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Many of us have voiced the concern that the Lincoln Project is doing the right thing but they are the opposition.
This is not only true, but I pray it stays true. We need an opposing party that understand that the country is more important than their party is. There used to be a tradition of reading George Washington's Farewell Address. This tradition disappeared during my lifetime.
One of the warnings that Washington gave was to not put party ahead of the nation. We need an opposing party for our party to remain honest. We need argument and opposition. But we need decent, patriotic opposition and not what we have seen from the Republican party ever since and perhaps before Nixon. If the Lincoln Project keeps to the voice and values they have shown in their videos and statements, I welcome them and wish with all my heart that they will reform the Republican party and give us the opponent that we need. An opponent that fights hard, and fights smart. An opponent that fights for the betterment of our nation, is the opponent we need.
Imagine a day when bipartisan does not mean concessions were made to pay off crooks. Imagine a day where bipartisan means it was thought through and argued with the intent of making our nation and our world a safer and better place.
JI7
(89,249 posts)I feel like most of the concerned are those who don't want us to win.
Also they aren't asking us to vote for them.
The real concern are people who support Trump.
The TLP are playing and exploiting the scared dems. Do you have a guarantee that the donations they are collecting wont be used against Democratic candidates?
JI7
(89,249 posts)people have hated Trump for years. They didn't just decide they hated trump now. They never supported him.
BTW we have no gaurantee that people who claim to be democrats, liberals, progressives will not use things against Democrats.
in 2016 trashy people attended the Democratic convention and booed the Democratic nominee and other democrats like John Lewis .
Sewa
(1,255 posts)Do you want to fund the rise of the Neo-con?
JI7
(89,249 posts)Cha
(297,196 posts)seriously working to get Fascism OUT of OUR WH.
Sewa
(1,255 posts)of the TLP on this site. I thought this was a Democratic site not Republican one.
Cha
(297,196 posts)Gore1FL
(21,130 posts)People forget these were the some folks we were lambasting until Trump.
Sure, I'll welcome their firepower, but it's good, and apparently all-too-necessary to remind people they can't be trusted. In the end, they may not support Trump, but they created him.
JI7
(89,249 posts)The trash at the 2016 Democratic Convention that booed the Democratic nominee and other democrats like John Lewis were more responsible for creating Trump than people who always hated Trump . That trash claimed to be from the left so we know there are frauds everywhere.
But the LP doesn't claim to be liberal or democratic . They don't hide their past.
betsuni
(25,493 posts)Gore1FL
(21,130 posts)I am sick to death of the anti-left sentiment on DU, though. When we praise those that brought fascism and disdain those who share out values, we are doing it wrong.
JI7
(89,249 posts)They were the ones who did all they could to help Trump.
They were the ones pushing the Trump lies .
Fuck them .
mjvpi
(1,388 posts)Big money. Top ad people. Normal George WBush aRepublicans.
Gore1FL
(21,130 posts)They suck. They are not good. They are in no way representative of DU values.
If they want to run anti Trump advertisements and oppose Trump, I am happy to let them. But I won't donate to or praise them. They are the reason we are here. They suck.
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)tman
(983 posts)For now, they are allies in a battle for the sole and the fate of a nation.
applegrove
(118,642 posts)Last edited Mon Jul 20, 2020, 01:43 AM - Edit history (1)
in the middle. Just like the Liberals have one most often in canada over the last 152 years as there are multiple parties in canada so the center party wins. Now i like the Liberals and politics of all parties in canada are way to the left of parties in the US, but a center right party run by the people running the Lincoln Project would break up the Democratic big tent. That is the republicans only choice because the majority of americans refused to give up their humanity and become white supremacists and republicans then need a new coalition as demographics change for good. A Lincoln Party could run in the center and win the presidency then work with Republicans in the House and Senate. I don't know for sure but these are cold blooded operators who have not woken up from anything. They made the Republican Party the less obvious white supremacist party for decades. Think about it.
mucifer
(23,542 posts)I especially like the youtube channel for Republican Voters Against Trump
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC03-Q9vq-JyiStTnqasADVg
It takes you to this video with the words of Ronald Reagan (I hate Reagan BTW) giving his shining city on a hill speech with modern day video images
I don't think a democratic PAC would do that. Plus the testimonials from everyday republicans or former republicans who state in youtube videos why they won't vote for trump this time. Most say they are voting for Biden. Some say they are voting a straight democratic ticket.
I think this is how we win.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)...for a healthy system.
quickesst
(6,280 posts).... firsthand what their party or in many cases, former party has become, there will be great effort to see to it that it never happens again. The Lincoln Project has proven the two partys can work together for the greater good.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)to save our nation .
NNadir
(33,516 posts)In this sense, I miss the old Republican party, before it embraced a cult of personality around a racist idiot.
AmericanCanuck
(1,102 posts)You stated it very eloquently.
Shoonra
(521 posts)I've seen the Lincoln Project videos here but not on TV, where they might change some votes.