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CousinIT

(9,239 posts)
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 12:14 AM Jul 2020

How Narcissists employ flying monkeys to do their dirty work

This could apply to an abusive partner, parent, sibling -- or Donald Trump. Definitely to Donald Trump.

https://www.escapeabuse.com/?p=452

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Below is a video by Dr. Ramani, with an excellent explanation of how narcissists employ flying monkeys (without their awareness) to do their dirty work for them. Narcissists may do this in any social circle where people may know or be familiar with both the narcissist and the target the narcissist wants his flying monkeys to destroy: a neighborhood, a church, a social club or organization, a workplace where both people work or both are known to others.

Note from the OP: the "social circle" could also be a political circle, or a country with a narcissistic politician (Trump) and his target (anyone who dares disagree with or oppose him), too.

Narcissists will do this if: they feel they are losing control of their abuse target; they fear being publicly exposed as the abusive person they really are by someone they abuse(d) and thus losing public face; in any situation where they feel the hideous contents of their puffed-up but thin outer shell may be exposed to anyone else.

. . .

He may not have even had to say anything to them. Because vicious bullies love what they do and surely remember him telling them a while back what an unsavory person this target is. And from that moment on, everything the target says or does (or writes on a mailing list) is viewed through the filter of the perception the narcissist planted in the flying monkeys’ mind.

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The purpose of a narcissist employing flying monkeys is to keep the target quiet, such that he or she is afraid to utter a peep or be heard or seen anywhere by others in the same social circles as the narcissist. And even if the target is seen or heard — the narcissist must ensure that they are perceived in the the way the narcissist wants them to be perceived by others (ie: “crazy”, “angry”, “paranoid”, an abusive person, instead of the narcissist himself). You’ll get the “paranoid” label more than the others, especially if you mention to anyone how narcissists employ flying monkeys. And, this also leaves the target of the bullying campaign isolated and with no support system – that is: controlled.

One of the comments on the video below:

“When narcissists can no longer control you they will control how others perceive you.” – that is the truth. More often than not, they’ll find a way to do both.

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How Narcissists employ flying monkeys to do their dirty work (Original Post) CousinIT Jul 2020 OP
Very good! Thanks for posting. nt Phoenix61 Jul 2020 #1
And that explains Trump's usage of the term "Mess" Wellstone ruled Jul 2020 #2
In Mary Trump's book, when she told a family male she wanted to get a degree... CousinIT Jul 2020 #4
One hell of a Wellstone ruled Jul 2020 #5
Some both control targets and others' perceptions simultaneously. nt live love laugh Jul 2020 #3
Very true, and the ONLY way to deal with a narcissist LuckyCharms Jul 2020 #6
Yep. Once that negative perception is installed in a flying monkey's mind.. CousinIT Jul 2020 #7
Not to diminish the seriousness of your post... LuckyCharms Jul 2020 #8
That's crazy. I'm glad you can laugh about it now! CousinIT Jul 2020 #9
Because I was fighting. LuckyCharms Jul 2020 #10
damn. CousinIT Jul 2020 #11
If you can walk away from that shit, walk away far. hunter Jul 2020 #12
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. And that explains Trump's usage of the term "Mess"
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 12:56 AM
Jul 2020

when talking about powerful well educated Females that do not fear him.

CousinIT

(9,239 posts)
4. In Mary Trump's book, when she told a family male she wanted to get a degree...
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:57 AM
Jul 2020

...the response was: "Well that's nasty".

I got it on Audible and am not through listening but I will be by the end of the weekend.

What we see in Trump's behavior, is exactly what he is. At the least, a malignant narcissist. At worst, a sadistic, malicious sociopath.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. One hell of a
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 12:20 PM
Jul 2020

scary environment to try and stay alive or get beat to hell and back. Narcissistic persons are as shallow as a mud puddle and their ego is easily bruised. Spend almost fifteen years around two of these types of people.

It took four or five years before I could really Trust anyone who was,as one would say,normal.

Trump will sic someone onto somebody to prove his point that,if you f--- with me,I will take you out.

Notice the Orange POS is Golfing with his fav Lady G.

LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
6. Very true, and the ONLY way to deal with a narcissist
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 12:22 PM
Jul 2020

is to go no contact. And then you still get slimed by them via their enablers.

CousinIT

(9,239 posts)
7. Yep. Once that negative perception is installed in a flying monkey's mind..
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 04:28 PM
Jul 2020

...it never leaves - the target is looked at by them (and accused/abused by them) through that filter forever. The narcissist could be long gone or not even have to say anything anymore.

Reminds me of kiddy playground where your friend gets mad at you for some reason, then gangs up on you with other kids. Happens all the time. And adults behave no differently. At least not the narcissistic ones.



LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
8. Not to diminish the seriousness of your post...
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 07:07 PM
Jul 2020

but your second paragraph has me cracking up because it reminded me of something.

I went to a public school, but as a now reformed Catholic, I had to go to religious education once a week at the church across from the elementary school. After religious class one day, I got in a fistfight with this kid, and all his friends ganged up on me. One guy had my arms pinned behind my back, and this other kid was punching me. A nun that was inside saw the fight, ran outside, punched the kid who was punching me in the head, and then punched me in the stomach while the one kid still had my arms pinned.

CousinIT

(9,239 posts)
9. That's crazy. I'm glad you can laugh about it now!
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 07:54 PM
Jul 2020

Probably wasn't too amusing at the time. The nun punched you too? WTH for? Did she ever say?

LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
10. Because I was fighting.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 07:58 PM
Jul 2020

The nuns were brutal. If you acted up in class, they would whack your knuckles with a ruler, they would slap you, etc.

We used to have to read stories sometimes in class out loud. This kid was reading a story, and he came to a sentence that read something like "Billy was being a jerk". The kid doing the reading read it innocently as "Billy was being a jerk off". He didn't mean to do it, it just came out. Nun slapped him.

hunter

(38,310 posts)
12. If you can walk away from that shit, walk away far.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 08:27 PM
Jul 2020

500 miles at least.

A mere twenty days for any healthy adult, less if you can get a ride.

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