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Meadows says Trump is readying a new executive order to expand the federal takeover of cities (Original Post) EleanorR Jul 2020 OP
Martial law, who would have thought that might happen? Oh, everybody. dem4decades Jul 2020 #1
I started worrying about this some months back Wawannabe Jul 2020 #27
Everyone but mercuryblues Jul 2020 #32
She might even become very deeply troubled if it was Portland Maine. dem4decades Jul 2020 #37
So Was That Trump's Plan All Along.... global1 Jul 2020 #33
Looks likely doesn't it? wnylib Jul 2020 #44
Sounds right leighbythesea2 Jul 2020 #49
Federal..takeover... of... cities.. louis-t Jul 2020 #2
No we're not. 2naSalit Jul 2020 #17
I like your attitude.. I cannot give in to them even with Cha Jul 2020 #19
I have no intent to 2naSalit Jul 2020 #20
Fuckheads know we're close too.. so they're like Cha Jul 2020 #25
There is no lawlessness . . Iliyah Jul 2020 #3
plenty of lawlessness. mostly within the white house, though.... unblock Jul 2020 #6
This will not sit well even with a lot of people in his base la-trucker Jul 2020 #4
they were never afraid of the federal government taking over. unblock Jul 2020 #8
+100% lunasun Jul 2020 #24
This unblock! Wawannabe Jul 2020 #28
Exactly. Well put. wnylib Jul 2020 #46
The fuckers fear I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2020 #64
Nope. They will be completely cool with it. NutmegYankee Jul 2020 #11
Don't kid yourself. His base thinks the reinstatement of the death penalty means Trump can execute dem4decades Jul 2020 #30
Defund DHS! Zoonart Jul 2020 #5
Trump is working on a hostile takeover of the US (I think) and probably Putin is advising him. RKP5637 Jul 2020 #7
But do they have enough people wnylib Jul 2020 #48
He probably won't let it rest if he starts ... n/t RKP5637 Jul 2020 #62
I'm apologize, but who the heck is Dan Friedman? Hoyt Jul 2020 #9
I didn't want to link to fox EleanorR Jul 2020 #10
Yeah, FOX is not good. But, so far, even in Portland, the feds haven't taken over any Hoyt Jul 2020 #14
Frightening ..nt Jarqui Jul 2020 #12
In order to distract from his pandemic failures..... calguy Jul 2020 #13
I agree. And, all the while, Barr and Trump will sit on their asses in complete safety. Frustratedlady Jul 2020 #18
buckle the fuck up. onethatcares Jul 2020 #15
He's drunk with power and the repubs are enabling him. Liberal In Texas Jul 2020 #16
+1 Tommymac Jul 2020 #52
will this get republicans off their asses? spanone Jul 2020 #21
Think he's "learned his lesson" yet, Senator Collins? Beartracks Jul 2020 #22
Is Susan Sarandon remorseful yet? Ilsa Jul 2020 #39
I predict that the only cities Trump will attack procon Jul 2020 #23
Seattle too Wawannabe Jul 2020 #29
I don't think he will take on cities as large as wnylib Jul 2020 #54
You can bet your sweet ass DENVERPOPS Jul 2020 #57
I bet they will continue with this shit EVEN if a judge bluestarone Jul 2020 #26
WtF are they waiting for. jorgevlorgan Jul 2020 #31
The 25th Amendment won't do it jmowreader Jul 2020 #47
I'm afraid you are right... jorgevlorgan Jul 2020 #69
Time for National Guards and State Police to take action against Feds? LiberalFighter Jul 2020 #34
Since Meadows is also conspiring he needs to go to prison too. LiberalFighter Jul 2020 #35
This is what Trump meant in that press conference about next 8 weeks. progressive nobody Jul 2020 #36
Good! This will forever cement in people's minds the Nazi factor in Trump and his minions. machoneman Jul 2020 #38
Well, these SOBs are about to get me out of the house....fuck them! ashredux Jul 2020 #40
And this will be his justification for suspending the election Javaman Jul 2020 #41
He can't. paleotn Jul 2020 #50
Exactly! If there is no election him term is over come 1/20/2021 at noon- pence too Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #60
And rest assured, CA WILL have a Nov. election... paleotn Jul 2020 #66
Not if Trump is dictator. triron Jul 2020 #68
I know but he doesn't care and will still try Javaman Jul 2020 #61
He can try... paleotn Jul 2020 #65
He can sign all the E.O.s he wants. Cities like NYC, Chicago, LA will NEVER tolerate these goons Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #42
Correct. murielm99 Jul 2020 #45
Spewing BS again.... paleotn Jul 2020 #43
Exactly!! Fear is their best weapon, probably the only one they have left. Don't buy it Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #51
+ A Million ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #53
Illegitimati non carborundum!! niyad Jul 2020 #55
A tactical nuclear strike on a medium-sized US city by a hostile power, but a friend of trumps... erronis Jul 2020 #56
NOW can we compare them to Nazis? Midnight Writer Jul 2020 #58
I was hoping I wouldn't live to see the end of American Democracy SiliconValley_Dem Jul 2020 #59
Just how many people do we have at Border Patrol blueinredohio Jul 2020 #63
+100 Duppers Jul 2020 #67

Wawannabe

(5,657 posts)
27. I started worrying about this some months back
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 06:45 PM
Jul 2020

I am not surprised but I am afraid and will begin to put my alt reality plan into action. This is not safe or American.

global1

(25,242 posts)
33. So Was That Trump's Plan All Along....
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 07:31 PM
Jul 2020

Let Covid get out of control. Create chaos around wearing masks to pit people against each other. Cause trouble in the streets.
Declare 'martial law' & bring the goons in. Postpone or cancel the election.

Is this why he's done nothing to defeat Covid?

2naSalit

(86,579 posts)
17. No we're not.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 06:19 PM
Jul 2020

We just have to refuse to comply and sue the fuck out them. They want people to freak out.

Cha

(297,188 posts)
19. I like your attitude.. I cannot give in to them even with
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 06:31 PM
Jul 2020

the slightest whiff of verbal acquiescence.

The Evil trump Treasonous Traitors ARE FUCKED!

Cha

(297,188 posts)
25. Fuckheads know we're close too.. so they're like
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 06:38 PM
Jul 2020

Cornered Desperate Rabid RATS.. frothing at their Fucking mouths.

 

la-trucker

(283 posts)
4. This will not sit well even with a lot of people in his base
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 06:00 PM
Jul 2020

They fear Democrats would do something like this and take away their guns.

This is one of their worst nightmares and many in the base will not like it. The koolaid gang will cheer it though.

unblock

(52,208 posts)
8. they were never afraid of the federal government taking over.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 06:04 PM
Jul 2020

they were afraid of democrats and black people and women and hispanic people taking over.

they'll be more than happy to see the federal government round up and kill americans, as long as it's republicans doing it and as long as they don't do it to too many white people.



NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
11. Nope. They will be completely cool with it.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 06:08 PM
Jul 2020

It’s all about who is in charge. As long as they or those they support are in charge, they’ll back any atrocity.

dem4decades

(11,288 posts)
30. Don't kid yourself. His base thinks the reinstatement of the death penalty means Trump can execute
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 06:52 PM
Jul 2020

Obama's Justice Department. They don't give a fuck.

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
7. Trump is working on a hostile takeover of the US (I think) and probably Putin is advising him.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 06:02 PM
Jul 2020

The US citizenry is not used to this type of crap as in some other countries. ... I think many Americans live in la la land thinking things will just correct. I would not be surprised to see some form of Martial Law happen eventually. I could see what happened in Portland happening in many cities.

wnylib

(21,445 posts)
48. But do they have enough people
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 08:14 PM
Jul 2020

to carry out this type of action in cities across the nation?

Yesterday there were posts about the number of available thugs from CBP and FPS to follow through.

OTOH, if citizens fight back, especially if they think they outnumber the thugs, that gives Trump the excuse to bring ing the National Guard.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
14. Yeah, FOX is not good. But, so far, even in Portland, the feds haven't taken over any
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 06:12 PM
Jul 2020

cities. That was Friedman’s characterization.

calguy

(5,306 posts)
13. In order to distract from his pandemic failures.....
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 06:10 PM
Jul 2020

Trump has to create something bigger than the virus itself ..... a civil war. The scene is Portland is giving him the footage to "justify" amping up the goon squad atracks. He's a desperate man doing desperate things. The next four months will get very ugly.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
18. I agree. And, all the while, Barr and Trump will sit on their asses in complete safety.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 06:20 PM
Jul 2020

I feel we are back in Trump's bedroom as a young boy, playing with his soldiers, tanks and heavy artillery.

He will finally have his war and his military parade as we lose our democracy.



onethatcares

(16,167 posts)
15. buckle the fuck up.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 06:12 PM
Jul 2020

it's gonna be a bumpy ride and this citizen/veteran is not going to take this lightly.

Good luck to all of you, Who knows how this is going to turn out but we're all going to learn what democracy means in the good, old, U.S. of A.

Liberal In Texas

(13,548 posts)
16. He's drunk with power and the repubs are enabling him.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 06:13 PM
Jul 2020

For the people who say there are some good republicans around, I say, WHERE?

procon

(15,805 posts)
23. I predict that the only cities Trump will attack
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 06:35 PM
Jul 2020

will by those in blue states. There are many large metro cities that are predominately Democratic and voted against Trump.

Given Trump's predilection for revenge and his preference for violence, this will quickly escalate out of control. Trump would be giddy if could figure out some excuse to bomb New York City, Chicago or San Francisco.

wnylib

(21,445 posts)
54. I don't think he will take on cities as large as
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 08:24 PM
Jul 2020

Chicago, LA, or NYC. More likely smaller ones mostly in blue states.

DENVERPOPS

(8,817 posts)
57. You can bet your sweet ass
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 08:41 PM
Jul 2020

these Border Patrol goons will only go to Democrat States, and cities...........

Every single day, it gets more frightening and scarier, doesn't it..........

PUTIN has ordered Trump and His RepubliCONs to do this to create a second American Civil War and Destroy America, our Constitution, and our Democracy.

Putin is destroying America, and he hasn't had to fire a single missile or rocket..........Everyday Putin is watching U.S. news and laughing his ass off at how simple it was.......

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
47. The 25th Amendment won't do it
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 08:14 PM
Jul 2020

All the people it takes to make the 25th Amendment get rid of a president are in Trump's pocket.

Now, I've got a simple 8th Amendment question. The Eighth clearly says "excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted." The way I read this is, a punishment has to be both cruel and unusual to be forbidden, but a punishment that is only cruel or only unusual is okay.

And so, do ya think it would be "cruel but not unusual" to sentence Trump to work as a turf technician on the Fort Bragg golf courses for the rest of his life and never allow him to play?

 

progressive nobody

(816 posts)
36. This is what Trump meant in that press conference about next 8 weeks.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 07:38 PM
Jul 2020

We are seeing the first step to Martial Law.

ashredux

(2,605 posts)
40. Well, these SOBs are about to get me out of the house....fuck them!
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 07:47 PM
Jul 2020

And I am in the high risk category

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
50. He can't.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 08:16 PM
Jul 2020

There's no mechanism for the executive branch to delay or suspend a presidential election. Constitutionally, that power resides with the Congress.

Interesting article on just this subject....

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/does-the-constitution-allow-for-a-delayed-presidential-election

Thekaspervote

(32,762 posts)
60. Exactly! If there is no election him term is over come 1/20/2021 at noon- pence too
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:00 PM
Jul 2020

The speaker of the house becomes then interim president

President Pelosi...sounds good to me!!

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
66. And rest assured, CA WILL have a Nov. election...
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:45 PM
Jul 2020

and Speaker Pelosi will be reelected and the reelected as Speaker. State matter, outside the purview of the Feds and up to the majority in the House.

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
61. I know but he doesn't care and will still try
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:02 PM
Jul 2020

He’s setting it up now by claiming that mail in votes are nothing but fraudulent. But before then he and Barr will deploy his Brownshirt paramilitary around the nation as voter intimidators. And when he still loses he will tie everything up in court but he will ignore that and use it as a platform to rile up his few remaining supporters to act out in defiance of the vote results

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
65. He can try...
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:42 PM
Jul 2020

but he only has a handful of DHS goons and some piss-their-pants militia nuts. More like a Munich putsch. We should be on our guard for his craziness, no doubt, but don't think these people have some kind of workable grand strategy. They're simply not that smart. The Dems and the states aren't going to sit idly by as they attempt any crazy shit and the courts are on our side. The one thing I am certain of, on Jan. 20, 2021 at noon he'll be asked to leave. If he doesn't he will be removed. The Constitution is rather explicit on that point. But I don't think he's got the cojones to cause that much trouble. He'll spout crazy shit no one will pay much attention to and then go off and pout. That's what he does. If his handlers have any sense at all, he'll then skip the country to a destination that lacks an extradition treaty with the US.

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
53. + A Million
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 08:22 PM
Jul 2020

It's blustering & bluffing.
Portland was a trial balloon and there's been blowback.
And, they don't have the resources for very large cities. That's why they picked on Portland.
Big enough city for a test, but one that didn't need 3,000 personnel.
Can anybody imagine Cuomo, Newsome or Pritzker not taking counter action? Both police & court action.
The trial balloon is blowing up on them and Meadows is bluffing to look strong.
Ain't gonna happen.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
56. A tactical nuclear strike on a medium-sized US city by a hostile power, but a friend of trumps...
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 08:32 PM
Jul 2020

A declaration of war with all of the ancillary benefits of being a "war president."

An acquiescence to the power of the hostile force and an unwillingness to counter in kind.

A selling out of the country by the venal traitor.

Just sci-fi. Couldn't happen.

But I bet it's being planned in many war rooms around the globe.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
63. Just how many people do we have at Border Patrol
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:17 PM
Jul 2020

that they can send to different cities? Think maybe there's a few vigilantes and mercenaries in there? People like Eric Prince? I'm hoping there's someone who can stop this shit before too many people get killed.

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