Gaslighter -- Mika blames Hillary for not warning us about Trump

[CatWoman]

Astonished by a president who has deliberately made every wrong move when faced with a crippling pandemic, and who refuses to change course as the carnage mounts, media players continue to express shock at Trump's behavior. Insisting it was impossible to tell in 2016 that Trump's irrational and erratic behavior would create so much death and destruction, the preferred talking point for many is that nobody could've have predicted Trump's presidency would be this horrific.

It’s extraordinary for media professionals who covered the 2016 campaign to now express wonderment at the predictably tragic consequences of Trump's victory. But the denial remains firm. On Friday, MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski went one step further. Not only did she insist Trump's monstrous, psychopathic behavior was unknowable, she specifically called out Hillary Clinton for failing to warn us in 2016.

"We have learned he has no balance, that he was way worse than anybody thought he would ever be," Brzezinski said, referring to Trump's corruption and lawbreaking. "We never though that we'd be seeing this. Nobody did. And it's not just us. It's Hillary Clinton, who went to parties with him."

This is the definition of gaslighting — the purposeful erasing of history. In this case, it's Brzezinski trying to erase the central role she played in that history. Insisting Clinton didn't know about Trump’s dangerous ways or warn us four years ago is categorically false. (She called him "dangerously incoherent.&quot The reason Brzezinski might have missed Clinton's warnings was because she was relentlessly bashing Clinton during the campaign, while propping up Trump's run.

The fact remains that the press was central to Trump's victory, as they often treated him like a celebrity and ceaselessly attacked his opponent — a stunning media double standard. Yet to this day, most major players have refused to acknowledge their role in creating the careening Trump presidency. And some like Brzezinski want to disappear their role, while blaming Clinton in the process.

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[grumpyduck]

1. Mika, STFU.

If Hillary had tried to warn us, as you called it, you would have been among the first to say she was ull of shit.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

5. And of course she did

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

2. "....., who went to parties with him.". And they say irony isn't dead.... nt

[JHB]

13. We're any of those Mika's own parties?

Mika's been in New York long enough to not have any illusions about Trump, but she did anyway. Meanwhile, Hillary had a lot more on her plate than she did.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

14. These people are truly shameless. Her and her husband would flat out

giggle off camera talking about not asking any "tough questions".

[Hortensis]

50. Remember her bragging about how she'd blown hot on Trump

to get him all worked up, sure of her admiration? This was after they'd help secure the 2016 sweep that increased Republican power and were publicly turning on clueless Trump himself. Who, of course, responded to her jeering at him as a man by ragging on her bleeding.

[samnsara]

3. ummm..Hillary warned ME!

[llashram]

4. what the hell@!!!

she and her counterpart were for trump for the longest. Hillary said over snd over that trump was a dangerous sociopath. That's not a quote. But Mika, please stop it. The idiots that follow you might turn into ass-kissing sycophants bravo-ing your every word, not her. You and your counterpart can go to hell

[area51]

6. Mika needed Hillary to warn her, when all she had to do was google to

find out about Trump?

[deminks]

7. Enablers

Mika forgets her worth as a sycophant.

Donald Trump to MSNBC hosts: 'You guys have been supporters'

https://money.cnn.com/2016/02/10/media/donald-trump-morning-joe/index.html

OTOH, Mika would do anything, and I mean anything, to blame Hillary.

[klook]

30. +1.

Mika & Joe played a very damaging role by helping to legitimize Trump.

[Rebl2]

38. That is

for sure. They were pro trump in the beginning. In fact I thought they went to one of trumps inaugural parties. I know they were friends at one time. Hillary on the other hand did warn us about the orange bloated trump time and time again. I have no respect for Mika. Also the way she treated Joe Biden a couple of months ago is unforgivable. Hope he never goes on their show again.

[robleb]

36. Mika! Mika! GET LOST!

she spins her web based on who her father was. she has no credibility and no journalistic cred. She is a sham.

[SharonClark]

43. Well said.

[demigoddess]

8. Still bashing Hillary. Is she jealous of Hillary or something????

[JI7]

9. that's fucked up, Hopefully someone calls out her bs to her face

but I don't see it happening.

[madaboutharry]

10. In my opinion, I think you have misinterpreted what Mika said.

"We never though that we'd be seeing this. Nobody did. And it's not just us. It's Hillary Clinton, who went to parties with him."

Mika is saying here that neither she nor Joe nor Hillary Clinton would have thought it would be this bad, that no one who knew him could know he is this bat shit crazy.

[brush]

19. Not at all. Mika and Joe gave trump huge swatches or air time...

when he would call in to their show. They laughed and joked with him and were always welcoming him on the air. Whereas Hillary warned us on stage during the debates that he was a puppet of Putin.

I repeat, Hillary warned us and Joe and Mika gave trump tons of free airtime. Re-writing history does not work. People have memories.

[Rebl2]

42. So did

the Today show. Any time he called in, they let him on the air.

[JHB]

45. Even if that's the way she meant it, she's still projecting her own lack of imagination...

...onto everybody else in general, and onto Hillary in particular.

[Cosmocat]

49. Completely disagree, she is being wholly disingenuous

Yeah, Hillary socialized with him BEFORE he ran for POTUS.

At every point after that she relayed how horrible he would be as POTUS while Mika and Joe kissed his ass the first half of his campaign.

As one if them, I can say MANY knew and tried to tell people how flat fucking crazy he was.

Mikas position on this should be to fall on her own sword, "I took him too lightly and was one of those who enabled his getting elected.

[rogue emissary]

11. Wait, I thought the common wisdom was Hillary focused too much on Donny.

Wow Gaslighter is a perfect phrase for Mika

[StarfishSaver]

15. Wow

Hillary stopped going to parties with him long before Mika was canoodling with him on and off the set (Öh, Donald!".)
, running down to Mar-a-Lago trying to get interviews and spending more time on Hillary's emails than on Trump's corruption.

[crickets]

41. +1

[Hav]

16. I think there might be some feeling of guilt

behind this remarkable attempt to blame the person who stood in complete contrast to Trump when she ran against him. Clinton also wasn't the one propping him up and giving him all the free airtime to overshadow all the other repub candidates.

Either way, it's one of those stories that made me instinctively check the link to see whether it's from Borowitz or The Onion.

[Wellstone ruled]

17. Wow,talk about being tone deaf.

Caught that segment and first thoughts were,your Program Managers,directors and producers,are trying to save their faces. We will never forget how fours years ago how these two promoted,gave free Airtime in total support of Trump.

Hillary was warning the Nation as to what was coming if Trump got elected. All the Gaslighting in the world will not change the facts.

So,is the Ar bide program numbers going south for these two? Joe Scab seems to remake his Image every so often in order to think is a relevant person. Same for his Spouse.

We all do remember their trip to Mar-a-Swampo in order to have Audience with their King.

[JustAnotherGen]

18. She's complicit

I will bet - Mary Trump never goes on that show.

[orwell]

20. I lost customers...

...because every one I had contact with in 2016 had to listen to my diatribe about how unfit for office this asshole was. I have never been so outspoken in my life about politics with people other than my close friends or family. I got into a massive argument with my younger brother about this asshole at a family party when he said there was no difference between the parties. He was angry that Bernie lost. I was so angry with "the Berners" for not getting 110% behind Hilary that I alienated a lot of my pro-Bernie artist friends.

I live in a rural area that tilts conservative. I pissed off so many people that if I wasn't so needed in my community I would have lost my business because I was so opinionated and obnoxious about my hatred for this prick.

I still can not believe that the "grab 'em by the pussy" comment didn't torpedo his candidacy. I went into a severe depression for months after he won. My doctor told me that I had to stop paying attention to politics or I would suffer severe health consequences.

ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN COULD SEE WHAT A DISASTER HE WOULD BE! I was 100% right about every thing I predicted.

Fuck you Mika!

[Blue_true]

44. Yep to all of that. Hope you are better today, let's give that asshole a worldclass beating

in a little more than 3 months.

[orwell]

47. World class beating...

...sounds perfect..him, the horse he rode in on, and the Republican assholes that enabled him.

[Blue_true]

54. Yes to all of that. Well, maybe spare the horse(s), but beat the crap out of the rest. nt

[Maribelle]

21. Mika & Anyone who thought trump would NOT be this bad purposely ignored some of his bad parts.

Interview on CNN, May, 4, 2016

CNN's ANDERSON COOPER: So you have no problem with Japan and South Korea having nuclear weapons?TRUMP: At some point we have to say, you know what, we're better off if Japan protects itself against this maniac in North Korea, we're better off, frankly, if South Korea is going to start to protect itself, we have ...COOPER: Saudi Arabia, nuclear weapons?TRUMP: Saudi Arabia, absolutely.COOPER: You would be fine with them having nuclear weapons?TRUMP: No, not nuclear weapons, but they have to protect themselves or they have to pay us.Here's the thing, with Japan, they have to pay us or we have to let them protect themselves.COOPER: So if you said, Japan, yes, it's fine, you get nuclear weapons, South Korea, you as well, and Saudi Arabia says we want them, too?TRUMP: Can I be honest with you? It's going to happen anyway. It's going to happen anyway. It's only a question of time. They're going to start having them or we have to get rid of them entirely. But you have so many countries already, China, Pakistan, you have so many countries, Russia, you have so many countries right now that have them.Now, wouldn't you rather in a certain sense have Japan have nuclear weapons when North Korea has nuclear weapons? And they do have them. They absolutely have them. They can't — they have no carrier system yet but they will very soon.Wouldn't you rather have Japan, perhaps, they're over there, they're very close, they're very fearful of North Korea, and we're supposed to protect.

-- CNN Town Hall, March 29, 2016

Trump Even Said He Would Not Take Using a Nuclear Bomb in Europe Off the Table

"Europe is a big place. I’m not going to take cards off the table. We have nuclear capability. Now, our capability is going down rapidly because of what we’re doing. It’s in bad shape. The equipment is not properly maintained. There are all lot of talk about that. And that’s a bad thing, not a good thing. The last person to use nuclear would be Donald Trump. That’s the way I feel. I think it is a horrible thing. The thought of it is horrible. But I don’t want to take anything off the table. We have to negotiate. There will be times maybe when we’re going to be in a very deep, very difficult, very horrible negotiation. The last person — I’m not going to take it off the table. And I said it yesterday. And I stay with it." -- Interview on Fox News, March 31, 2016

[ProfessorGAC]

24. Yes, She Needed HRC To Tell Her?

It was glaringly obvious from jump.
Mika should not have needed ANYBODY to tell her how bad PINO was.
We all knew!

[Maribelle]

27. Precisely!

[LisaL]

22. I thought it was the onion.

Nowdays you can't even tell.

[Thekaspervote]

23. Oh geez...another idiot that can't read...or remember???

[bullwinkle428]

25. Hey Mika - remember when you and Joe went to Mar-A-Lago to celebrate

his victory at a New Year's Eve party for 2017?

That's where he got his "face-lift" material about you!!

[Miguelito Loveless]

26. Actually, she did warn us, Mika

You were just to busy sucking up to Trump to notice.

"Just imagine Trump in the Oval Office, facing a real crisis. We cannot afford that kind of risk."

"A man with a long history of racial discrimination, who traffics in dark conspiracy theories drawn from the pages of supermarket tabloids and the far reaches of the Internet, should never run our government or command our military."


"You encouraged espionage against our people. You are willing to spout the Putin line, sign up for his wish list: break up NATO, do whatever he wants to do," Clinton said. "You continue to get help from him because he has a very clear favorite in this race."

"You encouraged espionage against our people. You are willing to spout the Putin line, sign up for his wish list: break up NATO, do whatever he wants to do," Clinton said. "You continue to get help from him because he has a very clear favorite in this race."

"Well, that's because he'd rather have a puppet as president of the United States." (HRC referring to Putin's preference for Trump).

[SoonerPride]

28. I refuse to ever watch Mika and her fuckstick husband

Fuck them both with a cactus

Sideways

[iscooterliberally]

29. I seem to remember Hillary using the term 'basket of deplorables'.

She also mentioned something about getting 'baited by a tweet'. So I guess Mika wasn't paying attention for all of 2016.

[Sloumeau]

31. Hillary spent more than nine months

warning us about Donald Trump. What planet was Mika living on?

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

32. Mika

Go fuck yourself

[BGBD]

33. "You went to parties with him...

and I would know because I sent the invitations."

[kimbutgar]

34. She and her gross husband were kissing up to MF45's giant ass so much in 2016

That she and Joe both had glowing brown Noses.

STFU MIKA you knew what he was even then but you wanted media access with him.

[jorgevlorgan]

35. That was her entire campaign

[airmid]

37. Goods Gods...HRC wasn't even my first choice and she stood on stage and laid it out in every debate

while Joe and Mika bent over backward to accommodate Trump. They need to own it or shut their righteous indignation down.

[RhodeIslandOne]

39. LOL, seriously?

Meeeeker sucks. And Joe too.

[Blue_true]

40. Her and her then boyfriend promoted that monster at every turn in 2016.

They helped legitimize him instead of showing what a corrupt, inept fool he was.

They need to put themselves first in the blame line, because that is where they should be.

[Cha]

46. What A STUPID GASLIGHTING TWIT! Mika Had her EARS CLOSED!

[Hortensis]

52. I believe she heard it all and used it all. To elect Republicans.

Our actions reveal who we really are.

Remember her sitting alongside Scarborough in 2014, 2015, and 2016 trying to sell the really very nice Koch kleptocrats to the left? They're lifelong criminals who routinely thieved, sabotaged the efforts of distant communities to better local wellbeing, and literally killed "little" people in callous pursuit of riches.

And the same people are still up to it. The Republican Party advanced a lot of its anti-democratic goals using Trump, and now they're in damage control mode for what didn't work out so well.

“[Demonizing the Koch brothers] doesn’t even work in Manhattan where people thank God for David Koch. I mean, they do.… If you have cancer, you’ll be thanking David Koch. If you love the arts, you will thank David Koch. You will thank the Koch Brothers.”

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[Hekate]

48. I think that enabling duo comes on at 3:00 am in California. Lucky, lucky me. The little I've seen

..of them (clips here at DU, and a couple of brutal insomnia episodes where I turned on the TV) has been infuriating past belief. The fact that they took every one of Trump’s phone calls on air during his campaign — like it was a fricking joke.

[eShirl]

51. Mika needs to get off her high horse.

[OnDoutside]

53. Trump hot mic MSNBC Joe Scarborough Mika Brzezinski