Mitt Romney Thinks Donald Trump Will Win Reelection

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Mitt Romney is one of Donald Trump’s biggest Republican critics on Capitol Hill. He’s the only GOP senator who voted to convict the president for abuse of power earlier this year, and he regularly calls Trump out on policy and personal conduct.

Yet the Utah lawmaker, who was his party’s presidential standard-bearer in 2012, believes Trump is likely to win reelection this November.

Asked why he foresees that outcome, especially with most public polls showing Trump trailing badly behind presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden, Romney offered three reasons.

“There are enormous advantages to being the incumbent, number one,” Romney told HuffPost on Thursday. “Number two, I think [Trump] will tack more towards the middle in his communication than he has so far.”

“And number three, I think the voters that are most animated in opposition to the president tend not to come out to vote ― and that’s young people and the minorities. They’re active in polls, but not necessarily active at actually getting out to the polls,” the senator said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/heres-why-mitt-romney-thinks-donald-trump-will-win-reelection/ar-BB1773wl?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=DELLDHP

Number 4 Mittens Romney is delusional.

COVID-19, the economy and Billy Barr's storm troopers are not going to help Hair Fuehrer no matter how moderate he trends. Not with 4 months left.

[irisblue]

1. R(m)oney thought he would win in 2012.

[onetexan]

7. LOL, spot on, and i agree w/ #4 from the poster

[agingdem]

9. I remember Nate Silver said

based on his tracking polls Obama was never is danger of not winning...

[tinrobot]

21. Because he thought Karl Rove would steal Ohio (again.)

Didn't happen.

[hlthe2b]

2. Something pretty motivating re: replacing someone who has killed your family/friends w incompetence,

bankrupted the country, and shown his utter disdain for all of us every damned day of his time in office...

How does that factor in, Mitt?

[PCIntern]

3. Yeah and his wife was wearing her prom dress

On election night 2012. He really thought he was going to win I am certain, he’s been listening to the Karl Roves of the world.

[TeamPooka]

4. Trump will try to tack to moderation. He might fail, but it's up to the DNC and Biden campaign

to remind people who trump really is and what's he done this year.

[rockfordfile]

28. true

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. He thought he'd win, too.

[DonaldsRump]

6. I agree, but we must fight at every step of the way

This is an existential threat to Trump and his mob. Many who are part of that mob will go to prison if he loses. He and any international forces supporting him (hint, hint) will do ANYTHING to win.

Romney is right. If the Ds and Joltin' Joe are lackadaisical, we will lose. I don't think for a moment we will, but we have to do EVERYTHING possible to stop Trump's winning. GOTV is the #1 thing that all of us can do at a microlevel.

[agingdem]

16. so are we once again going into chicken little mode because

Mitt Romney, the guy who lost to Obama and Biden for that matter, said he thinks Trump will win?...Ok, now in what was once considered a normal election cycle Romney's three points might give one pause but this is not a normal election cycle...this is the obscenity of Trump and his pandemic...relax...Biden's got this..

[DonaldsRump]

18. With great respect

You're clueless if you are willing to give this election to chance. You do understand that folks besides persons who are allowed to vote in US elections are interfering in this election? You do recall what happened in 2016?

If you are not willing to fight for every vote, you're probably not really committed.

[crimycarny]

24. With great respect

Nowhere did I see agingdem say he/she was willing to give this election up to chance. I also didn’t see him/her suggest that they weren’t willing to fight for every vote. What I DID see was a suggestion that Dem’s relax and don’t go into panic mode. And I agree.

You can be determined and maintain a positive outlook while still not taking the election for granted. I find “worry” to be draining. I need all my energy to fight to make sure Trump is defeated. So am I going to waste energy worrying over what Mitt Romney thinks? No. Now, if all of a sudden polls started going south for Biden, then yes—I’ll allow myself some worry.

[DonaldsRump]

26. With great respect, what exactly do you mean by "chicken little mode"

WAKE UP.

[crimycarny]

30. ??

You mean run around and yell “the sky is falling?” because Mitt Romney predicted Trump would win? Sorry, I’ll stick to keeping my eye on the ball.

Don’t presume that just because someone says they aren’t worried about what Mitt Romney thinks—which is what this thread is about—that somehow means they aren’t working as hard as they can to make sure Trump is defeated.

You wanna worry about Mitt? Go ahead. Meanwhile I have my local “get out the vote” zoom meeting to prepare for.

[DonaldsRump]

33. I have no idea why you keep this up

Any sane and committed person wanting Biden to win would fight. You seem to be happy to relax.

You, and the other poster, seem to love the "chicken little" analogy. I have no care whatsoever about what Mitt Romney, the "chicken little" poster, or you seem to think. This is a battle for the US.

Have fun with your "chicken little" analogy!

[crimycarny]

37. You seem to have a major disconnect

Once again, the subject matter at hand is Mitt Romney predicting Trump will win and what significance that has. My stance is “who cares what Mitt Romney thinks, let’s keep our eye on the ball”, which you keep conflating to being blasé about the 2020 election in total.

Geez, once again I’m reminded of the comment someone made on this board when everyone was having the same freak outs over Obama’s chances in 2008. (Obama himself was telling people to chill out).

The comment was about the differences between Republicans and Democrats. “Tell a Republican about a poll where their candidate does poorly and they want to kill you. Tell a Democrat the same and they will want to kill themselves.” It’s so true!

I refuse to go forward in fear, there is just too much of that right now. I choose to go forward with hope and determination.

[DonaldsRump]

38. Yup, you are disconnected

There is absolutely no fear. The issue is to keep fighting. If we don't fight, we'll lose, as the Republicans' sole strategy is voter suppression, gerrymandering, dirty tricks etc.

There is no fear: the issue is that there is no complacency.

[agingdem]

31. not clueless...

I understand exactly what's going on...we Democrats are very often our own worst enemy, the party of "nice", but not this election..when BLM took to the streets we stopped being the party of "nice"..do I think Biden in the White House is a sure thing...no, but, this election is about revenge...revenge for Russian interference, revenge for our diminished standing in the world, revenge for the White House as trump's personal ATM, revenge for trump's attempt to normalize racial and ethnic hatred, and revenge for a pandemic that destroyed lives and turned our world upside down..I don't take one vote for granted but with all the garbage trump and his sycophants are throwing around like monkeys throwing poop I feel a change coming...for once we have to stop with the pearl clutching and project positive...who gives a damn what mitt thinks!

[DonaldsRump]

34. There is no "pearl clutching" or "chicken little" here... maybe with you and the other poster

This is a fight for the US. If you think this is some gentlemen's game of chess, it's not.

There is absolutely no time or reason to relax between now and November 3.

[agingdem]

36. focus...

I am a 72 year old widow, mother of two, grandmother of 5 and a lifelong Democrat...I put my money where my mouth is...I march, I go door to door, I drive...and this time , this election, is different...fear of losing has no place in this election...in this oh shit world Biden is the voice of calm and reason..please let's follow his lead..

[DonaldsRump]

39. I'm not that dissimilar.

I'm also a PoC. And I happen to be a lawyer.

All of us need to fight like hell. Our lives, and those of our families and friends and fellow Americans depend on it. Phrases like "chicken little" and "pearl clutching" have no relevancy. This is a fight for eternity.

I HAVE NO FEAR. I ALSO HAVE NO COMPLACENCY.

[crimycarny]

41. Who said anything about complacency?

No one said anything about being complacent except for you.

[DonaldsRump]

43. Good lord, you're the one saying "relax"

You can relax. Not the rest of us who care.

This is a fight for the soul of the US, and if you want to "relax", go to Corpus Christi or Miami Beach, and relax all you want.

The rest of us will fight, not "relax".

[crimycarny]

45. Sigh

Oh grow up and get off your high moralizing horse. I prefer to be more like no-drama Obama and keep my eye on the ball.

[DonaldsRump]

46. ????

You're the one that needs to grow up with your highly mature phrases like "relax", "pearl clutching", etc.

Get real, and get over your ad hominem/puerile attacks.

[crimycarny]

47. I said neither

I didn’t tell you to relax nor did I talk about clutching pearls.

[agingdem]

49. yes...relax and stay vigilant

I don't mean "wake me when it's over" relax ..I mean calm and methodical..we can't lose our lunch every time a Romney or any other idiot spits out a "warning"... we've taken to the streets and we're holding the media accountable..we call them on their "both sides do it" crap...we don't let anything slide and this time we've got people that hate trump more than they hate democrats working to get our guy elected...I've lived thru Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush I, Bush II...this time it's different...

[crimycarny]

56. I agree

Everyone is spooked by what happened in 2016. This isn’t 2016. First of all, though Trump was so obviously a con man and liar, he seemed innocuous to many. I think a lot of people thought he’d be a figurehead and life would go on as normal. That narrative has certainly been laid bare.

Then you had the irrational anti-Hillary phenomena (which I still don’t understand).

2020 is a whole different ball game. Based on what happened in 2016, NO one is going to take 2020 for granted. That being said I won’t breathe easy until it’s over which is why I can’t waste energy worrying about some random headline like Mitt Romney predicting a Trump win. Mitt Romney, the same guy who was so sure he was going to win in 2012 that he didn’t even write a concession speech. Yeah, not going to lose much sleep over a Mitt Romney prediction.

[agingdem]

57. 2016 Trump was a novelty

2020 Trump is a catastrophe ... and his PR machine can send in the clowns to all media outlets to translate, gaslight and defend trump's vicious verbal diarrhea but the optics don't lie... he's stupid, depraved, greedy and cruel...he's emotionally stunted and criminally insane...he's hates with a red-hot passion but Trump's hatred is not limited to "the other"..his brand of hate extends to anyone who questions his authority, his veracity, and his mental stability..as a country we are palpably disgusted by his inhumane indifference to this pandemic and the horrendous loss of lives...he can have his moronic followers and his enablers in the senate and the house...this election cycle is different...we're different...we want calm...we want our house back...the White House

[crimycarny]

40. Maybe a better term than "relax" is "focus"

All of us are terrified at the prospect of Trump winning re-election, I don’t think there is a person on this board who doesn’t feel this election is likely one of the most important in our lifetimes. It truly feels like a fight to save our Democracy. The stakes have never been higher.

Because of the high stakes it’s more important than ever not to get distracted by things that don’t matter, and—in my opinion—an outlier opinion of one man (Mitt Romney) falls into that category.

This election is NOT the same was 2016. Trump was untested at that time, that’s not the case now. Now he has been tested and failed miserably. I think many Americans, of all political stripes, have been shocked by an erosion in our checks and balances that we never in a million years wouldn’t have thought possible. No..this is not 2016. Do we still need to fight like hell? Yes. But that is all the more reason to pick our battles and not get side-tracked.

[Thomas Hurt]

8. RE: No. 2...I thought Mormons eschewed mind altering substances of all kinds.

[OrlandoDem2]

10. His number 3 is not necessarily wrong. We lost MI, PA, and WI

in 2016 because POC didn’t vote in large numbers in Philly, Detroit, and Milwaukee.

And I’m still waiting for young people to shed their historical baggage and vote.

[SlogginThroughIt]

22. You honestly believe that?

They didn’t vote or weren’t given the opportunity to vote? Anyone remember machines with no power cords and other such shenanigans?

[gohuskies]

11. Trump will not get a pass for Covid 19

Mitt is delusional. The Covid19 disaster is all on Trump and the rethuglican apparatchiks and their acquiescence to Vlad the Impaler. This will stick to the Trumpanistas forever. This is an unparalleled disaster of the Orange dictator’s own making. Then toss in the Barr led gestapo and i just see no way for re-election in the cards unless everything is torn asunder.

[empedocles]

12. Not thinking trump will win at all. However, Newsweek's shows trump still leads on economy.

'Former Vice President Joe Biden is closing the gap between himself and President Donald Trump on the economy, with a new poll putting the pair at a statistical tie on the key election issue.

The latest survey from Morning Consult found that 44 percent of voters trusted Trump more on the economy, while 43 percent said the same of Biden, putting the president's lead within the poll's 2-point margin of error.

When the same poll was conducted last month, Trump had a 4-point lead over his Democratic challenger, down by half from his 8-point lead on the economy in April.' 7-23--2020, Newsweek.

That being said, Romney's conclusion may be trashed here, but Romney's 3 points are viable points.

Remember, too, that republicon voters overwhelmingly [somehow] think trump is good at the economy

[My personal opinion is that the economy, school openings, virus and virus bungles, and trump himself - will all get markedly , more dire].

[cyndensco]

13. I think he is wrong about "minorities" sitting out this election.

Everyone I know is anxious to get it out of office. We have a whole lot more to lose.

Romney is just justifying his loss to President Obama. It is easier for him to accept being at a disadvantage running against the incumbent and losing instead of just being the inferior candidate.

[stillcool]

14. What world does he live in?

perfect example of how disconnected the Republican party is. Their lines were written for them a half a century ago, and they've never felt the need to do a re-write.

[qazplm135]

15. if trump were polling in the mid 40s

he'd have a point about young voters. But Trump is polling in the low 40s to high 30s. Even if all the young voters stay home, how's that going to help Trump?

[JHB]

17. This is the same Mitt who blamed "people who just want stuff" for his loss...

Who's foreign policy advisors were the same gaggle of PNAC gallery goons who thought the Iraq war as a swell thing.

Who sat down to dinner with Donnie to try to swing a high-profile job, only to find himself the lamb-to-a-slaughter in a Trump photo op with Donnie grinning like the Devil himself.

Now, we should push to GOTV as if Joe were as far behind as he is ahead, but let's not imbue Mittens with more perceptiveness than he's shown already.

After all, remember the Chinese factory story in the 47% video? The bit about the fence being to keep clamoring workers out rather than oppressed workers in?

Much like Trump, he simply believed what the salesman told him. Never accept the "wisdom" of a Republican "businessman politician."

[Bleacher Creature]

19. You all see why this is such a self-serving statement, right?

Mitt lost in 2012 because Obama was a better candidate. Certainly Obama benefited from his incumbency, but Mitt has to overstate that advantage to convince himself that it was the only reason he lost.

[SlogginThroughIt]

23. Exactly!

[Gidney N Cloyd]

52. That's a great point.

[RANDYWILDMAN]

20. #5 his party and voter suppression

Yeah Mitt, Remember that in Purple states like Wisconsin and Arizona and North Carolina and Ohio and Florida, you and your party make it very hard for young people and POC to vote and if they do you make them stand in line all freakin day !!!!!

[crimycarny]

25. Got 3 Gen-Z kids

And I can tell you the Gen-Z crowd is fired up to vote. It doesn’t matter if they are excited about Biden because what is driving them is the desire to get Trump out.

[SoonerPride]

27. We have a binder full of voters

And they aren’t sitting at home

[Stuart G]

29. Trump will lose big,,3 reasons He is 1) a liar, 2) a con man and 3) a bully..3 for 3..

And most people do not like the last one...that is unless you too are a bully...

[MagickMuffin]

32. Pres. Carter 1 Term Pres. Bush 1 Term

Some more

Ford, Hoover, Taft


Sorry Mittens but you be dreaming and I'm gonna wake you up. IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN, unless you "KNOW" how your party is going to steal it AGAIN!

[texasfiddler]

35. Trump will tack more towards the middle?

Bullshit!!!!!!!!!!! Trump is not capable of that. No matter how hard he tries, he will fail. Therefore, Mitt is wrong on item number 2.

[crimycarny]

42. Exactly!!!!!!

Mitt is talking about what a normal politician would do. Trump is a sociopath ... he is incapable of tacking to the middle for more than a microsecond.

[maximusveritas]

44. I'd much rather be hearing this message than people saying how easy Biden will win

We need to stay focused and not let up for a second.
We also need to make sure that the young people and minorities realize this is their chance to prove the establishment wrong and show that they matter.

[Demsrule86]

50. We have a pandemic which Trump did not manage well...143,000 people are dead...and

our economy is in the toilet...Trump is gassing Moms...he won't win.

[yellowcanine]

48. Yeah, Okay, I don't think Mittens knows how to count votes. That said, he makes a couple of valid

points. We do need to worry about whether polls translate into voting, so GOTV!

[DFW]

51. Mitt, Mitt, Mitt

If you are still capable of rational thought, then don't lie in public.

[struggle4progress]

53. Maybe he should just ride up and down in his car elevator

[Evergreen Emerald]

54. I believe Trump will steal the election

He will steal it again with the help of the Senate and Putin. Trump does not want write in voting because they can't hack the paper ballots. In 2016 Putin changed votes just enough to give Trump the win.

For 2020 they are focused on destroying USPS before the election and limiting voting locations/ times/ dates. They are spending our tax dollars on fake senate hearings to put Biden in a bad light...like they did with Hillary (although they worked on the destruction of Hillary for decades). They know they cannot win fairly.

They are dismantling out rule of law, and have gutted our democracy.

It is time to head to the streets. Oh, wait...they are attempting to limit that with an undemocratic attack on our citizens.

[writes3000]

55. Of Course, This Is Exactly What Mitt Would Say...

First, it keeps him from being called anti-Republican.

Second, it creates what reaction? It pisses off minorities and young people. It motivates the people who need to be motivated.

Mitt is playing the role of Michael Moore here.