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writes3000

(4,734 posts)
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 07:41 PM Jul 2020

"Donald Trump is going to lose because he's lost his grip on swing voters - and won't get them back"

Today’s opinion piece from the Cleveland Plain Dealer is 🔥. I’m glad to see this coming out of Ohio.

Some choice sections....

“Donald Trump is going to lose because he’s lost his grip on swing voters - and won’t get them back

Swing voters overlooked a lot before turning on President Donald Trump. For more than five years, they left pollsters with the unmistakable impression there was no such thing as a Trump tipping point.

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Biden will beat Trump because Biden is a genuine human being. Trump can’t demonize Biden the way he did Hillary Clinton, though he’ll probably resort to even more outright fabrications in an effort to do just that.

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But most importantly, they know Trump made little more than a halfhearted effort to prevent Americans from dying of a virus that has already killed more of them than the Korean and Vietnam wars combined.

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The whole piece is worth reading:

https://www.cleveland.com/opinion/2020/07/donald-trump-is-going-to-lose-because-hes-lost-his-grip-on-swing-voters-and-wont-get-them-back.html

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"Donald Trump is going to lose because he's lost his grip on swing voters - and won't get them back" (Original Post) writes3000 Jul 2020 OP
Holy Shit, that's some plain dealing right there. ZZenith Jul 2020 #1
I see what you did there. Clever. Funtatlaguy Jul 2020 #7
The name of that outfit has always cracked me up. ZZenith Jul 2020 #8
Fair and Balanced sure fooled a lot of people. Funtatlaguy Jul 2020 #9
To our eternal chagrin. ZZenith Jul 2020 #12
K&R smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #2
I can't even say "better late than never" without feeling sick Skittles Jul 2020 #3
Swing voters be like . . . Aussie105 Jul 2020 #4
We're motivated. Trust us. It looks like it's going to get worse as the wheels come off. writes3000 Jul 2020 #5
Very well explained. SergeStorms Jul 2020 #18
The "What have you done for me lately" brigade has come to the rescue. Yay! nt Xipe Totec Jul 2020 #6
As long as we don't have outright civil war by Election Day. Firestorm49 Jul 2020 #10
We're not. paleotn Jul 2020 #17
He and Barr have a different plan. Firestorm49 Jul 2020 #11
He's going to lose because by election day the US will look like Dickensian England bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #13
He lost his GRIP ON REALITY! BigmanPigman Jul 2020 #14
Yes, he's insane. Wants to have huge rallies in the midst of a pandemic... brush Jul 2020 #15
And he's doing everything within his power... paleotn Jul 2020 #16
Plainly Dealt! dchill Jul 2020 #19
I Heard From A Very Knowledgable Source......... ChoppinBroccoli Jul 2020 #20

ZZenith

(4,119 posts)
8. The name of that outfit has always cracked me up.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 08:04 PM
Jul 2020

Who couldn’t trust such an outlet for news when they tell you right up front they ain’t lyin’.

Skittles

(153,142 posts)
3. I can't even say "better late than never" without feeling sick
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 07:49 PM
Jul 2020

is THAT all it took? 140,00 unnecessary deaths?

Aussie105

(5,377 posts)
4. Swing voters be like . . .
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 07:51 PM
Jul 2020

'Oh, no, that is just one step too far!'

Normal voters be like . . .

'Just more proof he is totally nuts.'

Rusted on Repug voters be like . . .

'He is my leader. I will follow him to the gates of Hell!'

Democratic party voters be like . . .

'Oh the agony! How could our President be so obtuse?'

Me, far away in Australia be like . . .

'Come on America! Sort this mess. Sort it NOW! Your very existence is at stake here!'

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
13. He's going to lose because by election day the US will look like Dickensian England
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:14 PM
Jul 2020

Evictions, defaults, pandemic, food banks overwhelmed and understaffed, homelessness .... it's coming.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
14. He lost his GRIP ON REALITY!
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:24 PM
Jul 2020

That is another reason people are turning on him...they can SEE things are getting worse and his pressers/rallies and Fux interviews are showing he is crazy as a bed bug!

brush

(53,764 posts)
15. Yes, he's insane. Wants to have huge rallies in the midst of a pandemic...
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:30 PM
Jul 2020

and is flabbergasted that Dem governors won't allow it.

In-fucking-sane.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
16. And he's doing everything within his power...
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:47 PM
Jul 2020

to increase his loss of swing voters, over 65's, suburban women...fill in the blank. Other than Rethuglican base racists. He's got them down pat.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
20. I Heard From A Very Knowledgable Source.........
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 10:59 PM
Jul 2020

.............that Trump's strategy this time around is to try to "beat the bushes" and squeeze MORE votes out of an ever-shrinking segment of the population. He knows he's lost most of the swing voters, so he's going to try to get more racists to vote for him. That's why what you'll see in the coming months (and you're already starting to see it a little bit) is he'll double down on the racism, trying to get MORE of the racist vote. It's literally his ONLY path to victory, and even that might not be enough.

For example, one of the more reliable voting blocs is the older white folks. They generally eat up the racist the stuff, and they generally break hard for Republicans. From what I've heard, the older white voting bloc has softened due to the Coronavirus (the person didn't say whether it was because they disapproved of Trump's handling of the virus, or if it was because they were DYING). However, he said that that voting bloc could possibly harden over the next few months if Trump goes back to the whole "take back our country from the people trying to steal it from us" racist rhetoric. So that's why I think you'll see Trump go even more racist over the next few months. He's trying to squeeze more votes out of an ever-shrinking base.

According to this person, the odds are "heavily against him" being able to find enough votes to overcome the swing voters he's already lost.

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