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Meridith McGraw
@meridithmcgraw
Former Ohio Gov. John Kasich, a Republican and frequent Trump critic, has been approached and is expected to speak at the Democratic National Convention on Bidens behalf next month
panader0
(25,816 posts)rurallib
(62,415 posts)lark
(23,099 posts)I disagree with having Kaisch speak, he is anti-abortion and I doubt he supports BLM. Damn.
Alliepoo
(2,217 posts)Hes a wolf in sheeps clothing. Not to be trusted.
lark
(23,099 posts)I suspected he had more faults than listed, but I only specified what I knew for sure. Either way, we both agree Biden should NOT have him speaking, especially since he could easily be the person his VP has to beat in 2024 or 2028.
Volaris
(10,271 posts)But, if hes speaking on Bidens stage, I can assume AT LEAST that his wife doesnt keep his balls in a jar on the mantle...so theres that?
Ohiogal
(31,998 posts)Most Dems will tolerate him politely, roll their eyes, then usher him off the stage, and forget about him.
Backseat Driver
(4,392 posts)from our best practice digital stay-at-home convention in the time of CoVid and inviting phone-in REPUG delegate nomination votes? Well, that would surely confound and repudiate the cult's pick and a few GOP burnt-out-on-stupidity(?). Hmmm...are there many or ANY? Hey, Joe, let's show 'em what they could have had in their pop-up toaster? Still have? - BLEACH and HYDROCLOROQUINE internal sanitizers versus a double helping menu of the so sickly sweet and sanitizing DYNAMIC-OHIO-DUO of GOP WAFFLE-(R)S and syrup!
Touche' Joe! when that happens. Unprecedented, no?
I hoping that all DEMS knows one cannot reason with GOP faithful (even when they dissent/waffle on their party leadership) no matter what spews out their mouths: SALACIOUS LIES or DELICIOUS WAFFLES filled in with the little cavities with a slippery, buttery and tasty but oily enhancement and PC syrup.
If this or even just the endorsement happens, I'll be laughing hard at "owning the Oranges (not anywhere close to "these apples"--just elephants=oranges) and they don't mix! (and with even more confidence in laughing last).
Alliepoo
(2,217 posts)To replace dump on the ticket should they decide hes become too much of a liability. Instead of spineless Dewine as a running mate I figured theyd go for Nikki Haley.
Auggie
(31,169 posts)Greybnk48
(10,168 posts)No thanks!
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)...Kasich is a little hard to swallow for many many Democrats I would think and hope...
Elected to Congress and then worked for Goldman Sachs for $500,000 a year. Was then promptly elected to Governor for 2 terms. Gee, I wonder who made out during those years.
DIVINEprividence
(443 posts)The stakes are so high, Kasich, The Lincoln Project, never trumpers, I welcome them all aboard the Biden train. Trump has to be crushed. It is a national security issue. I dont agree with everything these guys are for, but at least they are true patriots and have some integrity. Trump has been such a clown show, Reagan would be a Democrat or Never Trumper today. Democrats lost the South to the GOP with Johnson and civil rights and Trump is winning it back for us.
Tiger8
(432 posts)We are are Democrats and Republicans United Together to Defeat Fascism.
I dont like them. They dont like us. But at the end of the day, were all Americans. If Noam Chomsky and John Kasich can pick up the same Joe Biden sign....its like the guys on Flight 93 storming the cockpit door, LETS ROLL!
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)Trump has sullied the office. He has trashed institutional norms. He has also laid bare, the goals of conservatism, if not significantly challenged. Conservatives want a hierarchical society with rich, Christian, White men at the top, and all others working to serve the hierarchy. Trump has exposed that but in his loud, garish, and bumbling style, which has shown how little actual support that concept has. Conservatives have always had to manipulate language and emotions to further their interests because their actual ideas appeal to very few people. They have also always had the money, the funding to obfuscate and lie about their intentions, to recruit average people based on other ideas, like "religious freedom" (Christian dominance), "family values" (anti-LGBT, anti-feminism, etc...), "American values" (White Supremacy), etc... They know they cannot win by saying what they really want, so they have used this code and have advanced slowly over a long time. Trump pulled off the disguise because he is a sociopath.
These guys (Kasic and TLP) aren't renouncing conservatism. They are just upset that Trump is not following the more subtle way they are used to advancing its aims.
I think that we should use their help (though I do not like the idea of giving conservatives a platform at the DNC) but we should very much be on our guard as they will go right back to trashing liberalism once Trump is gone. Remember that they gerrymandered in 2010 and set up the problems we are facing now, way back in the 1970's.
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)Ohio.
Hes a Republiscum but not a vomit producing one. Expanded medicaid.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)
Lets look at just one issue: the right of women in Ohio to get an abortion when they need one. As governor, Kasich has done everything in his power to put roadblock after roadblock in their way.
Kasich has worked with the legislature to jam some of the nations most restrictive anti-abortion policies into the states budget (a neat trick that makes them easier to pass).
In 2013, the budget defunded Planned Parenthood, eliminating $1.4 million in federal funds that went toward a wide variety of health care services and not a penny toward abortion, since federal dollars cant pay for abortion anyway.
That same budget funded so-called crisis pregnancy centers, fake health clinics that offer free pregnancy tests and sometimes ultrasounds to draw women in the door, where counselors ply them with false information claiming abortion causes everything from breast cancer to cooties.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/moderate-john-kasich-is-actually-terrifying-226249/
in2herbs
(2,945 posts)administration -- and that he would consider it --- I hope Biden thinks about this really hard. Kasich is the farthest a republican can get from D values. WTF are his people thinking!! You want the black and women's vote and Kasich is going to speak??? There is a low chance that an R will be watching/listening to the D convention.
The other day Biden also talked about repealing the trump tax cuts, but his repeal was not even half of the tax cut the 1% got. Biden better do better.
Lonestarblue
(9,988 posts)Kasich is popular in Ohio right now because he has handled the virus response fairly well. We can all hold our noses, but if he helps deliver Ohios electoral votes for Biden, Ill be happy. With this election, its more important to have overwhelming support for Biden to counter Republican cheating. Ill accept wherever that support comes from. It doesnt mean Ive changed my views. It just means a better chance of winning.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)An abortion ban in the back door deciding they were not essential procedures. He backed off that fairly quickly.
Lonestarblue
(9,988 posts)KS Toronado
(17,235 posts)What if former president G W Bush wanted to come and warn people about how dangerous 4
more years of trumpig would be? Anybody promoting Biden should be welcomed. IMHO.