Chapter 847: I had a conversation yesterday with

[PCIntern]

A very well-known Philadelphia criminal defense attorney. And I must say for many young people the phrase “Philadelphia lawyer“ may not mean anything, but at one time it was a catch phrase used throughout the country to mean a very shrewd lawyer who could do anything that needed to be done. This man is the quintessential Philadelphia lawyer.

He said to me in no uncertain terms that Trump and many members of his family will be going to jail. He is quite familiar with the state courts in New York and state prosecutors in New York as well as the prosecutors in Florida. These people are salivating, waiting for him to leave Office. And I’ve known this guy for over 25 years and never known him to exaggerate or dissemble with respect to procedure and protocol. He is a stark realist, if he believed that Trump and his minions were going to get away with it, as many of his clients have escaped prison, he would say so. In many cases during high profile prosecutions in the news, both local and national, he would say to me that someone was going to beat it and mention four or five intricate manners of defense. Not this time, and he’s no liberal in that sense. My guess is he’s a centrist to right wing Democrat, and quite frankly has never been wrong, at least Dead wrong in the years I’ve known him.

I told him I hoped and prayed he was correct. His response was, the Trump knows this of course and that’s why he will do anything to save himself from spending the rest of his life in prison. Anything. And for Trump, he added, “anything” is many things did you could not even conceive of because you’re civilized.

[elleng]

1. THANK YOU (and your friend.)

[TheBlackAdder]

31. You can't go to jail if. . .

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[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. Thank you for this fascinating glimpse into the tRump fiasco.

I am very hopeful that your friend is right. The whole damn family is a criminal enterprise and they must face justice.

[leftieNanner]

4. I agree that it's a very interesting post

But the scary part is the very last paragraph. Trump will do ANYTHING to keep himself from being indicted, prosecuted, and jailed. I do hope that he and his spawn are held accountable for their crimes and that our country can be repaired.

[geardaddy]

28. Exactly

I foresee some serious NSDAP shit going down for him to keep his power.

[fierywoman]

3. Thank you for this info -- it's heartening.

[Ilsa]

5. So it is no wonder that trump is willing to order

other people to shred the Constitution and Bill of Rights, just as he has done, and break every oath to the people and our Law. He is desperate, hoping he'll be too old to be sent to prison. (ha!)

[C_U_L8R]

6. Trump's Anything is what has us all so worried.

We are an expendable nuisance standing between him and personal gain and power. And when he perceives us as a greater threat, he will come after us and make Tiananmen look like a picnic. Bet your life on it. It's happening.

[smirkymonkey]

11. That's exactly what I'm worried about as well.

Because "Anything" could be starting WWIII. He is just itching to drop those nukes on someone and I have no doubt he would do it if he thought he was backed into a corner with no way out.

[KS Toronado]

7. The last line is telling and frighting.

And for Trump, he added, “anything” is many things you could not even conceive of because you’re civilized.
Lots of people wanting to stay out of jail will shoot at and kill cops, so what will donnie do?

[GoCubsGo]

8. The prosecutors in Virginia and New Jersey are probably salivating, too.

And, those of every other state where he has properties.

[Jeebo]

9. A country that has no extradition treaty with the U.S.

That's where the orange con man better be heading IMMEDIATELY on Jan. 21, 2021. That's what I've been saying and thinking for months.

Who was that "fugitive financier" who was holed up on some Caribbean island for years and years? I would hear him mentioned every so often on the news. This was, oh, 25 or 30 years ago, I think.

-- Ron

[PCIntern]

10. Robert Vesco?

[in2herbs]

12. IMO he'll take off and leave before that date and escape to a country with no extradition

treaty cuz he knows he's not welcome at Biden's house on 1/21 so why hang around and be arrested???

[ouija]

13. I tell everybody this

At some point, Trump will demand Bill Barr arrest Joe Biden. Mark. It. Down.

[sab390]

19. Bebe Rebozo

He was Nixon's money man for the plumbers. Lived out his last days in Cuba. There was a joke of course. Yesterday I bozoed today I rebozoed.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

20. I was thinking he might go somewhere like that after the election

(that I hope he loses) and then resign. Staying wherever it is with no extradition agreement.

[keithbvadu2]

14. +1

[Vinca]

15. Thanks for posting that, PC. My blood pressure just went down 10 points.

If Trump ever actually enters a prison, I want to be there in person to watch. We'll make a party of it - champagne for all!

[bucolic_frolic]

16. "Philadelphia lawyer" is in the dictionary, and

I don't know if it was involved in the origins of the term, but Philly is a nationwide hub of class action lawsuits.

[PCIntern]

21. It is now

It wasn’t when the term was coined.

If you ever want to see a great movie watch Paul Newman in The Young Philadelphians. Just a terrific film and appearances by all kinds of actors and actresses who went on to fame in TV.

[bucolic_frolic]

29. I remember the term being used in the 70s

and it didn't refer to geography, or an attorney from "town" (as Philly is known to locals). It meant a shrewd one who delivered.

I'll make a note of the film, thanks!

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

22. there is an old Country song titled Philadelphia Lawyer.

It doesn't end well for him. Here's a version;

[bucolic_frolic]

30. Well THAT's a yarn if I ever heard one /nt

[2golddogs]

33. Philadelphia lawyer

My old brain is fuzzy about it now, but I think I first read the expression maybe in a story by Mark Twain or O. Henry. It was used to refer to an eastern big-city lawyer who was smart and slick, better than the lawyers in small towns in the south or west.

[mjvpi]

17. Proactive presidential self pardon.

[Hekate]

18. From his lips to God's ears. I believe the "anything" part, because Trump gives every indication...

...of wanting to tear down the entire structure if he can’t get his way. You know, like that tag line in the movies, where the criminally jealous lover puts a knife to the woman’s throat and screams, “If I can’t have her, nobody can!”

Thank you for sharing this anecdote with us. I hope and pray your friend is right.

[Lonestarblue]

23. If Trump's gambit to occupy cities and scare people into voting for him fails,

and he loses by such a margin that there can be no question that Biden is the new president, Trump will spend the next two+ months doing everything he can to finish destroying the country. He will try to drain the US Treasury of every penny possible. I predict that he will resign and allow Pence to pardon him. He will then have his plane waiting to fly him out of the country, probably to one of his golf courses in Scotland or Ireland. His buddy Boris would probably refuse to extradite him for trials in New York. Or perhaps he would go to Saudi Arabia and trade US intelligence for a life of luxury supported by MBS.

I truly have no faith that Trump will ever pay for his crimes.

[ffr]

24. Then I challenge him or those he's referring to to do their very worst

and by worst I mean, mean-spirited letter of the law worst, at throwing the book at this entire cabal. Barr, Pompeo, et al. Because for the 75% majority of us who've had to endure repeated skirting of the law, this Kremlin loving regime has shaken our belief in a true and just America.

We'll get the voters to vote. You get them to stick to their word. And we'll back their every action.

[diva77]

25. I like morale-boosting posts.

[diva77]

26. Can you ask him if there is anything that can be done now to stop Bill Barr and his tactics?

[geardaddy]

27. From his mouth to God's ears!

Man, I hope he's right!

[localroger]

32. The reason this is believable

...is that Trump and his family are so very, very stupid. They have left evidence piled up all over the place and can't keep a confidence to save their lives. Whatever stupid plan they have cooked up to deal with the situation is probably hopelessly inadequate and they'll fuck it up anyway.

[Pobeka]

34. He'll have an "emergency" meeting with Putin in Russia in early January.

He'll have to bring his family with him for some insane reason.

They'll never come back.