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Yavin4

(35,423 posts)
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 11:42 AM Jul 2020

OMG!!!!

Excerpt from Chris Wallace's interview with Trump:

WALLACE: But, sir, we have the seventh highest mortality rate in the world. Our mortality rate is higher than Brazil, it's higher than Russia and the European Union has us on a travel ban.

TRUMP: Yeah. I think what we'll do -- well, we have them under travel ban too, Chris. I closed them off. If you remember, I was the one that did the European Union very early.

But when you talk about mortality rates, I think it's the opposite. I think we have one of the lowest mortality rates in the world.

WALLACE: That’s not true, sir. We, we, we have a -- we had 900 deaths on a single day...

TRUMP: We will take a look...

WALLACE: ... just this week...

TRUMP: Ready?

WALLACE: You, you can check it out.

TRUMP: Can you please get me the mortality rate?

TRUMP: Kayleigh's right here. I heard we have one of the lowest, maybe the lowest mortality rate anywhere in the world.

TRUMP: Do you have the numbers, please? Because I heard we had the best mortality rate.

TRUMP: Number, number one low mortality rate.

TRUMP: I hope you show the scenario because it shows what fake news is all about. Ok, go ahead.

WALLACE: OK, OK. I don’t think I’m fake news but I will -- we’ll put --

TRUMP: Yeah, you will --

WALLACE: -- put our stats on --

TRUMP: You said we had the worst mortality rate in the world --

WALLACE: I said you had --

TRUMP: -- and we have the best.
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OMG!!!! (Original Post) Yavin4 Jul 2020 OP
And THIS is the very reason why there should be NO Presidential Debates. Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #1
I'm thinking we should so the nation can see that his brain is gone. brush Jul 2020 #5
nope. he is a menace. to debate him is to give him legitimacy he doesn't deserve SiliconValley_Dem Jul 2020 #8
The nation needs to see that. Hiding it would be irresponsible IMO. brush Jul 2020 #17
he talked nonsense in the 2016 debates...didn't matter. He gets enough racists to the polls in the Demovictory9 Jul 2020 #10
He has bouts of incoherence and word salad now much worse than 2016. brush Jul 2020 #20
Exactly. Vdizzle Jul 2020 #38
I highly doubt traitor trump will show up to a debate. He will make lame excuses,just like his taxes amuse bouche Jul 2020 #30
If he comes up with an excuse not to debate that will not go in his favor. brush Jul 2020 #34
Real-time, on-screen fact-checking jayschool2013 Jul 2020 #50
Do you really think that is going to happen? Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #53
Of course not jayschool2013 Jul 2020 #54
absolutely Dukkha Jul 2020 #51
Look how Trump words this response: Mike 03 Jul 2020 #2
It's a deliberate attempt at seizure of control in the interview lunatica Jul 2020 #36
Exactly. Just like FoxNews personalities introduce nonsense with "Many people are saying..." Midnight Writer Jul 2020 #46
Everything he says is blatant BS. Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2020 #55
... jcgoldie Jul 2020 #3
Notice how binary he is. He says "best rate", Wallace says "7th worst", tRump says "you said worst" Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #19
I had him pegged as someone who's development was arrested at 10 years old. Mr.Bill Jul 2020 #37
+1 llmart Jul 2020 #47
This is interesting, I had not even consider. But, that is not an hugely bad number. There are other LizBeth Jul 2020 #4
Is that you Mossfern Jul 2020 #14
Is that you LizBeth Jul 2020 #16
Not being snarky at all. Mossfern Jul 2020 #22
I thought our mortality rates were higher and was surprised other European countries were worse. LizBeth Jul 2020 #28
Lol that is hilarious ChubbyStar Jul 2020 #57
You did not get it wrong. ChubbyStar Jul 2020 #56
Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2020 #6
What does "Kayleigh's right here" mean? Is Trump saying that she is a guarantee that the US figure muriel_volestrangler Jul 2020 #7
Lord knows! MoonRiver Jul 2020 #11
She was standing by to give him propaganda props Arazi Jul 2020 #12
A chart with a few sharpie marks on it, no doubt (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jul 2020 #26
She has a file filled with 'facts' at her disposal. babylonsister Jul 2020 #13
A binder full of fakeness. ...nt 2naSalit Jul 2020 #15
An alternate reality binder. MontanaMama Jul 2020 #29
Wait... 2naSalit Jul 2020 #33
He's hedging his bets. lunatica Jul 2020 #39
If she is his current brain and memory, Mr.Bill Jul 2020 #41
reading that made my head hurt Demovictory9 Jul 2020 #9
Damn! This scares me to no end. LuckyCharms Jul 2020 #18
The president decides what reality is. dalton99a Jul 2020 #21
def reminds of the old adage about wrestling a pig... bringthePaine Jul 2020 #23
And to think we thought GWB was the worst. progressoid Jul 2020 #24
evil demented POS has to go LymphocyteLover Jul 2020 #25
One fat dumb a$$ being fed "fake fact" by one lying dumb bi**h and sycophant. usaf-vet Jul 2020 #27
Drump creates the fake news bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #31
He sure has. lunatica Jul 2020 #40
i woke up and checked out the local fox station orleans Jul 2020 #32
This is probably the last time Chris Wallace will have interviewing Trump dustyscamp Jul 2020 #35
What is the point of interviewing him or confronting him on anything when he just blatantly lies smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #42
the best mortality rate in the world (meaning #1? lol) AlexSFCA Jul 2020 #43
Sometimes amid the ocean of lies, the TRUTH surfaces... Lock him up. Jul 2020 #48
"MAGA." fierywoman Jul 2020 #49
How do you spell STOOPID.......nt iluvtennis Jul 2020 #44
How can almost 40% of the population want a leader that lies to them? LiberalLovinLug Jul 2020 #45
According to this data source, we're No. 9 re mortality rate. KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2020 #52

brush

(53,743 posts)
5. I'm thinking we should so the nation can see that his brain is gone.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 12:27 PM
Jul 2020

He's insane. His grasp on reality is not there.

Demovictory9

(32,423 posts)
10. he talked nonsense in the 2016 debates...didn't matter. He gets enough racists to the polls in the
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 12:37 PM
Jul 2020

right states... he wins again.

brush

(53,743 posts)
20. He has bouts of incoherence and word salad now much worse than 2016.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 12:50 PM
Jul 2020

The nation needs to see that.

amuse bouche

(3,657 posts)
30. I highly doubt traitor trump will show up to a debate. He will make lame excuses,just like his taxes
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:19 PM
Jul 2020

Unless he can install a sycophant as moderator, there is no way

brush

(53,743 posts)
34. If he comes up with an excuse not to debate that will not go in his favor.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:24 PM
Jul 2020

As far a a sycophant moderator, there are more than one moderator. And who with a mind on their career and reputation, is going to sit there and throw soft ball questions to him?

jayschool2013

(2,311 posts)
50. Real-time, on-screen fact-checking
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 02:41 PM
Jul 2020

by Politifact or FactCheck.org. And if they find a lie, not only is it scrolled on the bottom, the moderator has to interrupt the current speaker to point out the lie.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,104 posts)
53. Do you really think that is going to happen?
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 04:26 PM
Jul 2020

I would bet you $1000 that I do not have to lose that it will NEVER happen.

Dukkha

(7,341 posts)
51. absolutely
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 02:44 PM
Jul 2020

Insanity is repeating the same tasks and expecting different results. He'll just throw toddler tantrums and scream 'Wrong! Fake News! Everything's the best the greatest most beautiful! The best words!"

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
2. Look how Trump words this response:
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 11:51 AM
Jul 2020
I heard we have one of the lowest, maybe the lowest mortality rate anywhere in the world.


He's the president, and he says I heard we have instead of having a command of the facts. President Obama wouldn't be caught dead saying I heard (from someone else) some vitally important fact about an event he had responsibility over.

It also just adds to the growing body of evidence that he relies on people to tell him things, and that those people are afraid to tell him the truth about anything.

What a mess we are in, folks.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
36. It's a deliberate attempt at seizure of control in the interview
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:31 PM
Jul 2020

He says, “I heard that such and such...” all the time. He uses that phrase as a passive aggressive ploy to deflect any blame or inaccuracy away from himself and onto some faceless amorphous entity. The famous, “they say...” argument that he uses all the time. It’s “Them”.

Variations on this theme are when he says, “I’ve been told...” or “Everyone is saying...”

If someone comes back at him and asks, “Who says?” His answer is a vague, “Lots of people, everybody.”

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
55. Everything he says is blatant BS.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:44 PM
Jul 2020

It is so disturbing that approximately 40% of US citizens are idiotic enough to be able to watch him and listen to his clueless babbling and not see him for the moronic imbecile he is.

The complete lack of reasoning ability is mortifying. I have never been more despondent about anything in my life.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,966 posts)
19. Notice how binary he is. He says "best rate", Wallace says "7th worst", tRump says "you said worst"
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 12:50 PM
Jul 2020

On tape.

Such all-or-nothing thinking is typical of very young children. tRump has either regressed back or has never progressed from childish thinking.

Mr.Bill

(24,253 posts)
37. I had him pegged as someone who's development was arrested at 10 years old.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:32 PM
Jul 2020

Last edited Sun Jul 19, 2020, 02:56 PM - Edit history (1)

Mary Trump says I am wrong. She puts it at three years old. Damn.

llmart

(15,534 posts)
47. +1
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 02:27 PM
Jul 2020

I thought it was arrested development around 10 years old also. Maybe I was being a bit too generous.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
4. This is interesting, I had not even consider. But, that is not an hugely bad number. There are other
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 12:23 PM
Jul 2020

European countries worse. But then I was thinking if they tested more, they would come up with more covid cases, and then that number would be lower. But then thinking more, we do not include the exaggerated at home deaths and pneumonia deaths this year comparative to history so include those numbers and it would go back up. I concluded. .... Probably balances out.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
28. I thought our mortality rates were higher and was surprised other European countries were worse.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:06 PM
Jul 2020

I do not trust U.S. numbers. That had me considering that with more test in the U.S. compared to Germany that test many, or S Korea, U.S. would find many more cases of covid bringing that mortality number even lower.

Then I considered the number of exaggerated deaths in 2020 for at home deaths and pneumonia deaths that are clearly covid, not in the mortality count would then bring the number back up.

Then I concluded that would probably balance the number to about where the mortality number truly is at.

I was simply thinking this thru because I thought we had a higher mortality rate than what we have.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
7. What does "Kayleigh's right here" mean? Is Trump saying that she is a guarantee that the US figure
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 12:33 PM
Jul 2020

is a low one? Or is he saying that he is blaming her for his claim?

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
12. She was standing by to give him propaganda props
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 12:39 PM
Jul 2020

She walked over during the interview and gave him a sheet with a chart on it

babylonsister

(171,036 posts)
13. She has a file filled with 'facts' at her disposal.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 12:40 PM
Jul 2020

Also, I heard/read the wh staff are telling him whatever he wants to hear, facts be damned, so perhaps she told him this?

2naSalit

(86,351 posts)
33. Wait...
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:22 PM
Jul 2020

I'm sure she's been coached by KellyAnn so I think it's probably a binder full of alternative facts!

bringthePaine

(1,727 posts)
23. def reminds of the old adage about wrestling a pig...
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:01 PM
Jul 2020

deny D'umbp his venue; take questions via properly distanced sources from separate locations -
still a real-time concourse

usaf-vet

(6,165 posts)
27. One fat dumb a$$ being fed "fake fact" by one lying dumb bi**h and sycophant.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:05 PM
Jul 2020

Sadly to an audience of cool aide drinking fools in funny red hats. That what America now calls great TV.

Please do not give the fat dumb a$$ any free air time so he can continue to spew his delusional bulls**t!

bucolic_frolic

(43,064 posts)
31. Drump creates the fake news
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:21 PM
Jul 2020

Just like in Portland. Look ... the federal forces are unidentified, they won't say who the detainees are ... anyone would ask if the whole thing is cooked up ...it's fake news, isn't it? isn't the con man's government lying to us? Until this is ALL out in the open, it's a total fabrication. He is gaslighting the country so he can control the narrative and say the election is crooked. He's told us this all along ... for more than 4 years.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
40. He sure has.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:38 PM
Jul 2020

Anyone still falling for the notion that his default knee jerk reactions entail anything other than telling lies is still his mark.

orleans

(34,042 posts)
32. i woke up and checked out the local fox station
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:22 PM
Jul 2020

and saw this interview--and watched the entire thing like -- omg--
here's a link to the transcript fox has up if anyone wants to read it

i couldn't turn away.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/transcript-fox-news-sunday-interview-with-president-trump

dustyscamp

(2,223 posts)
35. This is probably the last time Chris Wallace will have interviewing Trump
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:28 PM
Jul 2020

And he is probably feeling relieved about that

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
42. What is the point of interviewing him or confronting him on anything when he just blatantly lies
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:43 PM
Jul 2020

like this ALL THE TIME! He is never truthful about anything. I think they should stop covering him completely. Just don't give him any publicity at all.

Lock him up.

(6,921 posts)
48. Sometimes amid the ocean of lies, the TRUTH surfaces...
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 02:31 PM
Jul 2020

Not for long...

The mortality rate is important, but the overwhelming of ICUs is critical!

Nobody (in the Press) cares about that?

BRING JUSTICE BACK AGAIN
RICO TRUMPS & ACCOMPLICES (Rs)

LiberalLovinLug

(14,165 posts)
45. How can almost 40% of the population want a leader that lies to them?
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 02:07 PM
Jul 2020

Even if they convince themselves he's lying to be "positive" and "optimistic"?

I don't get it..

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
52. According to this data source, we're No. 9 re mortality rate.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:10 PM
Jul 2020
Link: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/total-covid-deaths-per-million?tab=table

Note: Click on top of the column labeled "July 18, 2020" twice to force the list to order from worst to best.

Total confirmed deaths due to COVID-19 per million people

Country................Deaths per million
San Marino...................1,237.55
Belgium.........................845.59
Andorra.........................673.01
United Kingdom...............666.31
Italy.............................579.34
Sweden.........................556.38
France..........................461.93
Chile.............................436.64
United States..............420.74
Peru.............................388.18
Brazil............................366.25
Netherlands...................357.69
Ireland..........................354.81

........(continued, it forms a very long list)


Of course, this is all based on us believing the accuracy of basic data assembled using highly inconsistent methods and with extremes in degree of honesty in reporting via political entities. For example, I wouldn't trust Russia's number (84 deaths/million) as far as I could throw Putin with one hand.

Regardless, this is nothing for Trump to be bragging about and in fact is shameful for one of the most advanced nations in the world.

KY

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