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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:15 PM Jul 2020

Trump is hoping the protesters overreact

If we're wise we will make his goons overreact and get our Tiananmen Square or Bull Connor moment.


We need lots of walls of moms like there were in Portland. The optics of Trump's dogs going after them will be awful for him.


"The whole world is watching."


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Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
1. For the GOP to still do nothing means they are all traitors and guilty of murder and
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:17 PM
Jul 2020

we cant resolve this the way we think we can, I am afraid.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
3. Personally I think this is as bad unwinnable situation. The vandalism
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:21 PM
Jul 2020

That was the catalyst for this that was started nearly 2 months ago was not sanctioned by the protest organizers. It IMO hijacked the protest and I think gave fodder to the otherside.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
5. The anarchists suck.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:23 PM
Jul 2020

They aren't to be confused with peaceful protesters like the Navy vet who was beaten but not bowed,

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
6. Yes, I agree. As well as the vast majority of protestors that have been out there.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:27 PM
Jul 2020

Although that Navy Vets has a big set of balls.

As well as the Mothers who came out. However this is a situation that did not have to be.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
8. the Boogaloo Movement is the only group
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:58 PM
Jul 2020

I've seen mentioned in reports of arrests for violence, starting fires, etc at protests across the country. Why is no one affiliated with the 'anarchists' arrested?

US Intelligence Turns to the Boogaloo Movement
After downplaying the threat of right-wing domestic terrorism, top intelligence agencies take notice of a rising militia.
By Ken KlippensteinTwitter

Last month, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) published a report obtained by The Nation, which begins by stating, “The Intelligence Community reports that Domestic Violent Extremists (DVEs) who support ‘Boogaloo’ could exploit the current political and social environments to conduct attacks in the United States, and pose a potential threat to law enforcement.”
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Still, that the Pentagon is even debating a response to the wave of far-right violence may represent an inflection point for an administration that has often appeared reluctant to address the threat. While President Trump has repeatedly inveighed against “the radical left,” including antifa, which he vowed to label a terrorist organization, he has yet to address the Boogaloo attack, as well as others carried out by individuals motivated by far-right ideologies.

As one former senior counterterrorism official told me, “It’s pretty clear that as long as Trump’s in office, homegrown violent extremism isn’t going to be a priority. He’s more concerned about an immigrant who overstayed his visa.”

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/intelligence-agencies-boogaloo/

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
14. This is Portland, I live here. The ""Boogaloo Men" aren't the problem here.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:21 PM
Jul 2020

And if they were one bag of asshiles doesn't justify another.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
15. The Boogaloo Movement is an on-line thing...
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:55 PM
Jul 2020

but many white supremacists identify with them, and their name has been popping up since the Protests started.


Oregon has prominent place on Southern Poverty Law Center's new list of U.S. hate groups
Updated May 17, 2019; Posted Feb 21, 2018

The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) declared today that the white-supremacy movement continues to expand in the U.S. -- as does violence by white-nationalist groups.

The civil-rights and legal-advocacy nonprofit said in its just-published "Year in Hate" report that the U.S. had 954 active hate groups in 2017, a 4-percent increase from the year before. The sheer number of such organizations in the country, ranging from "alt-right" to black nationalist, is notable. But the SPLC says its list "understates the true level of hate in America, because a growing number of extremists, particularly those who identify with the alt-right, operate mainly online and may not be formally affiliated with a hate group."

Oregon, with its population of just over 4 million, appears to have a disproportionate number of hate-based organizations within its borders. (The U.S. overall has nearly 325 million people.) Below are the SPLC-listed hate groups that are based in or have chapters in Oregon or southwestern Washington. Some of the organizations on the list dispute the center’s definition of them.

“Generally,” writes the SPLC, antigovernment groups “define themselves as opposed to the ‘New World Order,’ engage in groundless conspiracy theorizing or advocate or adhere to extreme antigovernment doctrines.” The center makes clear that their inclusion in its hate-group report “does not imply that the groups themselves advocate or engage in violence or other criminal activities, or are racist.” Here are the ones in Oregon, according to the SPLC:

III%ers Security Force

III% United Patriots

American Patriot Party

American Patriots III%

Central Oregon Constitutional Guard

Embassy of Heaven

Freedom Bound International

Freedom from Government

Heirs of Patrick Henry

John Birch Society

McCutcheons Ink.

News With Views

Oath Keepers

Southern Oregon Constitutional Guard

Spectre Training Group

State of Jefferson Formation

Three Percenters-III%ers

The Voice of Freedom

You Have the Right





central scrutinizer

(11,648 posts)
13. My family in Portland agrees
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:31 PM
Jul 2020

They say the Youth Liberation Front is irresponsible. Trashing black owned businesses, indiscriminately breaking car windows. Sounds like they need their moms to yank them by their ears. My family there have been involved in progressive politics for decades and I trust their assessment.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
12. tRUMP doesn't need the protesters to overreact; all he needs is another group of Feds
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:19 PM
Jul 2020

to launch false flag attacks on his own people... That'll accomplish his mission... Let's never forget
who we're dealing with in all this.

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