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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 07:44 AM Jul 2020

Could Governors Use Their National Guard to Protect Protestors?

Could the Governor of Oregon call in the National Guard to stop federal unmarked agents from committing acts of violence against peaceful protestors in their states? Could other Governors do this? I would think so but it would be an escalation so I can imagine they are trying other ways to stop it first.

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Could Governors Use Their National Guard to Protect Protestors? (Original Post) berni_mccoy Jul 2020 OP
Uncertain no_hypocrisy Jul 2020 #1
The problem with the Nat'l Guard is Coleman Jul 2020 #2
Hundreds of thousands of National Guard troops LuvNewcastle Jul 2020 #4
I've wondered the same MyOwnPeace Jul 2020 #3

no_hypocrisy

(46,083 posts)
1. Uncertain
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 07:52 AM
Jul 2020

While anything federal "trumps" state entities, the federal "agents" are quasi-disenfranchised, that is, they don't have titles and don't strictly belong to any federal agency or to the military.

Coleman

(853 posts)
2. The problem with the Nat'l Guard is
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 07:56 AM
Jul 2020

The President has authority to federalize them, thus becoming their CinC.

In the 60's during the battle to desegregate schools, the governors of some of the states called in the NG to block the schools. Robert Kennedy threatened to have JFK federalize them and send them to Vietnam if they didn't stand down. They stood down.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
4. Hundreds of thousands of National Guard troops
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 08:09 AM
Jul 2020

were sent to the first Iraq war by GHW Bush. I'm guessing that a governor's action with the National Guard could be undone by the President. If not, at least some of those governors would probably have kept their NG troops at home because sending them overseas was deeply unpopular at the time.

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
3. I've wondered the same
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 08:03 AM
Jul 2020

regarding the local police.
Say, just like on TV, as the "unknowns" are placing a protester into one of the unmarked vans, a swarm of well-marked cop cars block in the van and arrest the "unknowns."

Could it happen that way?

Why not - perhaps the locals working in conjunction with the "unknowns," leaving the mayor and city leadership out of it? If THAT is the case, we're really screwed!

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