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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,706 posts)
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:11 PM Jul 2020

Dr Birx told Trump in April that the coronavirus would soon be gone

and influenced the administration's push to reopen the economy and lift lockdown

Dr Deborah Birx, the chief medical officer on the White House coronavirus task force, told the Trump administration in April that it was not a long term problem for the U, reported The New York Times.

Birx claimed that the virus in the US would follow the same trajectory as it did in Italy, with a sharp spike in infections followed by a gradual decline in infections.

The optimistic picture provided by Birx was reportedly welcomed by Trump administration officials, as the president pushed for states to lift lockdown and measures and for the economy to gear up ahead of November's presidential election.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/dr-birx-told-president-trump-115553164.html

And there were others who disagreed. Trump chose to listen to Birx.
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Dr Birx told Trump in April that the coronavirus would soon be gone (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2020 OP
Her opinions are becoming meaningless as she tries to suckup to Trump Historic NY Jul 2020 #1
I think this is probably spot on Docreed2003 Jul 2020 #2
+1, I'd like to here her back this claim up cause Red Don would throw people under the bus & expect uponit7771 Jul 2020 #5
Dr Brix and Dr Nick Disaffected Jul 2020 #3
This Dr. Nick? SergeStorms Jul 2020 #43
The very one. nt Disaffected Jul 2020 #45
I don't believe this, I'd like to hear that backed up by her own words. They could be trying to ... uponit7771 Jul 2020 #4
You could read the NYT article confirming this from yesterday. niyad Jul 2020 #11
If it doesn't quote her I'm not taking it in no matter the source. With this information we need uponit7771 Jul 2020 #23
She refused to be interviewed for the article. n/t ChiTownDenny Jul 2020 #36
NFW! Even if she did, Trumps owns this murderous mismanagement OhNo-Really Jul 2020 #34
It is really hard to believe that . . Iliyah Jul 2020 #6
See the NYT article from yesterday. niyad Jul 2020 #12
whatever kind of soul that woman ever have barbtries Jul 2020 #7
She should resign. SunSeeker Jul 2020 #8
She should go. She sold out and stayed when proven wrong Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #9
And he chose the model developed by a half ass economist. gibraltar72 Jul 2020 #10
Everything Trump Touches Dies, and respected Dr Birx got sucked in to the whirlpool Hekate Jul 2020 #13
She's a dominionist like Barr, Pence, Pompeo... jcgoldie Jul 2020 #14
Fking religion! It destroyed my family and now it's destroying my country. OMGWTF Jul 2020 #30
The first time I saw her at one of those "briefings", she had that nancy reagan stepford wives niyad Jul 2020 #15
What I noticed about her in the beginning PatSeg Jul 2020 #32
Never trusted her durablend Jul 2020 #16
"Dr. Birx was more central than publicly known to the Hortensis Jul 2020 #17
Apparently She & Jared Are Now Buds Me. Jul 2020 #38
I dont care for her but I dont believe for a second that she told them .. bullimiami Jul 2020 #18
And when it started going off the rails exboyfil Jul 2020 #21
Morons can be doctors Generic Brad Jul 2020 #26
touche' bullimiami Jul 2020 #44
Sounds like the newest 'shift the blame' BS by the WH... WePurrsevere Jul 2020 #19
She flushed her credibility in March exboyfil Jul 2020 #20
Birx might be remembered for announcing that tennis could be safely social empedocles Jul 2020 #22
Scarfy has been a sellout for Trump almost from the very COLGATE4 Jul 2020 #24
her opinions are as dead to me as those from all republicans, libertarians, NRaleighLiberal Jul 2020 #25
See you in hell Scarf Lady. OMGWTF Jul 2020 #27
Yeah, that was her #1 goal, gab13by13 Jul 2020 #29
If this country had done a hard shut down as did Italy, yeah, PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #28
Yes but... mgardener Jul 2020 #31
Trump listened to her because she told him what he wanted to hear. patphil Jul 2020 #33
Wonder if these sycophants suck up because of fear, or loyalty, or need of power bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #37
What Would We Expect From A Homophobic, Conservative Republican? Me. Jul 2020 #35
Maybe, but this is an admin who threw Fauci under the bus. aikoaiko Jul 2020 #39
She said it, Trump bought it RANDYWILDMAN Jul 2020 #40
Birx needs to be fired right now. Thousands of deaths can be laid at her door for early reopenings. Lonestarblue Jul 2020 #41
And the US could've had the same trajectory as Italy if there was a NATION WIDE SHUTDOWN. iluvtennis Jul 2020 #42

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
1. Her opinions are becoming meaningless as she tries to suckup to Trump
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:14 PM
Jul 2020

She has hitched her wagon to Trump period.

Docreed2003

(16,846 posts)
2. I think this is probably spot on
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:16 PM
Jul 2020

Birx seemed ready and willing to promote and support the Trump response all spring. However, we're seeing so many of the stories about Birx emerging, could this be a means for the Trump people to say "Gee, he listened to our expert and she was wrong. See it's not his fault!"

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
5. +1, I'd like to here her back this claim up cause Red Don would throw people under the bus & expect
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:19 PM
Jul 2020

... them to be quite cause that's what sick in the head people do.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
4. I don't believe this, I'd like to hear that backed up by her own words. They could be trying to ...
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:18 PM
Jul 2020

... throw her under the bus too and the press in the US is too sloppy to do concrete follow up.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
23. If it doesn't quote her I'm not taking it in no matter the source. With this information we need
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 04:06 PM
Jul 2020

... to hear Birx's own words and not people in the admin willing to throw people under the bus cause their lord and savior is a fuck up.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
34. NFW! Even if she did, Trumps owns this murderous mismanagement
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 05:31 PM
Jul 2020

Certainly Dr Fauci & Dr. Redmond disagreed. This is a blatant lie.

What, did they bribe her with Gucci & Pure Gold scarfs? Threaten her family? Compromat?

Is our goose cooked?

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
6. It is really hard to believe that . .
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:19 PM
Jul 2020

I see they are shifting blame on someone else although I feel that she is not as qualified as other experts concerning the virus, but shithole was thinking about the virus disappearing probably back in late 2019 or very early 2020. t-rump's main concern is re-election and that centers around the economy.

Just my opinion.

barbtries

(28,756 posts)
7. whatever kind of soul that woman ever have
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:23 PM
Jul 2020

she sold it right on down the river for trump. all he needed was one scientist to say what he wanted to hear. the more i think on this the more pissed i am.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,936 posts)
9. She should go. She sold out and stayed when proven wrong
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:24 PM
Jul 2020

She may or may not have told him it depended on masking and a high degree of isolation, but regardless he heard only what he wanted to hear and she was/is fine with that.

Her actions are a disservice to Americans.

gibraltar72

(7,498 posts)
10. And he chose the model developed by a half ass economist.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:27 PM
Jul 2020

Tell him what he wants to hear. Not what he needs to hear.

jcgoldie

(11,610 posts)
14. She's a dominionist like Barr, Pence, Pompeo...
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:37 PM
Jul 2020

This is bigger than getting "sucked in" by conman Trump.

OMGWTF

(3,938 posts)
30. Fking religion! It destroyed my family and now it's destroying my country.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 05:19 PM
Jul 2020

I don't need religion; I have a conscience.

niyad

(113,020 posts)
15. The first time I saw her at one of those "briefings", she had that nancy reagan stepford wives
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:38 PM
Jul 2020

look on her face as she looked at covidiot45*. And when she did not get up and leave during that insane Lysol/lightbulb bs, she surrendered whatever atom of integrity she might have had left. Like so many others, she sold her professional standing and her soul, to the murderer in chief.

PatSeg

(47,238 posts)
32. What I noticed about her in the beginning
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 05:27 PM
Jul 2020

was that she was so chipper and cheerful in the midst of a serious pandemic, as if she was talking about an upcoming holiday celebration, not a potentially deadly disease. It was as if she enjoyed playing to the camera. I didn't care for her from day one.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. "Dr. Birx was more central than publicly known to the
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:43 PM
Jul 2020
judgment inside the West Wing that the virus was on a downward path. Colleagues described her as dedicated to public health and working herself to exhaustion to get the data right.

But her model-based assessment nonetheless failed to account for a vital variable: how Mr. Trump’s rush to urge a return to normal would help undercut the social distancing and other measures that were holding down the numbers."


While attempting to feed TrumpCo sugar-coated information that wouldn't be flat spat out, she didn't adequately account for the effect her one-soft-peddling-voice-among-20,000-alarm-sounders would have on Trump's decisions to completely ignore her advice and thus on the consequent disease course. Trump's determination to completely REFUSE to address the pandemic, only demonstrated over time, was not a factor plugged into her model.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
38. Apparently She & Jared Are Now Buds
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 05:39 PM
Jul 2020

He likes how she can think out of the box according to a NYT's piece posted someone here yesterday

bullimiami

(13,074 posts)
18. I dont care for her but I dont believe for a second that she told them ..
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:44 PM
Jul 2020

that the virus would take the same trajectory as italy regardless of how we acted.

shes a doctor, not a moron.

trump otoh is a moron, not a doctor.

this sounds like what trump decided would happen, in one ear, through the mangled synapses, out the mouth.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
21. And when it started going off the rails
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:53 PM
Jul 2020

She and Fauci should have gone on every network even if means their jobs to emphasize how important it is to do the following. Fauci did some. She kept cleaning up after Trump's messes.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
19. Sounds like the newest 'shift the blame' BS by the WH...
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:49 PM
Jul 2020

If she just rolls over and takes it she's a damn fool. Trump and Cons throw people under the bus all of the time, it's just her turn in the barrel.

Oh and one of the things that makes me think this is a set up is that the article ends quoting a WH spokesperson with the normal SSDD, 'Trump is awesome it's not him it's those pesky Democrats and radical left', 'shift the blame' BS...

"President Trump and his bold actions from the very beginning of this pandemic stand in stark contrast to the do-nothing Democrats and radical left who just complain, criticize and condemn anything this president does to preserve this nation," White House spokesman Judd Deere told the Times.


I wonder how much a soul goes for these days. There seems to be a rush to sell by Trump humping Cult45ers.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
20. She flushed her credibility in March
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:52 PM
Jul 2020
https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/2020/march/us-coronavirus-task-force-coordinator-tells-news-communities-have-the-ability-to-stop-spreading-virus


Birx explained that President Trump has been mindful of the details that continue to come in about the COVID-19.

"He has been so attentive to the details and the data and his ability to analyze and integrate data has been a real benefit during these discussions about medical issues," she added.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
22. Birx might be remembered for announcing that tennis could be safely social
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 04:04 PM
Jul 2020

distancing in a way that involved players 'not touching each other's balls'.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
24. Scarfy has been a sellout for Trump almost from the very
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 04:40 PM
Jul 2020

beginning. I vividly remember he chastising the press telling them how Trump was a master at grasping facts rapidly. She's protecting her career, nothing more.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,006 posts)
25. her opinions are as dead to me as those from all republicans, libertarians,
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 04:57 PM
Jul 2020

and conservatives. Waste of time, always wrong.

gab13by13

(21,234 posts)
29. Yeah, that was her #1 goal,
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 05:18 PM
Jul 2020

to show off her scarf du jour.

I thought Rick Wilson was overboard when he said everything Trump touches dies, but he is spot on.

mgardener

(1,810 posts)
31. Yes but...
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 05:22 PM
Jul 2020

It seemed Trump changed the variable by pushing re opening.


Dr. Birx was more central than publicly known to the judgment inside the West Wing that the virus was on a downward path. Colleagues described her as dedicated to public health and working herself to exhaustion to get the data right, but her model-based assessment nonetheless failed to account for a vital variable: how Mr. Trump’s rush to urge a return to normal would help undercut the social distancing and other measures that were holding down the numbers.

patphil

(6,144 posts)
33. Trump listened to her because she told him what he wanted to hear.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 05:28 PM
Jul 2020

Even when it was obvious she was wrong, he still held onto her assessment because he desperately needed the virus to go away.

bucolic_frolic

(43,027 posts)
37. Wonder if these sycophants suck up because of fear, or loyalty, or need of power
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 05:39 PM
Jul 2020

Deep down they have to know he's crazy. So something else explains their motivation.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
35. What Would We Expect From A Homophobic, Conservative Republican?
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 05:37 PM
Jul 2020

Boy did she pull the wool over everyone's eyes, all that fawning over her.

aikoaiko

(34,160 posts)
39. Maybe, but this is an admin who threw Fauci under the bus.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 05:44 PM
Jul 2020

I'd like to see names and accountability for these claims.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,663 posts)
40. She said it, Trump bought it
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 05:45 PM
Jul 2020

cause that is what he wanted/needed to happen. It didn't work out not Birx is toast. donnie does not care who gets ruined in his wake as long as he doesn't go down.

iluvtennis

(19,823 posts)
42. And the US could've had the same trajectory as Italy if there was a NATION WIDE SHUTDOWN.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 06:25 PM
Jul 2020

That's what Italy did, they shutdown the entire country from early March until early June - nearly 3 full months.

Here in the states, some places never even shutdown.

So, Dr Birx's projection that we could have the same trajectory as Italy was false.

And how come trump's so called "experts" (pence, kushner) never asked the question - how can the US follow Italy given there was no 3 month national shutdown.

Birx simply told trump what he wanted to hear.

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