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Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:47 PM

Voided election

Lots of talk about Trump not accepting results of the election after Nov., “We’ll hVe to see what happens”. So after all voter suppression fails and he gets slaughtered, His last play is to deny results and use the constitution to Have states not verify electoral. My question, if he sees he lost, and McConnell, Graham, Collins, Ernst, et al get slaughtered, do we not believe “they will also” do everything to deny the vote to keep their jobs. How far down will the voiding results go? To states, counties, cities and how long then will they keep the congress appointed positions, 4 years or a new election?

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Reply Voided election (Original post)
Traildogbob Jul 2020 OP
Hoyt Jul 2020 #1
leftieNanner Jul 2020 #2
Traildogbob Jul 2020 #3
leftieNanner Jul 2020 #4
WyattKansas Jul 2020 #5
Traildogbob Jul 2020 #6
WyattKansas Jul 2020 #9
Traildogbob Jul 2020 #10
Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #12
leftieNanner Jul 2020 #7
Traildogbob Jul 2020 #11
Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #8
roamer65 Jul 2020 #14
leftieNanner Jul 2020 #15
roamer65 Jul 2020 #16
leftieNanner Jul 2020 #17
roamer65 Jul 2020 #18
jorgevlorgan Jul 2020 #13
Traildogbob Jul 2020 #20
KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2020 #19

Response to Traildogbob (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:51 PM

1. Not gonna let such concerns get in way of getting out the vote and running up the score for Dems.

 

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Response to Traildogbob (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:52 PM

2. Technically - Legally

All of their terms end in January 2021. Senators who were up for election, House members, and the President. So if the whole thing blows up (it just might!), then we have no government.

If all the Repug Senators lose, then I wouldn't be surprised if they join Ass Face in contesting the election. The problem for them in particular is that the elections are run by their own states. If the SOS and Board of Elections certify the results, then it's difficult for them to say it was fraudulent.

Can you believe that we are actually having this conversation????

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:08 PM

3. Thank you

Don’t want to think of it, certainly will vote and get sick doing so if need be. But I damn well believe trump will not be the only one trying not to leave, and the evilpower of McConnell and Graham with Fox News is not to be underestimated. Thank you for your answer and response.

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Response to Traildogbob (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:14 PM

4. We have interesting discussions here on DU

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:18 PM

5. When Idiot's term expires January, 2021...

I'm sure he and the rest of his Republican enablers don't want to deal with President Nancy Pelosi if they refuse to accept election results.

Am I right about this process?

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Response to WyattKansas (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:24 PM

6. I hope so.

Nov. until Jan 21, if they refuse results, may be brutal in the streets. His BarrArmy May go off.

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Response to Traildogbob (Reply #6)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:33 PM

9. When President Nancy Pelosi immediately fires Attorney General Barr...

All of his minions will vanish once they realize their careers and which side of the law they are on will be eliminated and they will be labeled as enemies/criminals of the United States.

Career government employees and law enforcement will immediately turn on them as well.

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Response to WyattKansas (Reply #9)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:38 PM

10. Music to my ears

Put em all in the refugee cages.

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Response to WyattKansas (Reply #9)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:56 PM

12. Agree! We here need to remember we are not without power to act. Time is growing short

For the criminal president and his ilk

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Response to WyattKansas (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:27 PM

7. I think so

Except that if all the elections are challenged - House races too - then there would be zero reps in the House and only 67 (or so) Senators. The succession goes President - VP - Speaker of the House, but I think that would only happen if the President and VP are both hit by a bus on the same day. If there is a tie in the Electoral vote, then there is a process that takes place in the House where each state gets one vote - which would give the election to Trump (assuming every Republican House member votes for him). We hold more seats, but they have more states.

All these interesting things I have learned by being on DU!

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:43 PM

11. Me too

Learned it here and from Thom Hartmann. Really appreciate all the shared knowledge here. Think most all ppl here could ace Donnies tough test. Especially the last 5.

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Response to WyattKansas (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 04:32 PM

8. You are correct! They will try, but in the end they will not succeed

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:38 PM

14. Yes, we still have government.

The states assume the powers.

That’s why it is imperative to flip your state governments Democratic.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #14)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:39 PM

15. Ah - that's good to understand.

DC would be a mess though!

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #15)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:41 PM

16. It may resemble the time during the Articles of Confederation.

Stronger state governments and a weak federal government.

Read the Tenth Amendment. It gives states a LOT of latitude.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #16)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:45 PM

17. I will

I have a US Constitution in my desk - thanks to my local Indivisible Group!

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #17)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:46 PM

18. ..



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Response to Traildogbob (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:29 PM

13. I could see him hiding in the white house basement until he is arrested and taken away.

Elected officials in the U.S. have also refused to step down, albeit from lower offices than the presidency. In 1874, a Texas governor locked himself in the basement of the state capitol building after losing his reelection bid. The saga began when Republican Governor Edmund J. Davis lost the 1873 election by a resounding 2-to-1 ratio to his Democratic challenger, Richard Coke, and claimed that the election had been tainted with fraud and intimidation. A court case made its way to the state’s supreme court. All three justices, each of whom had been appointed by the incumbent Davis, ruled that the election was unconstitutional and invalid. Democrats called upon the public to disregard the court’s decision, and proceeded with plans for Coke’s inauguration. On January 15, 1874, Coke arrived at the state capitol with a sheriff’s posse, and was sworn in to office while Davis barricaded himself downstairs with state troopers. The next day, Davis requested federal troops from President Ulysses S. Grant. Grant refused, and Davis finally stepped down three days later.


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/02/what-if-he-wont-go/606259/?fbclid=IwAR18oaUx2FyfLxKuvYpvOvGJAbfFPJMXWtAVChmf8Lbw7DIGXeev0M0J31Y

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Response to jorgevlorgan (Reply #13)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:54 PM

20. Very interesting.

We had McCrury refuse to leave in NC. Cooper took over after a while. The GOP prick was promised a victory from Puty, and voter fraud was suppose to give him the win. HE Could not believe he lost. Seems to be a GOP tactic of late to refuse results.

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Response to Traildogbob (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:46 PM

19. Let them protest in court where it belongs, then we will tie HIS ass up for 10 years....

with delays on appeal, just like he prefers to handle all things justice......

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