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brettdale

(12,365 posts)
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 02:58 AM Jul 2020

Esther Salas family murdered

Just seen this on twitter, I'm guessing the authorities are saying it's all unrelated and
was just random.

US. District Judge Esther Salas is presiding over the Deutsche Bank/Jeffrey Epstein civil case after it was assigned to her 4 days ago.

Her husband and son were shot this evening by a gunman dressed as a FedEx driver. Son died, husband is in critical condition. No coincidence.

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Esther Salas family murdered (Original Post) brettdale Jul 2020 OP
Doesn't make much sense to me RandySF Jul 2020 #1
I don't know.. but now Judge Salas is out and Cha Jul 2020 #3
Is she off the case? Pachamama Jul 2020 #4
Oh sorry, just what I've read on here and Cha Jul 2020 #8
P.S. As mentioned down thread.. it could not Cha Jul 2020 #10
So far it's just Judge Salas' son who was "murdered".. Cha Jul 2020 #2
As cases against Deutsche Bank go, the Epstein part doesn't seem major. Hortensis Jul 2020 #5
The mob president, everything associated with these guys says mob. FedEx Driver is the gunman ?! uponit7771 Jul 2020 #6
It wouldn't make much sense BGBD Jul 2020 #7
How true .. her husband could have been the target. Cha Jul 2020 #9
killing someones family..... AZ8theist Jul 2020 #13
ummmm BGBD Jul 2020 #15
She was also supposed to die but was in the basement and they thought Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #18
Pros are BGBD Jul 2020 #20
I think that it is likely related to Epstein and Trumpers are not known for their Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #22
We're talking about Putin BGBD Jul 2020 #23
And now BGBD Jul 2020 #24
I STAND CORRECTED AZ8theist Jul 2020 #25
Joe Steele by Harry Turtledove. bluestateboomer Jul 2020 #11
As Malcom Nance has always said... AZ8theist Jul 2020 #12
Her husband is a criminal defense lawyer which increases possible suspects with motives wishstar Jul 2020 #14
Russian mob Johnny2X2X Jul 2020 #16
Well, it's certainly doesn't sound random. LisaL Jul 2020 #17
This is a message to all zentrum Jul 2020 #19
Could have been a hit on the husband who was a prominent lawyer in his own right. Kaleva Jul 2020 #21

Cha

(296,873 posts)
8. Oh sorry, just what I've read on here and
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:54 AM
Jul 2020

it seemed logical. Just going by my feelings of how terrorizing and unfathomable it would be for Judge Salas.

But, maybe not.. it's all I've thinking about.. what Judge Salas must be going through.

Have you read this about who she is?

Everything We Know About the Shooting at a Federal Judge’s Home in New Jersey

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/shooting-at-judge-esther-salass-nj-home-what-we-know.html

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13778520


Cha

(296,873 posts)
10. P.S. As mentioned down thread.. it could not
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:00 AM
Jul 2020

even be related to Judge Salas.

It was just so shocking to read that it's not always easy to think clearly right away.

Cha

(296,873 posts)
2. So far it's just Judge Salas' son who was "murdered"..
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:07 AM
Jul 2020

I hope they are guarding her husband in the hospital like his life depends on it.

Everything We Know About the Shooting at a Federal Judge’s Home in New Jersey

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/07/shooting-at-judge-esther-salass-nj-home-what-we-know.html

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. As cases against Deutsche Bank go, the Epstein part doesn't seem major.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:41 AM
Jul 2020

Stockholders suing the bank for money lost due to compliance fines resulting from association with Epstein. But the Deutsche Bank, Danske Bank and FBME Bank associations with organized crime, Russia, terrorists...

This is from WaPo, whose coverage so far for some reason does not yet mention the assignment of the Deutsche Bank case.

Womack, who is friends with Salas and her husband, told ABC he wasn’t aware of any specific threat against the judge. “As a judge, she had threats from time to time, but everyone is saying that recently there had not been any,” Womack said.


In any case, how dreadful for them and this wife and mother. He was their only child.

uponit7771

(90,304 posts)
6. The mob president, everything associated with these guys says mob. FedEx Driver is the gunman ?!
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:50 AM
Jul 2020

... fuckin mob in and out.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
7. It wouldn't make much sense
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:51 AM
Jul 2020

to go after a Judge for a case they had been assigned just a few days before.

There is a whole history of cases she presided over that will need to be looked at. They will also need to look into the possibility that the shooting was unrelated to the judge's work. It's possible that someone else in the house are the target, especially considering that she wasn't shot.

It's certainly not random. Nobody randomly knocks on a door and shoots the person who answers. This was clearly specific, but we are making some assumptions that we probably should wait on.

Yeah, it's tempting to make the jump to this being Epstein related, but it very well may not be.

Cha

(296,873 posts)
9. How true .. her husband could have been the target.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:58 AM
Jul 2020

I read in the link upthread that she was in the basement when it happened.

AZ8theist

(5,417 posts)
13. killing someones family.....
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:15 AM
Jul 2020

is EXACTLY what Doturd said the US should do when referring to Muslim terrorists.

Or have we forgotten about that?

What makes anyone here think this IS NOT what it appears to be? A mob hit on a judge presiding over the Epstein/DB sewer of crime? That will implicate Doturd himself in a multitude of felonies stretching back decades??

Wake up America.

Demsrule86

(68,471 posts)
18. She was also supposed to die but was in the basement and they thought
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:25 AM
Jul 2020

she was not home I expect. Trump is a murderous scum bucket.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
20. Pros are
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:59 AM
Jul 2020

Last edited Mon Jul 20, 2020, 01:04 PM - Edit history (1)

a little better than that. They wouldn't come in guns blazing and not know she was home if she was the target of some Russian mafia hit man or take a minute to find her.

its pretty simple, you ask for the target at the door saying they have to sign for the package personally. If they don't come you leave to try again later. Killing other people without them means the federal protection folks are going to show up and you'll not get another chance.


It wouldn't be the first time somebody tried to kill a defense attorney.

Demsrule86

(68,471 posts)
22. I think that it is likely related to Epstein and Trumpers are not known for their
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:31 PM
Jul 2020

brains or competency.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
23. We're talking about Putin
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:39 PM
Jul 2020

not Joe Exotic. This guys has people killed all the time, I think he could find a capable assassin.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
24. And now
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 01:05 PM
Jul 2020

we are hearing the shooter was an attorney who had a case in front of the judge several years ago.

AZ8theist

(5,417 posts)
25. I STAND CORRECTED
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:39 PM
Jul 2020

This WAS NOT a mob hit.
It was apparently a whack job lawyer with a grudge.
I APOLOGIZE FOR MY POST.
As an Atheist, liberal Democrat, I have the ability to change my beliefs when presented with alternate facts. Something Reich Wingers are UNABLE to do.....

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
14. Her husband is a criminal defense lawyer which increases possible suspects with motives
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:07 AM
Jul 2020

Andrew McCabe on CNN just now spoke about this that complicates investigation

Johnny2X2X

(18,973 posts)
16. Russian mob
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:35 AM
Jul 2020

The Deutche Bank cases are all about money laundering for the Russian mob which of course involves Trump and to a lesser degree Epstein. The judge would have say so on discovery and what gets made public.

And with William Barr's connections to Epstein, he should recuse himself from any oversight of this, of course he won't though.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
17. Well, it's certainly doesn't sound random.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:37 AM
Jul 2020

As to why husband and son were shot and not the judge? We don't know who was the actual target. Also, sounds like husband was the one who opened the door. And son came down the stairs when he heard commosion.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
19. This is a message to all
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:36 AM
Jul 2020

…Federal judges. About any Epstein matters and other corruption cases.

Will they give 24 hour protection to the next judge on the case?

Kaleva

(36,259 posts)
21. Could have been a hit on the husband who was a prominent lawyer in his own right.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:03 PM
Jul 2020

Son was shot because he ran to the aid of his father. Shooter made no attempt to search for the judge.

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