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[HotTeaBag]

1. I would very much like to take the cognitive test that Trump didn't take.

I'm curious.

[gordianot]

20. There are two in depth cognitive batteries.

The Stanford Binet and Wechsler both are old but have been revised many times with new norms and new questions. No test is an absolute but information about your cognitive functioning is covered in the subtests. If I were Donald Trump I would not come anywhere near either test. I am not familiar with what he was given but drawing a clock has been used as a numerological indicator for years. I would worry if my Physician asked me to draw a clock not the task but what the Physician suspects.

[TheBlackAdder]

32. Now I really want to know what the last 5 questions are in that test--if Trump finds them hard.

[TreasonousBastard]

2. Whatever it is, a third of the country doesn't see it as a problem. And that is the problem.

[George II]

17. That's the third of the country that couldn't pass the test.

[sheshe2]

3. Oooh boy...

[sunonmars]

7. its mental

[sheshe2]

8. IKR?

[PCIntern]

4. I took the exact test a couple months ago

I bet I know what question he’s referring to: they tell you five words in the beginning of the test and tell you they are going to ask you those words later. I bet he blanked. Totally.

[TheBlackAdder]

35. What motivated the test? A mini-stroke, mental collapse, catatonic state, senility?

.

What was going on with him, news reports and events right before this unscheduled trip to the hospital?

.

[PCIntern]

37. Symptoms and to rule out a problem.

[agingdem]

5. My 95 year old mother passed a cognitive test

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and she has Alzheimers...she can draw a clock, point to the elephant, knows her colors, can recite the alphabet, count to 100 in two languages... my mother has almost no short term memory but she can remember the "train ride" (her words) to Auschwitz, the loss of her entire family, and every nightmare moment of that existence...so Donald can pass a "very hard cognitive test"...so can my mother and my 3 year old grandson...

[Ms. Toad]

28. Yup. My spouse with a diagnosis of a cognitive impairment

passes it every 6 months. She is on 2 Alzheimer's medications.

It is a gross screening tool - to catch people who are really, really impaired.

[agingdem]

29. and it's not pass/fail

it's degrees of cognitive decline...

[Ms. Toad]

30. It's not a refined enough test to sort out degrees of cognitive decline.

So it really is pass/fail

26, and above is considered normal. 25 or below is considered a flag for further tests that can assess degrees (and nature) of cognitive impairment.

It was that more refined tests (many hours of testing) that generated a diagnosis for my spouse. (Specifically impaired executive reasoning; no diagnosis as to memory- specifically -but it was fascinating to see played out in the test the exact things that triggered me to pressure her to take get tested)

[agingdem]

33. you're right...sort of

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my mother has been subjected to so many tests over the the years I tend to conflate them but I still think the measure of cognitive awareness is a sliding scale...my mother "passes" every cognitive test with flying colors..yet she can't remember her name or mine and cries for her mother every night...

[ck4829]

6. I passed that test on opioids, I passed that test after 2 days of sleep deprivation

Experimental psychology is fun and revealing.

[SoonerPride]

9. It is actually terrifying that this mentally defective idiot is president

I mean this is the kind of dotard that is in charge?

This is not normal

[Buns_of_Fire]

10. The doctor even said his cognites were the very best EVER.

Rump: Okay... 100... 7!

Doctor: Well, that's better than you did last time.

[BlueIdaho]

11. Is there any independent verification he even took a test?

Or passed a test. Because frankly, I don’t believe a single word he says.

[chriscan64]

12. He doesn't get so many things... add this to the pile.

He really thinks that this test is to prove genius, when it is really just to see if you need immediate intervention. It is akin to pulling down your underwear and not finding a turd there. When normal people tell other normal people that they took this test, the response is "Are you okay?", not "Are you a genius?".

Bragging about passing it is in my opinion grounds for more testing.

[iluvtennis]

15. Well said. nt

[LizBeth]

21. He had to pay people to take his tests. He passes so few. To pass a test is a huge victory for him.

It doesn't matter that it is easy. simply getting a pass was a first.

[Hortensis]

36. Absolutely. Indicative of cognitive deficiency glaring to anyone,

even if most of us would need professionals to explain just what was going on.

When Trump was running, a main professional association decreed this could not be ethically discussed by anyone who hadn't performed an in-person evaluation (typically @45 minutes with someone who's often a total stranger trying to shine them on). Over 30 years of film of the subject, audio, written interviews, "autobiographies," thousands of court records, etc., no substitute.

At that time a professional wrote an opinion piece for the NYT or WaPo explaining that it really didn't matter because anyone who'd gone to kindergarten would be sufficiently equipped to evaluate. Wink-wink, so to speak. What kids learn about what's normal and not in kindergarten hit again and again. Get it? Get it?

[RockCreek]

13. The mini mental status exam

Is the most likely screening test he would have been given. If you google it, there are multiple pdfs for download, including how to score. It is hard to imagine him being able to do the last few assessments.

[niyad]

14. Five words, in order, for iq45* to remember: "drop dead, you f'n traitor".

[Delphinus]

23. Love it!

[KS Toronado]

16. "I'll bet you couldn't even answer the last 5 questions".... statement

to Wallace was nothing more than a grade school kid putting his thumbs in his ears & tongue out yelling
"I'm smarter than you". Truth be known trumpig brought that subject up because he couldn't answer
any of the five. He always projects his shortcomings on to others.

[rownesheck]

18. Why is it that

a fox news host has the guts to conduct this kind of interview in which he calls out that dumbass over his idiotic remarks, yet normal media people are too scared? Does he only do interviews with fox people? I don't watch any of these news programs.

[Wednesdays]

22. tRump does interviews with other news channels

But it's always in a very controlled environment. There's a list of prescribed topics and questions that are pre-approved by tRump's handlers.

If the interviewer starts to stray from the list, the aides can--and often do--order the cameras cut off, and the interview is killed on the spot.

[qazplm135]

24. Too many media folks are soooooo scared

of being called liberal. Wallace is not remotely scared of that.

[PubliusEnigma]

19. Trump thinks the Brain Damage test was an IQ test.

[Demovictory9]

25. video

Link to tweet

[Hortensis]

38. Even self delusion this profound isn't insanity if,

I guess, the subject could recognize reality when required. But in other real ways it sure acts like it. Think what it means for a person to believe only the most brilliant people -- like him -- could count backwards by 7s. And that he was among the very few even if he couldn't do it.

"If banana is to orange equals fruit, then what does train is to bicycle equal? a) transportation. b) road."

Uh,...

[Blue Owl]

26. Good job, little Donny... GOOD JOB!

[smirkymonkey]

27. What's so hilarious is that he is so proud of himself for passing a very basic

cognitive test and even thought the last 5 questions were "very hard". He's patting himself on the back because he really believes it was "Super Genius Stuff".

[CatWoman]

31. ....

[smirkymonkey]

34. *snicker*

[BobTheSubgenius]

39. "I can recognize an elephant and drink from a sippy cup."

Stable genius!