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raccoon

(31,110 posts)
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 08:57 AM Jul 2020

About telling people you're Canadian when you're abroad,

But you’re really American.

I don’t know if I could get away with it. I have a distinctive southern accent. When I was in ME A few years ago, as soon as I said anything people were asking me where I was from.

I suppose I might say I’m from Southern Canada.

Seriously I wonder if somebody whose first language isn’t English and hadn’t been around English speaking people a lot could tell the difference in American regional accents.

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About telling people you're Canadian when you're abroad, (Original Post) raccoon Jul 2020 OP
I'm from Florida iwillalwayswonderwhy Jul 2020 #1
My husband is Canadian (Albertan) and I'm U.S. Croney Jul 2020 #2
With a Southern accent Dreampuff Jul 2020 #3
In eastern Canada but in the west, the Canadians sound just like Montanans OregonBlue Jul 2020 #18
We did that on a river cruise in 2016. lark Jul 2020 #4
I was asked recently if I was Canadian. a la izquierda Jul 2020 #5
Who is going to let us abroad? LisaL Jul 2020 #6
exactly. Travel bans may last a year or more beachbumbob Jul 2020 #7
Some of us do live abroad. I have no problem saying that I'm American, but GoneOffShore Jul 2020 #9
Thank you. Tipperary Jul 2020 #25
Good point. Nt raccoon Jul 2020 #15
Isn't it unfair to Canadians? We own our mess. dem4decades Jul 2020 #8
I don't feel as if I own him. lark Jul 2020 #10
I worked overseas for years in mostly so-called 3rd world countries and the ME. hlthe2b Jul 2020 #11
Sounds awfully sexist. n/t sl8 Jul 2020 #12
In what way? BannonsLiver Jul 2020 #24
Because "when you're abroad" sounds like "when you're a broad". sl8 Jul 2020 #30
I don't mind. I even say I'm from Dallas DFW Jul 2020 #13
Havent travelled abroad for a while, but generally if I make it clear from the get-go that Kashkakat v.2.0 Jul 2020 #14
Accent tip for trying to sound Canadian.... haele Jul 2020 #16
Wow, that was educational. I never realized that accents came from how one positions Blue_true Jul 2020 #20
American television allows folks from all over the world to get to know our accents. HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #17
True. roamer65 Jul 2020 #29
Just say you are from western Ontario Canada. nt Blue_true Jul 2020 #19
Never had a problem cagefreesoylentgreen Jul 2020 #21
I am half Canadian. LakeArenal Jul 2020 #22
Is someone asked me if I was Canadian, I think I'd say "I wish!" nt eppur_se_muova Jul 2020 #23
Got aWay with it over and over again during the bush years. BannonsLiver Jul 2020 #26
I've actually been asked if I'm Canadian. roamer65 Jul 2020 #27
Likewise, as someone who grew up in Minnesota Salviati Jul 2020 #32
You probably sound a lot like a Yooper. roamer65 Jul 2020 #34
I was in France in 2004 doubleplusgood Jul 2020 #28
Tell them you are from the Boundary Waters area of MINN-EH-SO-TA.. Peacetrain Jul 2020 #31
UNLESS I was in danger of getting abducted or my head cut off, Im not Kashkakat v.2.0 Jul 2020 #33

iwillalwayswonderwhy

(2,602 posts)
1. I'm from Florida
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:00 AM
Jul 2020

But I’ve been married to a Brit for 25 years. It screwed up my accent. We live in England now and most people I meet think I’m from Canada. I like it.

Croney

(4,659 posts)
2. My husband is Canadian (Albertan) and I'm U.S.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:01 AM
Jul 2020

We always say we're Canadian when we travel (not that it comes up much). It just seems like the more comfortable thing to do.

Dreampuff

(778 posts)
3. With a Southern accent
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:11 AM
Jul 2020

You would have to find a way to change it or say you grew up there as a child and married a Canadian and now have citizenship there. I don't know the reception you would get since you were originally American.

You would have to be sure to be cautious with words like " house or out" since they are pronounced quite differently in Canada and parts of the North Central U.S. just my opinion, but I don't think you could pull it off.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
18. In eastern Canada but in the west, the Canadians sound just like Montanans
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 10:32 AM
Jul 2020

Washingtonians, Oregonians......

lark

(23,097 posts)
4. We did that on a river cruise in 2016.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:13 AM
Jul 2020

We got some nasty pushback the first day from some Australian asses that said since we were American we were pro-Trump because they read that in their newspaper - the Sun. They were such asses we left dinner early because I was about to start screaming at them. So, to avoid future nastiness, we just started saying we were from Canada. We made friends with 2 older Canadian women and they shared in the ruse with us. They were very cool & a lot of fun. Now Europe won't even let Americans come there and I don't blame them one bit.

Oh, lots of people in Europe can't tell the differences between accents and would ask if we were Australian, Canadian or American.

a la izquierda

(11,794 posts)
5. I was asked recently if I was Canadian.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:18 AM
Jul 2020

I was in England and I have a pretty neutral accent despite growing up near NYC with two parents who have very heavy Staten Island and Bronx accents.

The lads thought I sounded Canadian, but I was honest and said I’m from the NYC area. I never admit I currently live in WV.

GoneOffShore

(17,339 posts)
9. Some of us do live abroad. I have no problem saying that I'm American, but
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:21 AM
Jul 2020

I don't make a big deal about it.

Apart from saying that I didn't vote for him.

lark

(23,097 posts)
10. I don't feel as if I own him.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:29 AM
Jul 2020

Not one bit. I did everything possible to help him lose, talked to all my friends, wrote letters, signed petitions, volunteered with the FL Democrat party for phone banking and door to door GOTV efforts. The people that own him are the 30 - 35% I've always disliked or even hated, the rednecks, the criminals, the grifters, the haters, the racists, the anti-science idiots, the ignorant and stupid folks.

hlthe2b

(102,239 posts)
11. I worked overseas for years in mostly so-called 3rd world countries and the ME.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:31 AM
Jul 2020

I NEVER said I was Canadian. I was always assumed to be, apparently because I interacted without hesitation with locals and "average people" rather than hanging out with Americans or other ex-Pats. That that alone was enough to cause many to draw the conclusion that I couldn't possibly be American, but must be Canadian, says a lot about our reputation overseas--even decades ago.

sl8

(13,755 posts)
30. Because "when you're abroad" sounds like "when you're a broad".
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 12:05 PM
Jul 2020

Just a (very) small play on words.

DFW

(54,370 posts)
13. I don't mind. I even say I'm from Dallas
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:42 AM
Jul 2020

More than 90% of my time abroad, which is most of the year, I’m in a country whose language I speak well, so when they learn I’m American, they know I’m not a typical one.

About 15 years ago, I was at a fruit stand in Paris run by Arabs. I asked the guy checking me out to give me a good bag, as I was taking the apricots back to Germany. “Ah, you are from Germany.” I explained that no, I just lived there. This whole conversation was all in French, of course. I then said I was from Texas, USA. He frowned.

“Texas. Bush is from Texas. I am from Iraq,” he said. I said, “Yes, Bush is from Texas, but please don’t think that we all support his invasion of your country. Millions of us are opposed to it, and I am one of them. I am deeply sorry for what my country has done to yours.”

Maybe he had only been listening to an Arab version of Fox “News,” but he was shocked and said he had no idea that there was any kind of serious domestic opposition to Cheney’s Iraq invasion. He thanked me profusely for the news, and came out from behind the counter to shake my hand. That was one Iraqi who, from then on, anyway, would no longer automatically hate us for merely being American. OK, I’m just one jerk from Texas, but if a few million of us spread the word in the same manner, then the world slowly gets the idea that we are not all in step with the boorish clowns that sometimes end up in power. After Saddam, it’s a concept any Iraqi understands. They just need an American to explain it to them one on one.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
14. Havent travelled abroad for a while, but generally if I make it clear from the get-go that
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:54 AM
Jul 2020

I despise and am working against the fascistic elements in my country, people are generally good with that.

I do recall one drunken scots man who blamed me personally for the Vietnam war and wouldnt let up, but that was one out of many hundreds of other encounters.

In general just be low key and ask a lot of questions and be genuinely interested in the country and the people you meet - and above all do NOT dominate the conversation and brag about yourself and all the places youve been (like the stereotype loudmouth American) and youll be OK. Ill never forget "going native" for a few months in Europe, with very little contact with Americans and then horrified to come back here and it was like almost every sentence out of my fellow American's mouths began with "I."

Typical American tourist:: I went here and did this, and bought this, and arent I just the greatest person who ever walked the earth.

THATS what people dont like, not the fact that you came from here.



haele

(12,650 posts)
16. Accent tip for trying to sound Canadian....
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 10:17 AM
Jul 2020

Most Canadians hold their jaw a bit more forward when pronouncing their R's. Most Americans, especially Southern and Midwestern, sound their rs wide in the back of their mouths, which makes the generic rural American accent a bit more difficult for European actors and vice versa.

Haele

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
20. Wow, that was educational. I never realized that accents came from how one positions
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 11:05 AM
Jul 2020

the jawbones. I always thought it was only and totally how people used their tongue and pacing of letters spoken. But your analysis makes a lot of sense.

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
17. American television allows folks from all over the world to get to know our accents.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 10:24 AM
Jul 2020

And a Southern one is about the most distinctive (and in my opinion prettiest) accent that we have - although in popular culture it feels like the New York accent is the most recognizable as American.

21. Never had a problem
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 11:17 AM
Jul 2020

But I’m not white. Last time I was in Los Cabos, some of the locals spontaneously greeted me in Mandarin and I just kept it going.

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
22. I am half Canadian.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 11:32 AM
Jul 2020

But I don’t mind telling people I’m from US.

Others hate our government not “We the People”... Unless you are an ugly one.

The pushback here in Costa Rica calling ourselves Americans. America comprises two continents and Many countries.

Costa Rica is in North America. Making Costa Ricans just as American as the US

BannonsLiver

(16,370 posts)
26. Got aWay with it over and over again during the bush years.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 11:40 AM
Jul 2020

I worked hard to eliminate my regional diction.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
27. I've actually been asked if I'm Canadian.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 11:42 AM
Jul 2020

Live only about 30 miles from the border. I sound very similar to someone from Ontario.

I speak lower peninsula Michigander.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
32. Likewise, as someone who grew up in Minnesota
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 12:15 PM
Jul 2020

I usually get asked by students at least once a year. Once I was asked by an actual Canadian.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
34. You probably sound a lot like a Yooper.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:03 AM
Jul 2020

Someone from the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. It can be hard to tell the difference between a Yooper and a Minnesotan.

doubleplusgood

(944 posts)
28. I was in France in 2004
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 11:45 AM
Jul 2020

I learned one French phrase while I was on vacation in France in 2004: Je suis Canadien.

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
31. Tell them you are from the Boundary Waters area of MINN-EH-SO-TA..
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 12:09 PM
Jul 2020

just like that and you will not have a issue..

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
33. UNLESS I was in danger of getting abducted or my head cut off, Im not
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 05:48 PM
Jul 2020

not understanding why anyone would lie about having come from the US?

Wouldnt that pretty much get in the way of having a real, genuine conversation and possibly a friendship developing? Someone invites you for dinner and youre going to keep up the charade for 3 or 4 hours? Better hope you know a LOT about Canada!

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