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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 08:03 AM Jul 2020

Just a quick note to any rogue federal agents planning on operating Portland-style in Manhattan with


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Just a quick note to any rogue federal agents planning on operating Portland-style in Manhattan without ID, or uniform, or (for all we know) warrants: the statute of limitations on kidnapping will not have expired by the time I take office.
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Just a quick note to any rogue federal agents planning on operating Portland-style in Manhattan with (Original Post) soothsayer Jul 2020 OP
K&R, this is what the DA's in Portland need to do !! People have to SPEAK UP or criminals like Trump uponit7771 Jul 2020 #1
Actually, I believe the DA in Portland needs to press charges cojoel Jul 2020 #4
THIS !!!! We've talked enough uponit7771 Jul 2020 #5
While this is the legally correct action. plimsoll Jul 2020 #17
The first thing to do is arrest the heads of the police unions. LiberalArkie Jul 2020 #21
"Living in a police state is great when you are the police" DBoon Jul 2020 #30
Legal action is already initiated, as of yesterday... 2naSalit Jul 2020 #22
And who would you charge with kidnapping? With no name tags and their faces covered they're all sop Jul 2020 #2
Deploy local police to get ID, no ID take them to jail like they do black people uponit7771 Jul 2020 #7
No, Portland's DA knows who they are. That's the problem. Hortensis Jul 2020 #8
You stop them in the act and then take them in for questioning. Sanity Claws Jul 2020 #9
All good solutions, but does anyone really believe the local police would actually confront these sop Jul 2020 #10
Especially when their union/association is supporting the move. 2naSalit Jul 2020 #23
They are self-identifying. Just go round up all the assholes in militia cosplay. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #13
a simple soloution would be Crazyleftie Jul 2020 #3
👍, we have to work together to stop Trumps goons. This would be a great way of going about it uponit7771 Jul 2020 #6
Wouldn't it be ironic if Captain Zero Jul 2020 #14
How would they know they're part of this? soothsayer Jul 2020 #15
Local PDs can go out and question them, no IDs they get arrested like black people do uponit7771 Jul 2020 #16
No doubt they are arriving on military bases. 2naSalit Jul 2020 #24
K & R & Retweeted! SunSeeker Jul 2020 #11
Special hearings are warranted immediately. This needs to be halted. Who are they, who is behind Evolve Dammit Jul 2020 #12
They won't deploy in Manhattan. Males are the mayor and governor of NYC & state. Texin Jul 2020 #18
Like this drumpf-loving dude soothsayer Jul 2020 #19
Portland mayor is a man. 2naSalit Jul 2020 #25
I wasn't suggesting that she was a milktoast. This is about Trump's hatred of women generally. Texin Jul 2020 #32
Yes, toxic masculinity and patriarchy and plain old woman hating in the mix. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2020 #31
They will remain nameless though. Dios Mio Jul 2020 #20
Theoretically, yes. 2naSalit Jul 2020 #26
Citizens should track them to their lair, film them unmasked as they come and go, and dox them. Midnight Writer Jul 2020 #27
They need doxxing soothsayer Jul 2020 #28
I think it is doable and would be effective. Midnight Writer Jul 2020 #29

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
1. K&R, this is what the DA's in Portland need to do !! People have to SPEAK UP or criminals like Trump
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 08:14 AM
Jul 2020

... will walk all over them twice.

cojoel

(957 posts)
4. Actually, I believe the DA in Portland needs to press charges
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 08:45 AM
Jul 2020

Nothing would speak louder than arrests.

plimsoll

(1,668 posts)
17. While this is the legally correct action.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 10:14 AM
Jul 2020

Who would enforce the warrants and make the arrests?

It's is looking more and more as if these paramilitary units were invited in by the Portland police union. The OSP is getting notorious for having white power fans in their ranks.

Police unions and departments across the nation may not realize it, but what the Portland police union did with the full and open coordination of the trump administration is the best argument so far to defund the police. By ignoring the wishes and direct requests of the duly elected officials they have in a very real sense overthrown a democratically elected regime. In short the Federal government has initiated a coup on behalf of an unelected faction.

2naSalit

(86,601 posts)
22. Legal action is already initiated, as of yesterday...
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 11:59 AM
Jul 2020

Perhaps even on Sunday. The Governor and AG are on it.

sop

(10,177 posts)
2. And who would you charge with kidnapping? With no name tags and their faces covered they're all
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 08:16 AM
Jul 2020

unidentifiable. Would you sue the DOJ and Bill Barr to establish their identities? Issue another subpoena for government documents? Set up another congressional committee to conduct yet another investigation?

Good luck with all that legal stuff. The rule of law no longer exists in this country. We live in a police state.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. No, Portland's DA knows who they are. That's the problem.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 08:53 AM
Jul 2020

I fantasized about police arresting them, but these federal goons are there legally, courtesy of all those who misused their voting power.

I don't like politicians who lie to the electorate, ESPECIALLY when they're supposed to be on our side but fooling us and making us look bad in the process. Let that to the Republicans. This blowhard knows she couldn't indict and prosecute these federal agents for kidnapping.

Sanity Claws

(21,848 posts)
9. You stop them in the act and then take them in for questioning.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 08:54 AM
Jul 2020

That's how you get their names, affiliations, as well as the name of their comrades.

You go to the rental car service and based on the license plate and a subpoena, you find out who paid for the car and whose drivers' license was produced.
Follow them and see where they are sleeping at night. With a subpoena, you ask the hotel who signed the register, who paid, what identification was produced.

sop

(10,177 posts)
10. All good solutions, but does anyone really believe the local police would actually confront these
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:07 AM
Jul 2020

federal agents, force them to identify themselves or arrest them?

2naSalit

(86,601 posts)
23. Especially when their union/association is supporting the move.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 12:03 PM
Jul 2020

They have no authority and yet they are dictating the actions of the local police usurping the real authorities. That is the problem, and they are the enemy of We the People whom they have been hired to protect and serve. Instead, they have declared war on us.




Crazyleftie

(458 posts)
3. a simple soloution would be
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 08:43 AM
Jul 2020

that when they arrive at the airport, do not let them disembark without giving their name, rank, and id no. and photograph each one.

Captain Zero

(6,805 posts)
14. Wouldn't it be ironic if
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 10:07 AM
Jul 2020

We offered a bounty for someone to kidnap some of these goons. Fair is fair. If they kidnap we can too.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
15. How would they know they're part of this?
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 10:11 AM
Jul 2020

But nyc airports DO require you to fill out a form if coming from plague states

2naSalit

(86,601 posts)
24. No doubt they are arriving on military bases.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 12:05 PM
Jul 2020

And there are plenty of them located between there and Seattle, not so hard to round up.

Evolve Dammit

(16,728 posts)
12. Special hearings are warranted immediately. This needs to be halted. Who are they, who is behind
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 10:04 AM
Jul 2020

this operation(s)giving orders, and who is paying them. This cannot wait.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
18. They won't deploy in Manhattan. Males are the mayor and governor of NYC & state.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 10:25 AM
Jul 2020

tRump only targets communities with female mayors and/or governors. It's a pattern I posted about last week. I finally heard either Lori Lightfoot or Keisha Lance Bottoms mention last evening on MSNBC. They're aware of this and and I think they've noted the pattern of this misogynistic regime. tRump for whatever reason cannot abide strong women and definitely not women "in charge".

2naSalit

(86,601 posts)
25. Portland mayor is a man.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 12:08 PM
Jul 2020

But the governor is a woman so... she's had run ins with militias before (Malheur facility) so I think she's no fainting violet which the DC clown show will be finding out.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
31. Yes, toxic masculinity and patriarchy and plain old woman hating in the mix.
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 12:06 AM
Jul 2020

We need to talk about the sexism in the societal mix of issues.

Do you know what Derek Chauvin and George Floyd had in common, besides being adult males?

They had both committed violence against women in the past, but we are not allowed to talk about that.

Also, there are incels like hitman Roy Den Hollander out there. He had a woman judge on his hit list they found in his car.
Some of the mass shooters in the past have specifically targeted women and killed only women. These pieces of shite are held up as role models to be emulated by incels and other woman haters.

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