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Trump sending agents to Chicago to fight gun crimes and enforce outstanding (Original Post) applegrove Jul 2020 OP
Federal policing of cities is illegal SoonerPride Jul 2020 #1
Trump, does what he damn well pleases and there are never any repercussions because we have RKP5637 Jul 2020 #4
apparently it is... stillcool Jul 2020 #11
"Mission creep" - no, a creepy mission, galloping over all of us; the Four Horsemen. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #13
Trump, wants to instigate violence across the US. Then, he can declare Martial Law RKP5637 Jul 2020 #2
He'll send in his cult fighters to stir up trouble, causing lots of noise and violence, then 42bambi Jul 2020 #12
Would not be surprised at all. He will do almost anything IMO to seize power. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2020 #14
Trump sending agents to Chicago to fight gun crimes and implement outstanding FelineOverlord Jul 2020 #3
The person who requested them is suspended and has no . . Iliyah Jul 2020 #5
Ala Germany in the 1930s. We are getting there. triron Jul 2020 #6
We are already there SoonerPride Jul 2020 #8
Absolutely, brought to us by Putin and Trump. The latter is working to destabilize the US as best RKP5637 Jul 2020 #9
wtf does fight gun crimes mean... Thomas Hurt Jul 2020 #7
Black people who own guns. SoonerPride Jul 2020 #10
Trump probably figures between Covid-19 and this, he can finish off a lot of black RKP5637 Jul 2020 #16
And I assume this means the locals are just not smart or skilled enough Volaris Jul 2020 #18
I used to worry that Trump would start a war - somewhere, little did I know 42bambi Jul 2020 #15
Yeah, same here. I think this is going to escalate and escalate ... and we have a GOP senate that sits RKP5637 Jul 2020 #17

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
1. Federal policing of cities is illegal
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:26 PM
Jul 2020

They can ostensibly guard federal property but they can't just drive around looking for gang bangers and rounding them up.

Not that the rule of law matters of course. Because that ended in 2016.

But it is definitely illegal.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
4. Trump, does what he damn well pleases and there are never any repercussions because we have
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:31 PM
Jul 2020

a bunch of cowardly republicans in office, as well as, those thinking being a sycophant will enhance their posture in the GOP.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
11. apparently it is...
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:38 PM
Jul 2020
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/border-patrol-portland-arrest/
The Border Patrol Was Responsible for an Arrest in Portland
An internal memo, obtained exclusively by The Nation, details a coordinated program of domestic counterinsurgency.
By Ken KlippensteinTwitter
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A former senior DHS intelligence officer explained that while other federal agencies are required to wear identifiers when conducting arrests—NCIS agents have to wear both marked jackets and hats during arrests, for example—that is not the case with the DHS. “The fact is, they don’t have to do anything in marked vehicles,” he said. “Such operations happen all the time and at the discretion of supervisors.”

“If it gives them a tactical advantage, they will find a way to justify it,” a current DHS official told The Nation.

But just because the practice is legal, that doesn’t mean it works in law enforcement’s favor. “It’s good for public image to have visible police presence as a deterrent,” the former intelligence officer said.
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“‘Mission creep’ is what CBP, Border Patrol, and ICE have been engaged in since 9/11,” Budd said. “There are all sorts of interesting powers that CBP, ICE and Border Patrol have under Title 42 pandemic law, which has been triggered with Trump’s Covid-19 national emergency declaration. Even though he claims we should not be in pandemic lockdown, he refuses to lift the emergency declaration because this gives these agencies more authority. All of this is legal because of vague and broad authorities given to these agencies after 9/11.”

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
2. Trump, wants to instigate violence across the US. Then, he can declare Martial Law
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:27 PM
Jul 2020

across the US to try to appease his master, Putin.

42bambi

(1,753 posts)
12. He'll send in his cult fighters to stir up trouble, causing lots of noise and violence, then
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:50 PM
Jul 2020

deliberately order his "mercenaries" in to save the city, and eventually declare victory! Only he can fix it.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. The person who requested them is suspended and has no . .
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:31 PM
Jul 2020

authority. They will be there illegally just like in Portland.

Plus where are they going to put the criminals and people with warrants? Crowded facilities? During a Pandemic.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
8. We are already there
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:35 PM
Jul 2020

Don't kid yourself.

The veracity of the election is in grave doubt.

No matter who is declared the winner there is a sizeable portion of the country that will not accept it.

Violence will be widespread and ugly

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
9. Absolutely, brought to us by Putin and Trump. The latter is working to destabilize the US as best
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:36 PM
Jul 2020

he can, to destroy it for his masters. And millions of Americans are so F'en naive, gullible, stupid or just don't care.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
16. Trump probably figures between Covid-19 and this, he can finish off a lot of black
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:00 PM
Jul 2020

people along with all the other things he has done to harm black people. The guy is a monster, a narcissistic sociopathic sadistic racist. One can never forget that.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
18. And I assume this means the locals are just not smart or skilled enough
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:02 PM
Jul 2020

To execute their own damned arrest warrants? What fucking nonsense.

I have a feeling Gov Pritzker will have quite a lot to say about this.

42bambi

(1,753 posts)
15. I used to worry that Trump would start a war - somewhere, little did I know
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:55 PM
Jul 2020

the war would be here in the US!

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
17. Yeah, same here. I think this is going to escalate and escalate ... and we have a GOP senate that sits
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:01 PM
Jul 2020

on their asses and does nothing. The cowards!

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