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bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 11:08 AM Jul 2020

Howard Fineman Tweet on Trump Troopers


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For non twitter folks:
To @nytimes: #TrumpTroopers aren’t a “ploy.” They’re part of how he’ll rule if weak people let him. Other methods include: “official” press outlets, strict presidential control of govt. data, eliminate critics in the military, disrupt election machinery. It’s the #Putin playbook.
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Howard Fineman Tweet on Trump Troopers (Original Post) bronxiteforever Jul 2020 OP
This scares me more than anything going on now. Just terrifying. Srkdqltr Jul 2020 #1
It's only terrifying if saidsimplesimon Jul 2020 #11
Has Biden spoken up yet? zentrum Jul 2020 #28
Succinct, fine summary. Thank you empedocles Jul 2020 #2
We have to push back! If you have checked in on the Portland situation do, you'll feel better Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #3
You must mean a mayor who's upfront calling bullshit, a few hundred Moms locking arms and.... RussellCattle Jul 2020 #5
tRump has forced out just about every decent human in top echelons of government. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #4
and even most of the indecent, but competent ones NewJeffCT Jul 2020 #7
Fineman has been the most centrist of pundits for decades bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #6
Or the Statue Squad jayschool2013 Jul 2020 #13
It's a version of Brown shirts and Kristallnacht. Expect a "Reichstag" fire sooner than later. Augiedog Jul 2020 #8
Yep. Sounds like Trump RVN VET71 Jul 2020 #14
The military leaders need to be speaking up now. Where did they go? During the protests Quixote1818 Jul 2020 #9
Why do we assume these are military? OhNo-Really Jul 2020 #12
This is exactly what we should be talking about when we say "defund the police". We give them.... RussellCattle Jul 2020 #15
"Verifying window tints" is a good one. Here in Washington State a few years ago.... RussellCattle Jul 2020 #17
It could well be they've been checkmated. jaxexpat Jul 2020 #23
What exactly did the NYT say about "Trump troops" today irisblue Jul 2020 #10
It's the authoritarian playbook... Wounded Bear Jul 2020 #16
Extremely dangerous times..."strict presidential control... Duppers Jul 2020 #18
Could I hate and fear zentrum Jul 2020 #27
Howard Fineman is not a hair-on-fire type pundit Poiuyt Jul 2020 #19
Fuck yeah.. Rt! Cha Jul 2020 #20
We need to frame the issue and call them kidnappers muntrv Jul 2020 #21
Time to take a stand. warmfeet Jul 2020 #22
It's telling now duforsure Jul 2020 #24
NYC ouija Jul 2020 #25
Full on Fascism. zentrum Jul 2020 #26

RussellCattle

(1,535 posts)
5. You must mean a mayor who's upfront calling bullshit, a few hundred Moms locking arms and....
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 12:52 PM
Jul 2020

....singing "lullabies" to the storm troopers, a naked lady scaring the bejeezus out these same cosplay cops and "rioters" who are using hockey sticks and leaf blowers to combat the tear gas. Yes, absolutely, this does make me feel better. Throw in a little bit of Nancy Pelosi taking whacks at Homeland Security and I feel really good about how this plays into our current need for greater dialogue about policing in America.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
6. Fineman has been the most centrist of pundits for decades
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 12:56 PM
Jul 2020

so for him to utter a warning is remarkable.

Just keep using the word Gestapo. That's what they are.

Augiedog

(2,545 posts)
8. It's a version of Brown shirts and Kristallnacht. Expect a "Reichstag" fire sooner than later.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 12:59 PM
Jul 2020

Then martial law.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
14. Yep. Sounds like Trump
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 02:13 PM
Jul 2020

Reichstag's burning ashes are in the air. Doubt if Trumpski will blow up the Capitol Building. But the monuments! Think of Washington's monument, the Lincoln Memorial, Vietnam Memorial, WWII Memorial, Thomas Jefferson -- and then there is always Mt. Rushmore.

If Barr has recruited sufficient special ops talent from the many disgruntled Navy Seals, something(s) gonna blow. And it will all be blamed on BLM and antifa. Barr-Trump may even get a stooge to "confess" to the atrocities claiming he worked for antifa and/or BLM in the pay of George Soros.

I'm very concerned.

Quixote1818

(28,928 posts)
9. The military leaders need to be speaking up now. Where did they go? During the protests
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 01:02 PM
Jul 2020

they were all over Trump's recklessness.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
12. Why do we assume these are military?
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 02:02 PM
Jul 2020

The police have been training “volunteers” for years!

https://nationalpolice.org/volunteer/

Here are some of the duties volunteers are often asked to do by local police:

Fingerprinting
Neighborhood radar speed checking
Check on abandoned vehicles
Phone crime victims to answer questions
Doing home safety checks for vacationing homeowners
Assisting with special events
Doing bike patrols in community parks
Compile crime statistics in the community
Writing citations for handicapped parking violations
Helping with neighborhood watch
Assisting with search and rescue
Verifying vehicle window tints
Logging evidence
Tour guides
Take police reports
Working on cold case files
Assist with missing persons searches
Locate and recover surveillance video
Here are the professional backgrounds of volunteers that police departments especially need:

Religious leaders who can assist with Chaplain programs
Security specialists who can conduct security reviews at schools and other institutions
Individuals proficient in another language to help with translation
Mental Health Professionals who can counsel victims of crime
Veterinarians to provide care for police canine units
Banking and financial experts to assist with financial fraud and identity theft cases
Illustrators to do composite drawings of suspects
Dog trainers to assist with police canine units
Computer programmers

RussellCattle

(1,535 posts)
15. This is exactly what we should be talking about when we say "defund the police". We give them....
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 02:15 PM
Jul 2020

.....way too much money and ask them to do way too much. They brought this on themselves because their culture has evolved into this quasi-military, swat team, riot gear wearing, body-builder, macho version of cops. There is a downside, though, if we take away the community aspect of policing we will end up encouraging such bullying behavior. At least there will be fewer of them to deal with.

RussellCattle

(1,535 posts)
17. "Verifying window tints" is a good one. Here in Washington State a few years ago....
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 02:20 PM
Jul 2020

....the State Patrol (actually the good guys here) wanted the legislature to pass a limit on legal window tints. This was for safety, both of the drivers at night and the patrolman approaching a stopped vehicle. The republican, pro-small business, free market assholes in the legislature defeated the measure because "freedom".

Wounded Bear

(58,646 posts)
16. It's the authoritarian playbook...
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 02:18 PM
Jul 2020

as practiced by Mussolini, Hitler, Franco, Allende, etc etc etc...

Only works if free people let them.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
18. Extremely dangerous times..."strict presidential control...
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 02:21 PM
Jul 2020

"Strict presidential control of govt. data" includes control of CoVid data now.

Michael Caputo, tRump's new HHS Director, is now in control of all CoVid data! His other jobs: (from Wikipedia):

Reagan Administration adviser
George H.W. Bush campaign adviser
Carl Paladino campaign manager
Boris Yeltsin adviser
Vladimir Putin media consultant
Donald Trump campaign adviser




Fat Donny is getting pointers directly from Vlad.

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
19. Howard Fineman is not a hair-on-fire type pundit
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 04:02 PM
Jul 2020

For him to use those words shows what regular people are thinking.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
22. Time to take a stand.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 07:40 PM
Jul 2020

Time to act, not just post on the internet.

Time for your butt to go on the line, if you plan to save it.

This is it.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
24. It's telling now
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 09:54 AM
Jul 2020

Trump at a moments notice is threatening and willing to send his storm troopers to attack Americans in Democrat area's promoting violence, yet refuses to lift a finger trying to stop this virus from spreading, or spent any time stopping Putin from putting. Bounties on American service members for targeting and assassination.

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