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The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878: Apparently certain Federal groups are exempt. (Original Post) panader0 Jul 2020 OP
These are Civilian police org anizations, not military. Hangingon Jul 2020 #1
Hence the exemptions. panader0 Jul 2020 #2
It is not an exemption sarisataka Jul 2020 #3
The Coast Guard is also exempt---they are military no? panader0 Jul 2020 #5
Only in time of war sarisataka Jul 2020 #6
Some are border and customs agents. pwb Jul 2020 #4
Military are not being used... brooklynite Jul 2020 #7
Fine, they need to stay of federal property. Not roaming the sts making "preemptive arrests" Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #8

sarisataka

(18,498 posts)
3. It is not an exemption
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 03:12 PM
Jul 2020

The Act only affects the military.

It never had anything to do with Federal law enforcement agencies. Law enforcement is their reason for existence.

sarisataka

(18,498 posts)
6. Only in time of war
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 03:41 PM
Jul 2020

Then they are brought in as a separate service under the Department of the Navy. All other times they are considered a law enforcement agency. Currently the CG is under DHS, not DoD.
Edit> to be clear, yes they are a military branch under Title 10, but Title 14 assigns them to DHS. Only during the World Wars have they been transferred to Navy authority.

This arrangement has led to strange circumstances. The Navy will often have a Coast Guard officer on board when operating near the US. The Navy is not allowed to arrest drug traffickers but the CG can.

If a Navy ship encounters a boat smuggling drugs, command is turned over to the CG officer making is a CG ship. Junior CG officers have therefore been in command of Aegis class cruisers, ships much larger than anything the CG has, at least temporarily.

pwb

(11,252 posts)
4. Some are border and customs agents.
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 03:19 PM
Jul 2020

Guess our borders have the welcome mat out with border patrol agents inland.

brooklynite

(94,363 posts)
7. Military are not being used...
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 03:48 PM
Jul 2020

Posse Comitatus only applied to use of the military. Federal law enforcement have always been able to make arrests on Federal property or for commission of Federal crimes.

Thekaspervote

(32,713 posts)
8. Fine, they need to stay of federal property. Not roaming the sts making "preemptive arrests"
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 03:59 PM
Jul 2020

As little chad says that’s why they are on the streets..totally against the law

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