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SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:46 AM Jul 2020

Trump didn't "ace" his cognitive assessment

He lies all the time and he is lying now.

His obsession with tell and retelling this lie shows how much his struggle with this dementia assessment bothered him. He told Wallace yesterday that “you couldn’t answer the last five questions” which of course meant that was what he couldn’t do.

His projections and accusations against others are always a tell.

He failed the dementia cognitive assessment.

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Trump didn't "ace" his cognitive assessment (Original Post) SoonerPride Jul 2020 OP
Very Likely oswaldactedalone Jul 2020 #1
I was present when my wife was given this identical test. olegramps Jul 2020 #45
He Said RobinA Jul 2020 #69
He also said that the doctors were all impressed with how well he did AdamGG Jul 2020 #96
Maybe they were impressed sssed that he was not... 3catwoman3 Jul 2020 #103
My mother's doctors always tell her that she's done well. yardwork Jul 2020 #108
I know this is scary. Oppaloopa Jul 2020 #99
He probably didn't lie. Baitball Blogger Jul 2020 #2
That's so meta. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #42
Honestly thats usually the case quakerboy Jul 2020 #113
Pure projection Kitchari Jul 2020 #3
It's the same thing he will say when he loses in November SoonerPride Jul 2020 #4
Or, in a famous piece of doublethink Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2020 #16
And screw EastAsia! jayschool2013 Jul 2020 #31
We're at war with EurAsia. Didn't you get the memo? Cyrano Jul 2020 #40
Winston Smith is working on an accurate, revised and updated report. Permanut Jul 2020 #77
He said DR's never saw results like that. I thought WHY???????? Oppaloopa Jul 2020 #100
A knee-jerk self-aggrandizing lie Kitchari Jul 2020 #107
When he sits for an interview, Scarsdale Jul 2020 #5
If his lips are moving Sherman A1 Jul 2020 #6
The fact they felt the need to give it to him in the first place. gordianot Jul 2020 #7
hell, i don't even believe he took such a test. KG Jul 2020 #8
and KG hits the nail on the head! He never took any test. Another lie. BamaRefugee Jul 2020 #85
Here's what I think happened. Mr.Bill Jul 2020 #94
I wish I could see the test. panader0 Jul 2020 #9
Here it is SoonerPride Jul 2020 #13
I did recognize all three zoo animals... TomVilmer Jul 2020 #17
Just like Sarah Palin showed us! LOL. Ilsa Jul 2020 #28
I failed. I moonscape Jul 2020 #97
Similar to the oral test given to my dad to ascertain his dementia. panader0 Jul 2020 #24
My MIL couldn't pull his name Ilsa Jul 2020 #33
I have many horror stories of my father's slide into dementia. panader0 Jul 2020 #35
I wonder if anyone takes the supplement Prevagen Oppaloopa Jul 2020 #101
Damn, that's tougher than I thought! Pacifist Patriot Jul 2020 #26
Words beginning with f central scrutinizer Jul 2020 #76
Fisting, fapping, foul, farting, flatulence, Wednesdays Jul 2020 #82
Financialcrime. BamaRefugee Jul 2020 #86
Fuckwit. MontanaMama Jul 2020 #102
Dumbass Trump referred to "35 questions." Ilsa Jul 2020 #81
Poke around on line there're folks that have posted the 2 or three common tests uses usaf-vet Jul 2020 #18
Counting Backwards Should Be Easy For Him... smb Jul 2020 #23
Folks, here we have today's winner of the internet. oldsoftie Jul 2020 #56
I am Rebl2 Jul 2020 #58
What about reciting the alphabet backwards? robbob Jul 2020 #111
I would Rebl2 Jul 2020 #117
I Always Wonder RobinA Jul 2020 #70
In high school, I was a TA for a remedial math class, and I hated having to teach the students deurbano Jul 2020 #95
When he says "a lot of people don't know this..." what he really means "I just learned this"... NurseJackie Jul 2020 #10
My thoughts exactly ronatchig Jul 2020 #11
How come he found naming at least 11 'F' words hard? Aviation Pro Jul 2020 #12
Believe it or not people freeze PCIntern Jul 2020 #14
Yeah, I was slowly bringing up words like "fenestration," Ilsa Jul 2020 #21
I had the exact same issue: PCIntern Jul 2020 #22
Yep. "Geez, who am I trying to impress?" LOL. nt Ilsa Jul 2020 #27
F words are pretty easy notKeith Jul 2020 #29
You forgot rusty fender Jul 2020 #72
Fuscous unc70 Jul 2020 #34
A lot of my f-words were four letters, because I was thinking of Trump. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #46
My brain is really context-sensitive. unblock Jul 2020 #48
Me too intrepidity Jul 2020 #49
Don't know. Oh, also, I've met famous people in real life and didn't recognize them unblock Jul 2020 #55
Is that face blindness? intrepidity Jul 2020 #59
Clearly some people are wired differently. unblock Jul 2020 #64
Betting that she's more right-brain dominant Wednesdays Jul 2020 #83
Actually I'm the lefty, she's a righty. unblock Jul 2020 #87
To sum up my analysis of your post: PCIntern Jul 2020 #52
Interesting RobinA Jul 2020 #71
Navigating by car can be the same thing. unblock Jul 2020 #73
Me too. I ran into my Ilsa Jul 2020 #80
My memory has always been bad. As a moonscape Jul 2020 #98
"high functioning people..." jcgoldie Jul 2020 #63
Point well-taken!!! PCIntern Jul 2020 #68
LOL, ok! nt USALiberal Jul 2020 #41
He should at least know these from people talking about HIM... Chiyo-chichi Jul 2020 #50
Guaranteed he couldn't recall the words later. PCIntern Jul 2020 #15
That's what I figured. They're asked immediately, and then asked again Buns_of_Fire Jul 2020 #19
Here this ought to help..... IowaGuy Jul 2020 #53
So a classic technique i was taught is to make up a silly story. drray23 Jul 2020 #109
He can't recall the beginning of a sentence by the time he's halfway through it. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #47
What 5 questions did he consider hard? mercuryblues Jul 2020 #20
What the nimrod doesn't understand is there isn't a wrong answer for some of those tough questions Brother Buzz Jul 2020 #75
At 72, I start messing up at the memory part. My memory is real good in real life, but the test LiberalArkie Jul 2020 #25
he says he scored a 35..... out of 30??? study war no more Jul 2020 #30
Of course trump failed this test Gothmog Jul 2020 #32
The count backward by 7s stumps me. I have to almost visualize it in my head to Grammy23 Jul 2020 #36
My husband and I were speaking of the counting backward one karynnj Jul 2020 #65
"dimple arithmetic errors" are the cutest kind. tclambert Jul 2020 #92
Ha ha. This shows I also make simple spelling errors! :-) karynnj Jul 2020 #105
Do you have a link to the failed test story? nt USALiberal Jul 2020 #37
I've had several brain injuries and I aced it 1plus1equals1 Jul 2020 #38
Most likely. Laelth Jul 2020 #39
Quite likely. But if he couldn't answer such simple questions...it is terrifying. Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #43
And watch in 6 months they will try to say they never supported him SoonerPride Jul 2020 #44
Guaranteed that's what they will do. wnylib Jul 2020 #61
I will never forgive any republican ever SoonerPride Jul 2020 #84
The list and the quotes are not reminders wnylib Jul 2020 #93
I am betting his medical team lied to him about the test ... yuiyoshida Jul 2020 #51
They need to ask him the question "How do you spell ace?" whopis01 Jul 2020 #54
I just wanna know... Happy Hoosier Jul 2020 #57
Someone who failed the test. SoonerPride Jul 2020 #60
BOOM. NT Happy Hoosier Jul 2020 #62
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2020 #78
...... Kingofalldems Jul 2020 #66
hahahahahhahahah SoonerPride Jul 2020 #67
He got a big "F" Blue Owl Jul 2020 #74
Hahahahaha SoonerPride Jul 2020 #79
The last to hard questions are: LakeArenal Jul 2020 #88
When I entered high school at 14 Mr.Bill Jul 2020 #89
Kick Hekate Jul 2020 #90
But I thought he pulled an all-nighter before the test. Sneederbunk Jul 2020 #91
I don't think he even knows what the test is for. warmfeet Jul 2020 #104
It was actually a club lame54 Jul 2020 #106
He is establishing a defense gldstwmn Jul 2020 #110
Is it November yet? Joinfortmill Jul 2020 #112
It can't come soon enough. SoonerPride Jul 2020 #116
If he brings this up again with any journalist, their next question should be... Josiesdad Jul 2020 #114
"What a nasty question. You are a terrible person!" SoonerPride Jul 2020 #115

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
45. I was present when my wife was given this identical test.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:11 AM
Jul 2020

She had dementia and was diagnosed as having Alzheimer's disease. Even though she was suffering from progressive dementia at first she was able to correctly answer the test with few errors. It is a standard test that was given to her at every appointment every twelve months by a board certified Neurologist M.D. This test is extremely easy for anyone with normal functioning mental capacity. It has both a visual and audio tests that even young children can easily pass. The most difficult part was to remember a short list of objects, colors at first was able to recall most of the times. As the disease progressed she had increasing difficulty especially the verbal part. That Trump would attempt to claim that the test was difficult is only evidence that his mental ability is not up to normal standards.

AdamGG

(1,288 posts)
96. He also said that the doctors were all impressed with how well he did
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:42 PM
Jul 2020

That they said that people usually don't do as well as he did.

It's hard to separate out his usual ridiculous hyperbole from whether he's covering up for being unable to perform the test. Either way, he needs to be gone ASAP.

3catwoman3

(23,973 posts)
103. Maybe they were impressed sssed that he was not...
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:58 PM
Jul 2020

...drooling and peeing his pants.

AFAIK, cognitive tests are not administered just for the fun of it.

yardwork

(61,592 posts)
108. My mother's doctors always tell her that she's done well.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:54 PM
Jul 2020

Even when she can't answer the questions, they smile and say she's doing just fine.

Oppaloopa

(867 posts)
99. I know this is scary.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:24 PM
Jul 2020

The difference with him and Regan who also had dementia while in office Is Regan had people who cared about him to help him. When you are a Narcissist Bully you don't have that.

quakerboy

(13,919 posts)
113. Honestly thats usually the case
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 02:40 AM
Jul 2020

The Dr gives the test in the most friendly way possible, trying to keep it from being adversarial so that they can get an accurate result, and gives a result, again usually trying to keep it non adversarial (and few people take being told their brains are declining any way other than negatively). At the point such tests are needed, its often a matter of letting responsible parties know how far things have gotten.

That non adversarial approach Is an attempt not to upset the person being tested, and emotions stick better than facts, especially when someone has cognitive decline, so actual scores or bland statements about results usually vanish, and in short order the person tested will take the lack of negative emotion surrounding the test to mean they passed and everyone is wrong about their cognitive decline.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
4. It's the same thing he will say when he loses in November
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:03 AM
Jul 2020

I didn’t lose. I won.

I didn’t fail the cognitive test. I aced it.

It is upside down bizarro world.

Black is white.

Up is down.

Trump is smart.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
16. Or, in a famous piece of doublethink
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:25 AM
Jul 2020

War is peace, freedom is slavery, and (especially where Trump and his followers are concerned) ignorance is strength.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
7. The fact they felt the need to give it to him in the first place.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:07 AM
Jul 2020

It then follows; When, Where, Who, and Why? Of course Wallace couldn’t pull off the gotcha questions it is dangerous to rouse a Psychopath.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
94. Here's what I think happened.
Reply to KG (Reply #8)
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:54 PM
Jul 2020

That day they threw him into an SUV ad rushed him to Walter Reed was because he had had a stroke that left him fairly incoherent, which would not be unusual. In a few hours and with some medication and monitoring he mostly recovered, which is also not unusual. I doubt this was the first time this happened, and it won't be the last.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
28. Just like Sarah Palin showed us! LOL.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:15 AM
Jul 2020

I wouldn't want to be president of a country that elected me president!

panader0

(25,816 posts)
24. Similar to the oral test given to my dad to ascertain his dementia.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:54 AM
Jul 2020

He was asked who the current president was and didn't know. (It was Bush at the time)
He was told three words and to remember them. A minute later, when asked to repeat them, he said
"What three words?" I took him to the doctor because he refused to quit driving. After the exam, the
doctor told him to give up the keys. He cussed "that stupid doctor!" as I drove him home.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
33. My MIL couldn't pull his name
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:24 AM
Jul 2020

out of her brain for five minutes, but I know she could visualize him.

She is struggling finding words. The other day she came upstairs from her basement apartment asking frantically for her son, yelling "he needs to come see this! It's horrible!" I asked her "what? Something on the news?" She said, "No, no. It's awful. He needs to see this." My husband (her son) wasn't here, so I ran downstairs to discover the basement was flooding. The sump pump had stopped working (the electrical plug wasn't in far enough to complete the circuit). She was unable to tell me what the problem was ("The basement is flooding&quot .

panader0

(25,816 posts)
35. I have many horror stories of my father's slide into dementia.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:32 AM
Jul 2020

My brother, who at 72 is three years older than I am, is in in a home for early onset dementia.
Very sad to see. I will check out on my own before I let that take me. I'm hoping I take after
my mom's side of the family that stayed sharp until the end.

Oppaloopa

(867 posts)
101. I wonder if anyone takes the supplement Prevagen
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:31 PM
Jul 2020

My Mother had it in her late 80's her grandmother had it

Wednesdays

(17,344 posts)
82. Fisting, fapping, foul, farting, flatulence,
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:38 PM
Jul 2020

Filthy, fornication.

You know. All words tRump's familiar with.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
81. Dumbass Trump referred to "35 questions."
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 02:51 PM
Jul 2020

Did he really just mean 30 points? Is there another cognitive exam with "35 questions"?

usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
18. Poke around on line there're folks that have posted the 2 or three common tests uses
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:34 AM
Jul 2020

You'll find it. Most people say he would have failed with the count backward by sevens. That took me a minute until I figured the repetitive pattern.

smb

(3,471 posts)
23. Counting Backwards Should Be Easy For Him...
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:50 AM
Jul 2020

...all he has to do is repeat his last batch of public approval ratings.

Rebl2

(13,492 posts)
58. I am
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:52 AM
Jul 2020

horrible at counting backwards. When I was in my early 20’s a fellow student was doing a psychology experiment on memory retention and other tests like counting backwards like they do on dementia tests. The counting backwards test I failed miserably. Subtracting has always been a problem for me. Retaining words I am better at.

robbob

(3,527 posts)
111. What about reciting the alphabet backwards?
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:00 PM
Jul 2020

I can’t do it! Not without mentally reciting a forward snippet to get me started. “W-X-Y-Z...ok, so Z...Y...um (wxyz), um X, W (T-U-V) umm...V?...”

And so on. Kind of freaks me out that something so easy for myself and every child over the age of 4 to recite going forward becomes a tangled mess to reverse. I mean, I can COUNT backwards...

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
70. I Always Wonder
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:22 PM
Jul 2020

why they have serial 7s in these tests. To me it's math, not cognition. I could foresee myself not being able to do them under a lot of situations that wouldn't really be cognitive.

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
95. In high school, I was a TA for a remedial math class, and I hated having to teach the students
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:59 PM
Jul 2020

how to make change since I wasn't good at "performing" with people watching me. After realizing how much I sucked at this low level skill when having to perform it with an audience, I tried to avoid any jobs that involved making change!

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
10. When he says "a lot of people don't know this..." what he really means "I just learned this"...
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:10 AM
Jul 2020

When he says "a lot of people don't know this..." what he really means "I just learned this"... or "here's a fact I didn't know and I'll be surprised if you know it too".

Aviation Pro

(12,151 posts)
12. How come he found naming at least 11 'F' words hard?
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:12 AM
Jul 2020

I barely got past three letter words using ‘f(vowel)’ as a prefix.

Fab, fad, fan, far, fat, fax, fed, fez, fib, fig, fin, fit, fix, you get the point.

PCIntern

(25,534 posts)
14. Believe it or not people freeze
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:18 AM
Jul 2020

I have heard the story many times. High functioning people when asked to name words beginning with a given letter stop dead In their tracks. There is a measure of testing anxiety with these tests, I’m not saying that that is what the problem was with you know who, but many people don’t handle the test well.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
21. Yeah, I was slowly bringing up words like "fenestration,"
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:43 AM
Jul 2020

and "farthingales**," while fax, fib, fix, etc eluded me until I chilled.

**I enjoy reading novels that may have detail on fashion.

PCIntern

(25,534 posts)
22. I had the exact same issue:
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:45 AM
Jul 2020

All these esoteric words I was fumbling for. I felt like such an asshole

notKeith

(138 posts)
29. F words are pretty easy
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:16 AM
Jul 2020

fuck fucks fucker fuckers fucked fucking fucktard fuckwit fuckhead fuckwad fuckmate

...he replied, fuckishly.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
46. A lot of my f-words were four letters, because I was thinking of Trump.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:12 AM
Jul 2020

fuck fart fool fist flip flop fate fail faux fade fans fink flap

unblock

(52,196 posts)
48. My brain is really context-sensitive.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:13 AM
Jul 2020

I sometimes have a really hard time doing mental tasks in the "wrong" place.

My mental database of people, for instance, is very location dependent. At work I know literally everyone in the company (about 50 people). But if I run into one of them in the grocery store, often I can't come up with their name.

I'm quite good at taking written tests. But asked the same question out loud by an actual human, I often completely blank. Many times, I know the answer even before the question is done, but by the time they finish and the spotlight is on me to answer, I've completely lost it.

At work, often I can't figure something out in a meeting until I get back to my office and look at my laptop. Then it instantly hits me.


So this test looks really easy on paper, but I think if I had an emergency and was in a hospital and people gave me that test, it would be a different story.


That said, I'd know better than to brag about not having dain bramage!

intrepidity

(7,294 posts)
49. Me too
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:27 AM
Jul 2020

I've never heard it described so accurately, but that is me too. Surely it means something, in terms of an organic cause?

unblock

(52,196 posts)
55. Don't know. Oh, also, I've met famous people in real life and didn't recognize them
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:46 AM
Jul 2020

Mrs. Unblock signed me up once for the annual New York times crossword puzzle tournament that will shortz, the editor, hosts each year.

I sat directly across from an older gent with shockingly white hair, chatting and doing crosswords for 3 hours. During breaks people would come up to him and thank him for all he's done and ask his autograph. So I knew he was famous but I couldn't place him. I assumed he was some local celebrity, a former mayor maybe.

When it was nearly over mrs. Unblock finally has a chance to pull me aside. She was so impressed at how totally cool I was chatting with phil Donahue, who I had only seen on tv about a million times.

As soon as she said it, it became instantly obvious. And it's not like he looked any different in real life. Same very distinctive features. But it didn't click until she told me.

intrepidity

(7,294 posts)
59. Is that face blindness?
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:57 AM
Jul 2020

I have always been mystified how police sketches of suspects come to be. I'd like to see one of those artists try to interview me, lol. A complete mystery.

"Did their nose look like this, or this?"

"...Yes?..."

unblock

(52,196 posts)
64. Clearly some people are wired differently.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:13 AM
Jul 2020

Watching tv, mrs. Unblock can instantly spot a familiar actor the instant even half of their face is visible on screen. She'll pause the show right there and ask me if I recognize them and of course I'm saying I haven't even seen their face yet, not that that's much help.

Usually I recognize them as familiar but can't place them. Finally she'll say it was the detective's boss from that police drama we saw five years ago. Or it was the guy who was in that *one* episode of sex and the city.

I'll check on imdb and of course she's always right.

*she* could give a great description of anyone for a sketch artist, I'm sure. Me, not so much.


We're still trying to figure out how to make a million off of this talent my wife has....

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
71. Interesting
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:33 PM
Jul 2020

I have the same problem with physical things. I was in a dance recital once and we learned that dance in one dance studio. I could do it in my sleep. When we went to do a run through prior to dress rehearsal we were in the big studio. The music started and I had no expectation of having a problem, but I could not do it AT ALL. And it wasn't a hard dance. The only thing I could figure was that I was unconsciously using sight cues based on the original studio to know what to do next. Without my sight cues I was an idiot.

I also don't learn things well when there is no context for the new information. Good bye being multilingual. Despite having an excellent memory, I can't learn another language to save my life.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
73. Navigating by car can be the same thing.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:44 PM
Jul 2020

I can take a route 100 times, then someone paints their house or chops down a tree and I miss my turn.

Fortunately there's gps these days!

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
80. Me too. I ran into my
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 02:42 PM
Jul 2020

gynecologist walking in the mall. I didn't recognize him because I usually see his face several inches over a blue paper sheet that's draped over my hips and apart knees.

I have trouble recognizing "types". On a Monday, a young man with dirty blond hair, thin whiskers, and carrying an extra 40 pounds on a 5'9" frame came by the house for a maintenance issue. Three days later, another guy meeting that description came by to sell a roofing job to us. I thought he was the same guy as Monday. I can't tell their faces apart. I can't remember them until I've spent a lot of time getting to know them.

But I can tell a rhino from a camel.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
98. My memory has always been bad. As a
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:52 PM
Jul 2020

kid I was terrible at the memory card game Concentration. It’s maybe why I loved math so much; it involved figuring things out vs memory.

The part I would likely fail is the 5 word thing, remembering after 5 min. My mom had alzheimer’s so I know a lot about dementia. I don’t have it yet, but my memory is horrid. I can remember experiences easily, conversations, etc ... but random data? Nope.

Chiyo-chichi

(3,578 posts)
50. He should at least know these from people talking about HIM...
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:29 AM
Jul 2020

fat
fraud
fake
false
flimflam
failure
fascist
feckless
feebleminded
felon
fiasco
FOOL!


Buns_of_Fire

(17,175 posts)
19. That's what I figured. They're asked immediately, and then asked again
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:35 AM
Jul 2020

at the end. I first thought, when I glanced at the test, that the last five were the ones about the date and do you know where you are. Then I broke down and read the instructions.

And now I'm afraid I've got a brainworm that's going to be whispering "face, velvet, church, daisy, red" in my ear all day.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
109. So a classic technique i was taught is to make up a silly story.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:54 PM
Jul 2020

linking the worlds together. This way your brain will associate the images of your silly story with the words. You will be able to repeat them forward and backward. I can do two dozens easily.

For example :

The man with a velvet mask stood in front of the Church holding a daisy in his blood red hand.

mercuryblues

(14,530 posts)
20. What 5 questions did he consider hard?
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:41 AM
Jul 2020

How could he have scored the best ever on this this test? There is a finite score that cannot be exceeded. It's reasonable to say that millions of people have achieved a perfect score on it.

Why would DR's be surprised that the President of the United States passed this test? A test that any 10 year old could pass.


And that is why I know he is lying. Along with his constant bragging about how well he did and how no one else could answer the questions as well as he did.

It doesn't just bother him. Repeating the story over and over is also a sign of dementia.

Brother Buzz

(36,416 posts)
75. What the nimrod doesn't understand is there isn't a wrong answer for some of those tough questions
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 01:41 PM
Jul 2020

Think about it.

LiberalArkie

(15,713 posts)
25. At 72, I start messing up at the memory part. My memory is real good in real life, but the test
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:55 AM
Jul 2020

shows my doctor where I am and am I getting worse. Yes I am.. But she said I am pretty normal for my age.

BTW. Biden would have a problem starting at the memory part.. It is age related.

I would love to see Trump take an ethics test.

30. he says he scored a 35..... out of 30???
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:18 AM
Jul 2020

That's just like him to think he's the best of everything. I administer this test all the time in clinic and most people do NOT score a perfect score (30). Even young people with full cognitive function somtimes miss something - like remembering the five words after I've tripped them up with lots of other questions. I know the answers and I still wouldn't score a perfect score.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
36. The count backward by 7s stumps me. I have to almost visualize it in my head to
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:33 AM
Jul 2020

do it accurately. But that is nothing new for me. Math has always been my weakest subject — even the fairly simple stuff. It bugs me that math never became simple for me but that is just how it is for some of us. I can do the count backward bit but it just takes me slightly longer and my anxiety is through the roof!

What I have to remind myself is that the test is looking for new deficiencies. Identifying Cognitive decline is the point of the test. You might be a PhD level mathematician and at some point start losing the ability to do the simple tasks. It is an indicator of processing issues in the brain.

tRump’s crowing about his test results (which is likely a lie) is just more of the pathology he has had all along. His go to strategy is always to lie about anything and everything if he thinks it makes him look better. No one is saying that tRump is completely demented. He is showing signs that he headed that way. So he can brag all he wants. The truth will be known and there is not much he can do about it — except Continue to lie his ass off.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
65. My husband and I were speaking of the counting backward one
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:29 AM
Jul 2020

Both of us have advanced degrees in math, but he has always been incredible doing mental math. He has for years been surprised that over time fewer young people can easily make change. He explained many tricks for easily doing computations in your head to our three daughters. I never had the same innate ability that he had to do computations in my head.

His immediate answer was to rattle off the numbers, far faster than I could. I think if I were given the test, I would place needless pressure on myself to answer quickly possibly leading to dimple arithmetic errors. He As explained that he could do it quickly by subtracting10 and then adding three. I tried and it is easier, but I still was way slower than him.

1plus1equals1

(205 posts)
38. I've had several brain injuries and I aced it
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:42 AM
Jul 2020

Yep, I've had five brain injuries in my life and my doctor wanted to do the test due to some issues I was having with short-term memory. So, after ten hours of cognitive testing I didn't break anything and I can identify pictures of common animals. Wow, I not only aced it I'm a calm genius; see, there's hope for all of us and I'm now proof of that.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
39. Most likely.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:53 AM
Jul 2020

The sequence of five words that one must remember is rather difficult. I doubt that Trump could do it.

-Laelth

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
43. Quite likely. But if he couldn't answer such simple questions...it is terrifying.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:08 AM
Jul 2020

He has the nuclear codes. The Republicans have truly let the country down by allowing this demented mad man to remain president.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
44. And watch in 6 months they will try to say they never supported him
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:10 AM
Jul 2020

They will pivot and try to pretend trump and trumpism never happened.

wnylib

(21,432 posts)
61. Guaranteed that's what they will do.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:03 AM
Jul 2020

So remember their names and have copies of their quotes, either on video or in manuscript form to remind them and others of their part in making America fascist.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
84. I will never forgive any republican ever
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:48 PM
Jul 2020

I won't need to keep a list or remember.

They are all complicit.

They can never be rehabilitated and welcomed back into polite society ever again.

EVER

wnylib

(21,432 posts)
93. The list and the quotes are not reminders
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:52 PM
Jul 2020

for you. They are proof to throw in the face of the deniers when they try to con others into believing that they were never part of the Trump fascism machine.

whopis01

(3,510 posts)
54. They need to ask him the question "How do you spell ace?"
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:45 AM
Jul 2020

I'm betting that he saw the doctor's note and thought it said "This guy is a total ace".

Happy Hoosier

(7,286 posts)
57. I just wanna know...
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:49 AM
Jul 2020

... who the fuck brags about "acing" a cognitive function test anyway? That's like bragging that you leg isn't broken.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
89. When I entered high school at 14
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:27 PM
Jul 2020

my IQ was tested and it was 143, which made me not have much faith in IQ tests.

I'm going to be 67 nine days from now and I figure I have drank and drugged away about 25 of those points, and I'm still smarter than anyone in the Trump family.

And remember Trump claims to have never drank or used drugs. I dropped LSD over 100 times in the early 70s.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
104. I don't think he even knows what the test is for.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:19 PM
Jul 2020

The fact that he was even asked to take this test means that at least one doctor, a very important doctor, thinks he may be cognitively impaired. Which, of course, he is (just my opinion).

Is he lying about his test results? Chances are very good that he is lying. His lies are well documented.

Josiesdad

(44 posts)
114. If he brings this up again with any journalist, their next question should be...
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 07:27 AM
Jul 2020

They should ask him...

"That is very nice Mr President. Will you release the Doctors that gave you this test from their NDAs and give them permission to talk to us about the test and your session with them?"

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