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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 09:03 AM Jul 2020

WTW? A Straight-Faced Conway Just Scolded States For Reopening 'Too Quickly'

In a breathtaking display of shameless gaslighting, White House senior adviser Kellyanne Conway on Wednesday accused the states plagued with skyrocketing COVID-19 cases of being too hasty with reopening their economies – you know, the thing President Donald Trump desperately pushed them to do for months.


“Some of these states blew through our criteria, blew through our phases and they opened up some of the industries a little too quickly, like bars,” Conway told reporters outside of the White House Wednesday.

The administration official argued that governors were the ones who chose to reopen their states and therefore Trump cannot be held responsible for the subsequently disastrous COVID spike consequences.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/conway-scolded-states-reopening-too-quickly

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WTW? A Straight-Faced Conway Just Scolded States For Reopening 'Too Quickly' (Original Post) mfcorey1 Jul 2020 OP
Ducking responsibility, as usual. Laelth Jul 2020 #1
Soup-rise! soup-rise! soup-rise! struggle4progress Jul 2020 #2
BWAHAHA!! Great Marx Bros reference..... AZ8theist Jul 2020 #30
Great scene! struggle4progress Jul 2020 #50
I knew this was a bumpy ride genxlib Jul 2020 #3
asshats like Conway have no problem with lying as we all know. I pay no attention beachbumbob Jul 2020 #4
conway, other rw similiars, are quite aware of their 'low information' empedocles Jul 2020 #8
why it doesn;t matter to me, I could give a rats ass. beachbumbob Jul 2020 #9
Yikes. 2naSalit Jul 2020 #5
Heard a caller on local talk radio - Trump's been saying it will get worse for a long time underpants Jul 2020 #6
trump, if not reading scripted remarks, always seems to talk the state of his mind, empedocles Jul 2020 #10
"I don't take responsibility at all." nt. Mariana Jul 2020 #7
Typical. Let others do the real work than they swoop in and take the bows. Srkdqltr Jul 2020 #11
Who didn't see that coming? AleksS Jul 2020 #12
This Same Scenario Will Happen In Relation To Opening Schools..... global1 Jul 2020 #18
Alternate facts... KewlKat Jul 2020 #13
You got it padah513 Jul 2020 #22
The same Kellyanne Conway who said that the Trump campaign, the Trump transition team, and the ... Botany Jul 2020 #14
Didn't Trump tweet LIBERATE MICHIGAN? gratuitous Jul 2020 #15
+1 Baitball Blogger Jul 2020 #17
Yes he did malaise Jul 2020 #25
Did you hear that De Santis and Kemp? Baitball Blogger Jul 2020 #16
She's the moron who blasted WHO: "this is not Covid-1" central scrutinizer Jul 2020 #19
Once again the im-potus throws his allies under the bus Fullduplexxx Jul 2020 #20
Does she drink like a fish? Is that why she called bars "industries"? Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #21
And that's why you should keep your kids off drugs IronLionZion Jul 2020 #23
Remember Liberate Michigan? malaise Jul 2020 #24
Trump uses surrogates to be on both sides of every issue bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #26
That's exactly the point. Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #31
Unfortunately, she's right. Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #27
Gaslighting ellie Jul 2020 #28
The "Beau of the Fifth Column" video from yesterday addresses this very topic of throwing niyad Jul 2020 #29
How come the media never pushes back on her lies? kimbutgar Jul 2020 #32
But... They still want open schools..... LakeArenal Jul 2020 #33
And yet...the faithful flock will not cognize the 180-degree turn Mr. Ected Jul 2020 #34
But send you kids to school. She could literally rip off her pants and talk out her ass it would onecaliberal Jul 2020 #35
The buck never stops. n/t Harker Jul 2020 #36
Liberating herself from responsibility Danmel Jul 2020 #37
Typical GOP bullshit. Spinning reality. They love it--and they will all start falling in line now. C Moon Jul 2020 #38
Disgusting. trump forced his red state governors to open up quickly knowing they didn't comply iluvtennis Jul 2020 #39
DeVos is out telling schools to reopen and pushing the lie that kids are "stoppers" of Covid-19! SunSeeker Jul 2020 #41
DeVos is a moron just like trump. they only care about the wealthy, not the common folks. nt iluvtennis Jul 2020 #43
They didn't comply with the White House plan - Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #47
+ agree. Thanks for clarifying. nt iluvtennis Jul 2020 #49
Hey AZ gov doug ducey, StarryNite Jul 2020 #40
And this gives us a perfect window into how tRump managed to go bankrupt Grammy23 Jul 2020 #42
she seems to be a llashram Jul 2020 #44
"straight-faced?" She must've been using her OTHER face. lastlib Jul 2020 #45
she is actually correct RussBLib Jul 2020 #46
All states jumped over the guidelines - Ms. Toad Jul 2020 #48
Okay, Conjob, area51 Jul 2020 #51

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
1. Ducking responsibility, as usual.
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 09:08 AM
Jul 2020

It’s just like he told us. “No. I take no responsibility. None at all.”

Such a child!

-Laelth

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
3. I knew this was a bumpy ride
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 09:12 AM
Jul 2020

Now I see it is because of all those Republican Governors under the bus.

DeSantis, Kemp, Abbott, et al. You still think Trump will stand up for you when it matters?

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
8. conway, other rw similiars, are quite aware of their 'low information'
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 09:21 AM
Jul 2020

and their other constituencies - and lying, etc. does not matter much.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
9. why it doesn;t matter to me, I could give a rats ass.
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 09:23 AM
Jul 2020

We need to mock her and others like her. Mocking and shaming has a way in working

underpants

(182,769 posts)
6. Heard a caller on local talk radio - Trump's been saying it will get worse for a long time
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 09:19 AM
Jul 2020

This was the day after the first virus presser reboot

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
10. trump, if not reading scripted remarks, always seems to talk the state of his mind,
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 09:32 AM
Jul 2020

not any larger reality.

Therefore, trump feels trump will be 'get worse for a long time.'

[My translation anyway].

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
12. Who didn't see that coming?
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 09:35 AM
Jul 2020

Other than the repug governors.

Of COURSE Trump would throw them under the bus to divert responsibility from his disastrous failure

That was the plan all along. He didn’t pass the buck to the states because he thought they could do better. He passed the buck to the states so he could blame them when it fell apart.

global1

(25,241 posts)
18. This Same Scenario Will Happen In Relation To Opening Schools.....
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 09:54 AM
Jul 2020

Trump and his minions have been trumpeting opening schools and telling us that kids aren't as susceptible to Covid-19 and recover quickly if they do contract it and won't pass it on to others.

Again - this is Trump wanting kids in schools so the parents get back to work and the unemployment numbers go down and make it look like the economy is coming back - all with the ultimate goal being - Trump looks good for the economy and his poll numbers go up and he gets re-elected.

However, when it hits the fan that kids, teachers and families come down with Covid-19 and the cases begin to climb followed by hospitalizations and deaths - Trump will somehow find ways to blame the schools, the teachers and the parents for re-opening schools and not following his Administrations non-existing recommendations for re-opening.

This is their game. This is what they have been doing and are doing now. The reason they do it is that it works for them. They are always given a pass.

Trump has had two of these briefings now and all of a sudden the MSM is saying that he is a changed man. He changed his tone.

Come on people - you weren't born yesterday. This is all a scam. A con. An act.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
14. The same Kellyanne Conway who said that the Trump campaign, the Trump transition team, and the ...
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 09:36 AM
Jul 2020

.... Trump administration did not have any contacts with Russia?


Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
16. Did you hear that De Santis and Kemp?
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 09:43 AM
Jul 2020

They're kicking you to the curb. That's what comes from be a Trump loyalist.

central scrutinizer

(11,648 posts)
19. She's the moron who blasted WHO: "this is not Covid-1"
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 10:15 AM
Jul 2020

Implying WHO had 18 previous chances to fight the virus! One of the stupidest comments ever uttered. Maybe she was still mourning the Bowling Green victims.

malaise

(268,930 posts)
24. Remember Liberate Michigan?
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 10:22 AM
Jul 2020
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-04-23/trump-liberate-michigan-but-not-georgia
<snip>
By now we should all be inured to the whiplash-inducing comments of President Trump, who, as my father used to say, could screw up an iron ball.

Just last week he was tweeting his support to armed anti-government activists and conservative protesters seeking an end to stay-at-home orders in three states with Democratic governors: Michigan, Virginia and Minnesota. The president also, contradicting his top health advisors, says he wants an early resumption of normal business and social activity.

Well, Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp, a Republican Trump backer, seemed to take the president seriously (silly man) and announced that Georgia would begin rolling back stay-at-home restrictions, just the kind of move demanded by the folks Trump encouraged to “LIBERATE” (the all-caps were his) other states.

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
31. That's exactly the point.
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 10:49 AM
Jul 2020

The white house issued guidelines, agitated for citizens to demand that states not follow them, and is now blaming states for caving to the pressure he generated that contradicted his formal advice, so either way he can claim to have been right.

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
27. Unfortunately, she's right.
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 10:44 AM
Jul 2020

There were federal guidelines, and not a single state meet even the gating criteria for the first phase of opening, before moving into phase 2. Each gating criteria required two weeks of downward trajectories before moving to the next phase.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/openingamerica/

So while it absolutely is true that those guidelines were undermined by the orange idiot running around screaming liberate Michigan (etc.), It is also true that no state followed the federal guidelines.

niyad

(113,259 posts)
29. The "Beau of the Fifth Column" video from yesterday addresses this very topic of throwing
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 10:46 AM
Jul 2020

his kool-ade drinking governors, etc., under the bus

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
34. And yet...the faithful flock will not cognize the 180-degree turn
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 11:14 AM
Jul 2020

They seem immune to detecting when their leaders shift the dialogue to the opposite of what they were saying yesterday.

onecaliberal

(32,826 posts)
35. But send you kids to school. She could literally rip off her pants and talk out her ass it would
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 11:15 AM
Jul 2020

Sound the same. The media is a failure. @whitehousepresscorp is an epic failure.

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
38. Typical GOP bullshit. Spinning reality. They love it--and they will all start falling in line now.
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 11:23 AM
Jul 2020

They'll see this as some light at the end of the Trump-downfall tunnel (coupled with his use of DHS on the protests), they will begin to crawl out from under their rocks now.

iluvtennis

(19,849 posts)
39. Disgusting. trump forced his red state governors to open up quickly knowing they didn't comply
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 11:26 AM
Jul 2020

with the CDC requirements. Now, he has the nerve to come back and say, they opened too quickly - it takes a special POS to do such a thing

OK since you said the states re-opened too soon, why aren't you all over the TV telling schools not to reopen - i only hear crickets from trump admin.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
41. DeVos is out telling schools to reopen and pushing the lie that kids are "stoppers" of Covid-19!
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 11:43 AM
Jul 2020

She's relying on a German study that has not been peer reviewed and whose own authors say it's findings do not apply in places like the US where the virus is out of control. Plus the study never said kids stop the virus, which they obviously do not, since they get sick and die from the virus.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/07/23/devoss-claim-that-children-are-stoppers-covid-19/

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
47. They didn't comply with the White House plan -
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 12:07 PM
Jul 2020

Both White House and CDC logos are on the plan that not a single state complied with: https://www.whitehouse.gov/openingamerica/

StarryNite

(9,443 posts)
40. Hey AZ gov doug ducey,
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 11:38 AM
Jul 2020

Remember doug, you opened AZ the day before tRump came to town in order to appease him and kiss his big, fat orange ass. How does it feel gov ducey to be under that bus? You stupid POS! Arizona is a train wreck.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
42. And this gives us a perfect window into how tRump managed to go bankrupt
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 11:49 AM
Jul 2020

so many times. He is unwilling and unable to develop a coherent strategy for anything. He makes rash decisions based on what he desperately thinks will help him. Anyone and anything that gets in his way is run over roughshod. Those that mistakenly think he will back them up if they just try to please him or go along with his whack-a-doodle schemes are deluded. Loyalty means nothing if throwing you overboard better suits him.

He has spun the narrative so well that he is a financial genius and has tried to cover the disastrous results so well, that many have been taken in by his tales. He truly has been the ultimate Snake Oil salesman. He learned his lessons about deceit and slick lies from his father and has passed along those traits to his three oldest children. If there is one ounce of Justice left in the world, all of them will be rounded up and given their day in court. Then once justice is meted out, they’ll spend the rest of their miserable lives thinking about their past crimes locked in prison. I have serious doubts they’ll ever have a moment of reckoning but maybe they will be stopped from inflicting their horrible influence on anyone else. Dying in prison, penniless should be tRump’s fate. I know it is just me hoping for some measure of Justice for the harm he has caused but I know I’m not the only one who feels that way.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
44. she seems to be a
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 11:51 AM
Jul 2020

malignant narcissistic sociopath insofar as she can't see her own very glaring shortcoming like her boss.

RussBLib

(9,006 posts)
46. she is actually correct
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 12:05 PM
Jul 2020

Some states did jump over the guidelines in their rush to open up. How convenient for the WH.

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
48. All states jumped over the guidelines -
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 12:08 PM
Jul 2020

even the ones that slowed down after jumping over the first gating requirement.

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