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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGuess Who Invited The Federal Agents Into Portland? The Police Union
Although Portland leadership roundly decried the federal presence, the president of Portlands police union met with the head of the Department of Homeland Security last week to discuss the agents, apparently without the knowledge of the citys police chief. The president of Chicagos police union made his own envoys, asking Trump for federal intervention.
Trump might have heard him: 150 federal agents with Homeland Security Investigations are gearing up to head to the city, the Chicago Tribune first reported. Either way, protesters say local cops and the feds are clearly colluding.
And we know in Philadelphia that FOP union chief John McNesby is in touch with Trump. Mystery solved, Scoobies!
https://crooksandliars.com/2020/07/guess-who-invited-federal-agents-portland?utm_source=social&utm_medium=twitter&utm_content=33610
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)Celerity
(43,316 posts)be very little fundamental change. They are a clear and present danger and need to be ground to dust via RIco Act prosecutions.
Captain Zero
(6,802 posts)And if the Police Union President is advocating Trump Goons, he should be included in the furloughs.
So it works like this, if 100 trump goons come to town. 100 police officers at random are furloughed without pay if their union is advocating for the Goon presence.
Mayors and Police Chiefs can't be sabotaged by police union presidents. Don't tolerate it.
captain queeg
(10,171 posts)Local cops. And while Portland has a reputation of being liberal its police department does not.
2naSalit
(86,536 posts)have the authority to make any decisions with regard to legal operations that are the sole authority of actually elected by the public officials?
They don't, they answer to nobody and have no legal authority in city management or ordinances.
Miguelito Loveless
(4,460 posts)The police are now completely unreliable. "Law" enforcement at all levels is now suspect.
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Captain Zero
(6,802 posts)nt
JI7
(89,247 posts)anything.
The police would side with the thugs that were attacking the protestors .
just another example of the huge problem that is the police depts in this country. and yeah, the fucking unions are a problem also.
Delmette2.0
(4,164 posts)Most local police use the motto "Protect and Serve". I guess some of the individuals don't agree.
DENVERPOPS
(8,810 posts)I have met some incredibly excellent/outstanding police officers through the years.
I have also met some of the most racist/sexist Bubba cops you could imagine.
Sadly, the bad cops pull down the good ones, not the other way around.......
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)There's always political maneuvering among the power blocs of any city, and, gee, yes, a lot of cops tend to be lot more conservative than those WE elect to office.
Remember Manhattan's renegade FBI office conspiring with Giuliani and company against Hillary? They're still there, btw, and Trump is in the oval office most of us elected her to. Courtesy of those who didn't.
JI7
(89,247 posts)C_U_L8R
(44,998 posts)The generous explanation is they're idiots. The more likely answer is more sinister. Either way, they have no right to consider themselves protectors of justice and our communities.
Captain Zero
(6,802 posts)At least it started with the guy who succeeded Hoffa, not sure if they are still doing it.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)From the ever-excellent Heather Cox Richardson
Snip
On Saturday, John Catanzara, president of the Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 7, wrote a public letter to Trump aligning his union with Trump instead of the city's mayor. I am certain you are aware of the chaos currently affecting our city on a regular basis now," he wrote. I am writing to formally ask you for help from the federal government. Mayor Lightfoot has proved to be a complete failure who is either unwilling or unable to maintain law and order here.
Thekaspervote
(32,755 posts)And, she clearly stated they will not be having federal troops on the streets of Chicago....period!
triron
(21,999 posts)They are Gestapo.
aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)National Guard should be called up to protect the citizens from Trump's Gestapo.
dhill926
(16,337 posts)The Mayor is badass...the cops hate her of course....gonna be a wild weekend...
Happy Hoosier
(7,285 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)But, is there any recourse to go after a union head who goes way over his authority and takes over a management responsibility?
Captain Zero
(6,802 posts)so he is not cooperating with the invading secret police.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)He shouldnt if he does.
pazzyanne
(6,547 posts)His record speaks for itself and it isn't a pretty picture. The future of the Police Officers Federation of Minneapolis is part of the restructuring being discussed after George Floyd was murdered. The present police union and Bob Kroll provide cover for police brutality. Hopefully the union will be gone or greatly modified as the process goes on.
Crunchy Frog
(26,579 posts)The police in this country really have become a completely rogue element.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)I will say that after living 5 of my decades in New England watching the wide berth the rioters who trash the city are given in Portland is bizarre. Apparently a lot of people are unboard with it.
This deal kind of sounds like yhe Portland pd saying ok if you wont let us do our job, we will invite the feds to do it.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)If so, meet with some policemen he can trust, tell them what's going on and fire them. Call in the national guard.
jaxexpat
(6,818 posts)1. Will this involve collective bargaining?
2. I thought Reagan eliminated the union problem.
3. Do police unions prove the adage, "be careful what you wish for"?
"Does the mayor have the authority to fire them?" I'm kinda' thinking we've slipped by the "legal authority" aspect of things.
DENVERPOPS
(8,810 posts)need to understand that if the "Powers To Be" call in that state's national guard, those guard members won't turn on the states residents who may be friends, family, neighbors, etc.
The PTB will always bring in someone from elsewhere in the nation to do their ugly work in any locale.....
In this case, they brought in their worst border patrol personnel. The border patrol troops, from what I have seen over the years are a collection of the most racist, mean, angry white nationalists ever assembled in one group......
There are good people in any group, but when surrounded by a majority of assholes, they are brought down to the assholes level.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)I want them to protect them and their right to protest.
icymist
(15,888 posts)On the news this morning is Mike Salon, President of the Seattle Police Officers Guild asking for Federal help. "This police department is ineffective right now to protect, not only ourselves, but the entire Seattle population from this complete anarchy." I kind of wonder if this is a script handed out to other police guilds to call in Federal troops. I'm fairly convinced that the violence he is referring to was staged by an outside group to bring about the situation to call for help from the Feds.
https://www.kiro7.com/video/?id=BRRLDUR6CP42WUSCY6KILZWUTE
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)The above are all against the law and they should be. Allowing it to happen routinely or over a long term is anarchy.
icymist
(15,888 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Thekaspervote
(32,755 posts)obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Lonestarblue
(9,971 posts)The first budget cuts mayors should make are to the police force. Keep cutting until they get the message.
Nasruddin
(752 posts)"Gentlemen, get the thing straight once and for all the policeman isn't there to create disorder, the policeman is there to preserve disorder." - Chicago mayor Richard J Daley, 1968.
JT45242
(2,262 posts)These police unions are basically RICO enterprises.
Bust 'em up and let them reform with new leadership.
I was a teacher union rep and it pains me to see the criminality o these police unions.
HotTeaBag
(1,206 posts)Sad that lessons weren't learned, but not surprising.
DallasNE
(7,402 posts)Reached out to the individual police unions requesting them to call homeland security to discuss sending federal agents to their cities and several jumped at the opportunity. This also shows that to date the demonstrations have made no difference with the police unions as they remain the driver behind the police abuse and misconduct. As this shows, the police chief doesn't even control their own police force. The police union does.
RANDYWILDMAN
(2,668 posts)There has to be better ways to support the community then these Fascists in blue.
I live in Portland and it just makes me sick.
DENVERPOPS
(8,810 posts)Sounds like a "Black Flag" operation to me..........
They infiltrate the peaceful crowd with their own vandals and anarchists, then blame the demonstrators and it justifies them to bring in any one and use any means to control the peaceful demonstrators.......