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RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:42 PM Jul 2020

Trump's stunning blatant lie.

I watched the interview Trump had with Chris Wallace. Wallace made some statement about fatalities and Trump replied that the US was number one in Covid_19. Then he called for someone to give him a piece of paper; he looked at it and said, "US NUMBER ONE IN FATALITIES". This was a blatant and deliberate lie. The US is near the bottom in the fatality rate.

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Trump's stunning blatant lie. (Original Post) RDANGELO Jul 2020 OP
Wait....what? Nevilledog Jul 2020 #1
Per Capita DanieRains Jul 2020 #2
DJT told the truth. KentuckyWoman Jul 2020 #3
He said number one low: unblock Jul 2020 #6
"I heard" what he wanted to hear. louis-t Jul 2020 #8
He heard? He heard?? He's talking like ... Whiskeytide Jul 2020 #10
Thank you D_Master81 Jul 2020 #11
I know. You would think that a professional con man ... Whiskeytide Jul 2020 #17
I looked at deaths per million people. subterranean Jul 2020 #9
According to worldometers.com ... VMA131Marine Jul 2020 #4
Per worldometers, we're #10 per-capita. cos dem Jul 2020 #5
I would think that with so many tRUMP-lite governors out there NoMoreRepugs Jul 2020 #7
Of course he's right. We are number one in fatalities. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #12
+1 2naSalit Jul 2020 #14
My Trump Cult Former Friend Tried To Tell Me The Mortality Rate Was Nearly Zero ChoppinBroccoli Jul 2020 #13
They follow Trump's example and never even look at the statistics dawg day Jul 2020 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Laffy Kat Jul 2020 #15
See yuiyoshida's OP above: Vietnam has had ZERO deaths from COVID. Laffy Kat Jul 2020 #16
But we are NUMBER ONE IN FATALITIES. GeorgeGist Jul 2020 #18
25th Amendment NOW Dirty Socialist Jul 2020 #20

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
3. DJT told the truth.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:49 PM
Jul 2020

He said we are number one in Fatalities, and we are. We have more than any other country.

He considers being number one in deaths a good thing. He considers being number one at anything is good thing. The rest of us don't.

PS - Regarding Fatality RATE - you have to look at the numbers that go into the percentage. If you look at deaths per confirmed cases, then we are in the middle somewhere. If you look at deaths per capita then the rate is lower.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
6. He said number one low:
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:58 PM
Jul 2020

TRUMP: But when you talk about mortality rates, I think it's the opposite. I think we have one of the lowest mortality rates in the world.

...

TRUMP: Kayleigh's right here. I heard we have one of the lowest, maybe the lowest mortality rate anywhere in the world.

TRUMP: Do you have the numbers, please? Because I heard we had the best mortality rate.

TRUMP: Number, number one low mortality rate.


I got the transcript from foxnews but I'm not going to link there....

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
10. He heard? He heard?? He's talking like ...
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 10:24 PM
Jul 2020

... he’s at a cocktail party talking politics with a couple of other idiots. He’s supposed to be the president of the US! He should fucking KNOW.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
11. Thank you
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 10:31 PM
Jul 2020

He always talks like your basic conservative idiot that quotes something they heard but didn’t bother to look it up to see if it’s true.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
17. I know. You would think that a professional con man ...
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 11:10 PM
Jul 2020

... would be better at acting his part. I guess he knows his target audience.

Maybe I should give him credit as a con artist. A good one knows many won’t fall for the BS, and just doesn’t care as long as the marks soak it up.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
9. I looked at deaths per million people.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 10:19 PM
Jul 2020

In that category, the US in the top ten (of MOST deaths per million), behind about 6 European countries and Chile. Certainly not something to boast about.

I think you're right -- Trump didn't read past the title of the report, saw the US is "number one in fatalities," and figured that means we're the best.

VMA131Marine

(4,138 posts)
4. According to worldometers.com ...
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:50 PM
Jul 2020

The US has the 10th highest COVID19 death rate at 433 per million population. Number 1 is San Marino at 1,238 per million, but the population is very small and they have only had 42 deaths.
Two through nine are:
Belgium 🇧🇪
Andorra 🇦🇩
UK 🇬🇧
Spain 🇪🇸
Italy 🇮🇹
Sweden 🇸🇪
France 🇫🇷
Chile 🇨🇱


I’m not sure if anyone is paying attention, but India 🇮🇳 is starting to look like a disaster: 40,000+ new cases today and growth is still exponential.

cos dem

(903 posts)
5. Per worldometers, we're #10 per-capita.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 09:53 PM
Jul 2020
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

There are 198 (roughly, depending how you count) countries in the world, so at #10, we are very far from the bottom.

Notable countries with higher death rates:
Belgium, UK, Spain, Italy, Sweden, France, Chile.
The only one that surprises me is Belgium.

Smaller countries like San Marino and Andorra have too few data points to be statistically significant.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,412 posts)
7. I would think that with so many tRUMP-lite governors out there
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 10:17 PM
Jul 2020

(Kemp, DeSantis, etc) the numbers being reported aren’t exactly accurate.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
13. My Trump Cult Former Friend Tried To Tell Me The Mortality Rate Was Nearly Zero
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 10:51 PM
Jul 2020

I was like, "Are you F'ing KIDDING me? The mortality rate is SPIKING." He was absolutely certain that deaths were WAY down, and the only reason they weren't ZERO was because New York's numbers, under Cuomo's "incompetent leadership," were skewing the results. I was like, "What color is the sky in your world?"

This is the same guy who told me that 99% of the people who catch it have no symptoms at all, it's no worse than the flu, and the only people dying from it are old people. I told him, "I guess All Lives don't Matter anymore, do they?" He didn't like that.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
19. They follow Trump's example and never even look at the statistics
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 11:27 PM
Jul 2020

Trump talks like he just glimpsed some headline about the fatality rate. Any real president would have paid constant attention to the information. (Think of Obama during Ebola... which killed only 2 in America.)

Then Trumpers do their best to avoid even the headlines. How could they possibly not have noticed 140,000 deaths in 3 months? They refuse to notice, even though it's in the news all the time. Maybe OANN never mentions the deaths.

Response to RDANGELO (Original post)

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
16. See yuiyoshida's OP above: Vietnam has had ZERO deaths from COVID.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 11:09 PM
Jul 2020

The country did everything right and is saving 97 million souls. Officially, less than 400 people there have been infected.

Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
20. 25th Amendment NOW
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 11:35 PM
Jul 2020

From “Dr. Strangelove”:
“Obviously this man is a psychotic”.

Throw him out of office NOW. He’s crackers!

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