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MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 10:51 AM Jul 2020

Unmarked Vans? Trump's Secret Police Has No Vehicles.

Those vans are rentals, probably from the local airport car rental outlets. Trump's ragtag army of goons has no vehicles of their own, so they just visit Hertz and other car rental places and rent the vehicles they need.

Amateur hour.

Heard from one driver in camo: "Does anyone know how to turn on the damned AC on this van?"

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Unmarked Vans? Trump's Secret Police Has No Vehicles. (Original Post) MineralMan Jul 2020 OP
so many we should be protesting outside of the rental places gopiscrap Jul 2020 #1
The video I just saw from Detroit were all Dodge Caravans underpants Jul 2020 #2
Yeah, that's the most common minivan available these days MineralMan Jul 2020 #4
The United States government Nature Man Jul 2020 #3
That's true. However, it's easier to fly those people to different MineralMan Jul 2020 #7
More than likely Nature Man Jul 2020 #11
It occurs to me that transporting those "officers" on commercial MineralMan Jul 2020 #18
Almost surely flying commercial fescuerescue Jul 2020 #17
See my post just above yours. MineralMan Jul 2020 #19
Flying with guns isn't hard for civilians DetroitLegalBeagle Jul 2020 #24
Oh that's easy fescuerescue Jul 2020 #26
Also no trace to any government agency. rickford66 Jul 2020 #5
That's true, too. MineralMan Jul 2020 #9
Certainly better than armored vehicles rolling into town. Hoyt Jul 2020 #6
That would take too long to move from city to city MineralMan Jul 2020 #8
There is so much about this SHIT that we just dont know... Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #10
Exactly. There is no accountability. MineralMan Jul 2020 #12
Are there any...seriously. Any missing persons reports? Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #13
That's a good question. Unfortunately, all of this has happened MineralMan Jul 2020 #15
Indeed Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #20
Exactly. We know NOTHING Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #25
I wonder where these goons are staying? kimbutgar Jul 2020 #14
Since this is just beginning to occur, I'm guessing that nobody has MineralMan Jul 2020 #16
In Portland the vans were rented from an Enterprise. (Previous DU post) nt Phoenix61 Jul 2020 #21
Thanks! MineralMan Jul 2020 #22
Rental cars have GPS tracking devices Brother Buzz Jul 2020 #23

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
4. Yeah, that's the most common minivan available these days
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 10:58 AM
Jul 2020

at car rental outlets. Really, there aren't that many minivans being made any more.

Nature Man

(869 posts)
3. The United States government
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 10:57 AM
Jul 2020

more than likely has significant resources to fund transportation costs, vehicle purchases, motor pool, fuel, etc.

Rental cars don't have traceable G-whatever license plates.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
7. That's true. However, it's easier to fly those people to different
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:00 AM
Jul 2020

cities and just have them rent vans. Otherwise, they'd either have to borrow vans from other agencies or something. I wonder if they're flying on commercial airlines, as well.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
18. It occurs to me that transporting those "officers" on commercial
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:35 AM
Jul 2020

airlines would be problematic in many ways. Perhaps they're chartering planes or using military transport. The problem lies with the firearms, ammo, and other equipment they need to go with them. That leads me to think that they're being moved by federally-owned transport. What transport? I don't know. Nobody seems to know.

All of those are common questions that should occur to just about everyone who is wondering WTF is going on. I assume that answers will begin to be available before too long. States' Attorneys General can demand such information in federal court, I think, and probably are doing so even now.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
17. Almost surely flying commercial
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:31 AM
Jul 2020

If they won't use their own vans, they surely wouldn't be using their own fleet of jets.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
19. See my post just above yours.
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:37 AM
Jul 2020

I discussed that there. Commercial air travel that includes carrying those firearms, ammo and other paraphernalia could be a difficult proposition. Chartered flights, perhaps. I don't know.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,922 posts)
24. Flying with guns isn't hard for civilians
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 12:57 PM
Jul 2020

And it's easier for Feds, particularly if they are on duty during the flight. Guns and ammo just go in checked bags. If they are on duty they can keep their pistols on them. The amount of equipment may pose some hurdles, but with air travel down, space probably isnt an issue, and if the feds are paying, who cares how much extra baggage costs.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
26. Oh that's easy
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 12:06 PM
Jul 2020

Civilians fly with guns and ammo all the time. Locked case and a form.

Federal agents? Fill out a form and show your id. Then skip you get to skip TSA.

It's literally easier to fly as Federal Officer IF you have a gun, than if you don't.

rickford66

(5,523 posts)
5. Also no trace to any government agency.
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 10:58 AM
Jul 2020

Almost every piece of government property has an inventory number on it. Especially expensive items. I doubt if these goons are even using Govt. credit cards. Probably over the counter prepaid debit cards.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
8. That would take too long to move from city to city
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:01 AM
Jul 2020

with a small force. I saw one video where one of the goons set off the van's alarm by opening a door. Another demonstration that they're rentals and unfamiliar to the people involved.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
10. There is so much about this SHIT that we just dont know...
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:06 AM
Jul 2020

at least "I" don't.
Where are these kidnapped people being taken?
Have they been released?
Were they charged with a crime?
...

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
12. Exactly. There is no accountability.
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:22 AM
Jul 2020

We don't know who's in charge. We don't know any of the people's names. There are no arrest warrants. There's no public record of the arrests and detentions. All we have is a few accounts from people who have been picked up by those goons and then released.

It's time to take this to the federal courts. The ACLU has already filed on the Oregon situation, and local officials are also filing suits in federal court.

What can we do? Damned little. That, in essence, is exactly what is wrong with these actions.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
15. That's a good question. Unfortunately, all of this has happened
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:28 AM
Jul 2020

such a short time ago that we aren't getting any information so far. My question is, "Who is in command of those groups those groups of whatever they are? What is his or her name, and what federal law enforcement organization does he or she work for?"

Local law enforcement should be stopping those people and demanding identifications from them. That they are not is very, very worrisome.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
25. Exactly. We know NOTHING
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 03:20 PM
Jul 2020

other than it is WRONG. If it wasn't wrong, we wouldn't have to be searching for answers. Once again, can you IMAGINE THE OUTRAGE from the Reich if President Obama had done this??

kimbutgar

(21,130 posts)
14. I wonder where these goons are staying?
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:25 AM
Jul 2020

It would be awful if someone found out and caused some mischief in the motels they are put up in. Especially during the day when these goons are resting after the shooting tears gas at people exercising their first amendment rights.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
16. Since this is just beginning to occur, I'm guessing that nobody has
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 11:30 AM
Jul 2020

done the legwork to find that information yet. Local law enforcement should be doing that identification work and demanding to know who those people are and who is in charge of their actions. At gunpoint, if necessary.

Brother Buzz

(36,416 posts)
23. Rental cars have GPS tracking devices
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 12:13 PM
Jul 2020

I need to believe a patriotic American working there will drop a dime on these thugs.

I'm just saying

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