It concerns me that 9% are undecided who to vote for. That can influence the outcome

[still_one]

[Hoyt]

1. Me too. But, at least there is a chance they'll do the right thing.

[still_one]

3. +++

[LakeArenal]

2. But lots of folks on DU chose undecided because the liked it even tho they had a choice.

Besides polls are very rudimentary guidelines. Often way off base.

[AleksS]

4. I figure those are Trump voters embarrassed to admit it.

I figure those are Trump voters embarrassed to admit it.

My mind cannot accept that there are people who are genuinely and honestly undecided at this point.

As a comedian once said (I forgot who) :

Being undecided at this point is like being on an airplane, and when the flight attendant tells you the choices for dinner are chicken or a steaming pile of dung, you have to ask: "How's the chicken prepared?"

I find it much easier to believe people are embarrassed to expose their racism and goddamn idiocy by admitting they're voting for Trump, than to believe they honestly haven't decided.

I think back to WI in 2016. There weren't a lot of Trump signs, and it looked like he was not going to win here. BUT there were a lot of "We Back the Badge" signs, which basically meant the same thing. People didn't want to admit to voting for Trump, didn't want to publicly admit to supporting Trump, but when they got in the voting booth...

[Demsrule86]

6. With a pandemic, depression level unemployment, and protests...

it is not 2016.

[AleksS]

9. But I guarantee that every "We Back the Badge" or every "Thin Blue Line" yard sign

is someone who will be voting for Trump but doesn't want to admit it publicly. Those signs might as well be T-P signs in the yards.

So, while it's not 2016, and Biden is in a FAR FAR FAR better position than Hillary**, there are still 2016 analogs to consider. It's for sure not a "gimme" for him. All the Trump f-ups just make "Closet Trumpers" stay even harder in the closet.



**Less baggage, no 30-year hit job by right wing media, no misogyny to have to overcome, with luck no "Comey Surprise," pandemic, protests, etc.

[Demsrule86]

5. Your concern is noted...but if Joe is over 50 % as he is in many polls perhaps

not needed.

[BGBD]

7. undecideds

typically favor the challenger over the incumbent. This is usually by about a 2:1 margin.

[2naSalit]

8. Mabe they just would rather not say. ...nt