply very well with the distancing and mask requirements.

Takket

(21,562 posts)
24. see if your state can track it..........
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 08:14 PM
Jul 2020

i live in michigan and sent in my primary ballot. the township has already marked it as "received" so i know they got it.

see if your state does the same........

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
26. Good idea!
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 08:18 PM
Jul 2020

But, if "lost," then likely provisional required. 🤬

I will do early voting next week for Aug primary. Never crowded.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
21. So, don't wait until the last minute to request and submit your mail ballot, or carry
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 08:12 PM
Jul 2020

to a drop box.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
28. We have been pinning our hopes on "vote by mail", so what does the turd do?
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 08:19 PM
Jul 2020

Appoint Louis DeJoy as his new USPS postmaster general "fixer", just like BarBar is his DOJ fixer. You don't think they can do it? How many times have thought THAT, only to get our face rubbed into him DOING it?

Putin has the electronic votes covered, and DeJoy has the mail-in votes covered.

We HAVE to be able to know what is happening on election day.

I say we make it a party, EVERYONE wear BLUE, PHOTO/VIDEO EVERYTHING, and if the results don't pass the smell test, hit the streets Wednesday, surrounding the White House. Initiate a national strike to bring this country to a halt.

Until then make sure the turd KNOWS he is going down. He can't handle defeat.

He is fulfilling Putin's final orders. Chaos and destruction.

If he KNOWS we won't let him steal it, he'll run, tail tucked between his legs. 'Cause the military is NOT going to support him.

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