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A tight race between veteran Congressmember Carolyn Maloney and challenger Suraj Patel has emerged as New York Citys most closely watched Congressional primary but about 20 percent of voters may end up having no say in the final outcome.
One-in-five mail-in ballots have been tossed out in New Yorks 12th Congressional District, which includes Western Queens, Northwest Brooklyn and the East Side of Manhattan, according to Board of Elections documents reported by The Intercept.
The absentee ballots are crucial in the contest, where Maloney, who has served in Congress since 1993, led Patel by 648 votes after the machine tally following the June 23 Democratic primary. Roughly 65,000 NY-12 voters cast their ballots by mail, The New York Times reported.
Maloney received 41.7 percent of the in-person votes compared to Patels 40.1 percent. Two other candidates, Lauren Ashcraft and Pete Harrison, received about 18 percent of the overall vote total. In Queens, Patel received 540 more votes than Maloney.
On Thursday, the four candidates called on the BOE to count every absentee ballot that was invalidated because the U.S. Postal Service did not postmark the envelope or because the BOE received the ballots after June 30.
https://queenseagle.com/all/2020/7/17/thousands-of-absentee-ballots-tossed-in-tight-maloney-patel-house-race
jorgevlorgan
(8,291 posts)Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)It is a shame.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)If non postmark or late arriving ballots are counted, soon, there is going to be fraud and bad operators recognize that they can see how a race is going on election night, then flood in ballots that get counted.
People KNOW who the candidates are and what local issues are that need to be voted on, WHY WAIT TO GET THE BALLOT FILLED OUT AND RETURNED?
madville
(7,410 posts)The rules exist as safeguards, thats all we need is bags of unpostmarked ballots magically appearing days after an election officially closes.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Officials should not open that gate. The correct thing is being done in not counting the ballots. People should have gotten off their asses and got the ballots in early.
oasis
(49,380 posts)No postmarks to invalidate ballots.
Cha
(297,187 posts)the individual Post Offices have the same Standards they've always had?
How can that stooge pmg be everywhere?
oasis
(49,380 posts)the new PMG is in a postion to throw a monkey wrench into the timely way mail gets processed. This NY screwup could be a trial run.
Cha
(297,187 posts)4 years of this Fascist Asshole selling out America.. We can't and Won't take anymore.
I know I'm not alone in the way I feel.
oasis
(49,380 posts)overcome whatever these nitwits are attempting to cook up. Please don't despair, we'll get through this.
Cha
(297,187 posts)out of it fast.
I hop onto any positive news I can.
Mahalo, oasis!!
I dare anyone to say the Dems and repubs are the same.. not even on the same Planet!
Cha
(297,187 posts)postage to return by August 8, 2020.
I got a campaign brochure from Kai Kahehe, too.. I put it up on my kitchen wall!
I don't understand why the PO in New York wouldn't postmark the ballots? It makes no sense.
oasis
(49,380 posts)Cha
(297,187 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,080 posts)It's as much a plot to destroy the USPS, and to hurt Jeff Bezos/Amazon, as it is to fuck with mail-in ballots. Lots of mail is already coming late. The situation already really bad everywhere.
oasis
(49,380 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,080 posts)They've been trying to destroy/privatize the USPS for well over a decade. The election tampering is an opportunity to throw that into overdrive.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I just dont trust the mail-in ballot process in THIS state enough to rely on it in a critical election. People in blue states, please dont wax on about how great mail-in voting is, you dont live in Florida.
Vinca
(50,269 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)This election is TOO important for me to be standing in a long line on Election Day or be hoping that my mail-in ballot got counted. In person, I SEE my votes getting counted.
TheBlackAdder
(28,189 posts).
There really is no excuse to mail in a ballot too late, especially knowing all the tricks being played.
However, the individual states and county clerks control what they do and how they treat a mail-in.
If a ballot is mailed in early, in my NJ county, there is time to be notified if all is OK and handle it.
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roamer65
(36,745 posts)No way will I actually mail it.
Polybius
(15,390 posts)On the tossed ballots, who did they favor?
NotASurfer
(2,149 posts)DUers have mentioned their local rules allow the ballots to be dropped into a ballot box at county offices. Those presumably would be in sealed envelopes, no postmark.
If and only if some shenanigans like that are going on would I think those ballots should be looked at. Meanwhile, mental note to get that ballot in early, and it might be worth masking up and asking to have the envelope postmarked by hand