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dajoki

(10,678 posts)
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 12:37 PM Jul 2020

Anyone who thinks Romney's an honorable repub better get straight

GOP coronavirus relief package to include Romney bill that would ‘fast-track Social Security and Medicare cuts’
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/gop-relief-package-to-include-romney-bill-that-would-fast-track-social-security-and-medicare-cuts/

Shortly after publicly ditching one attack on Social Security—the payroll tax cut—Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell confirmed Thursday that the Republican coronavirus relief package will include legislation sponsored by Sen. Mitt Romney that one advocacy group described as an “equally menacing” threat to the New Deal program.

In a speech on the Senate floor, McConnell touted Romney’s TRUST ACT as “a bipartisan bill, co-sponsored by Senate Democrats, to help a future Congress evaluate bipartisan proposals for protecting and strengthening the programs that Americans count on.”

“In the midst of a catastrophic pandemic, they should be focused on protecting seniors, essential workers, and the unemployed. Instead, they are plotting to use the cover of the pandemic to slash Social Security.”
—Nancy Altman, Social Security Works

Ostensibly an effort to “rescue” America’s trust fund programs, Romney’s bill—first introduced last October with the backing of three Democratic senators—would initiate a secretive process that could result in cuts to Social Security and Medicare benefits, a longtime objective of lawmakers like the Utah Republican.

Romney celebrated the inclusion of his bill Thursday and pointed to statements praising the legislation from a slew of right-wing advocacy groups, including the Koch-funded organization Americans for Prosperity.

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Anyone who thinks Romney's an honorable repub better get straight (Original Post) dajoki Jul 2020 OP
Never forget Mr. 47%!!! 2naSalit Jul 2020 #1
Don't be naive AkFemDem Jul 2020 #2
The enemy of my enemy Dyedinthewoolliberal Jul 2020 #3
I think he is honorable. I also think he's wrong. Drunken Irishman Jul 2020 #4
He also just predicted that tRUMP will win re-election because Dems will not vote. WyattKansas Jul 2020 #5
I saw that too but didn't read it n/t dajoki Jul 2020 #6
Wants to cut SS and Medicare. Yep, he's a repug, impeachment vote notwithstanding. brush Jul 2020 #7
no, he is mealy-mouthed, flip flopper, like Sessions he has no self respect. Thomas Hurt Jul 2020 #8
Romney has the potential to be the next Reagan Yeehah Jul 2020 #9
Yep. Scratch any old style Repug zentrum Jul 2020 #27
Any Mfer who ties their Dog to the top of their car montanacowboy Jul 2020 #10
Democrats 90% honest, Republicans .9% honest cynical_idealist Jul 2020 #11
It is the Dem co-sponsors we need to address delisen Jul 2020 #12
I'll do what I can to vote out Sinema. She voted FOR Barr, as did Manchin and Jones. nt in2herbs Jul 2020 #14
Yes, he still has a couple principles (like the vote to convict Trump) mvd Jul 2020 #13
There were two impeachment votes, one to impeach and one requiring release of subpoenaed in2herbs Jul 2020 #15
Yep mvd Jul 2020 #39
He also knew that his vote was meaningless and might garner him a few kuds from the Democrats. erronis Jul 2020 #35
True mvd Jul 2020 #38
He is an honorable Republican BUT he is is no way remotely a Democrat. Tom Rinaldo Jul 2020 #16
exactly, I don't know why people think Republicans need to change their views JI7 Jul 2020 #21
Although I've always disagreed with much of what Romney stands for calguy Jul 2020 #17
his true morality is displayed in his votes and actions not his BS propaganda nt msongs Jul 2020 #19
A man of integrity and high morality? Telll that to those who lost their jobs because of Bain in2herbs Jul 2020 #20
He's hoping for one last Republican run for presidency in 2024. Opposing Trump now? argyl Jul 2020 #42
Just like Lincoln Project, use them if they are helping. we can do it Jul 2020 #18
Use them to help get rid... dajoki Jul 2020 #40
Exactly. we can do it Jul 2020 #41
Mitt has one guiding principle: The poor are disposable and the rich have a God-given right to steal dalton99a Jul 2020 #22
Do you think Republicans should only criticize Trump if they change their political views ? JI7 Jul 2020 #23
Being "honorable" doesn't mean being "a Democrat" or "progressive." Not in my book, anyway. nt LAS14 Jul 2020 #24
Nothing more needs to be said than this... Javaman Jul 2020 #25
fascists are never anything but fascists. nt yaesu Jul 2020 #26
Bain Capital, yortsed snacilbuper Jul 2020 #28
No vulture capitalist will EVER be OK/honorable in my book Scalded Nun Jul 2020 #29
guy's always been a sleaze - the Romney name is code for "untrustworthy shitheel" - hi Ronna! bringthePaine Jul 2020 #30
K&R for exposure diva77 Jul 2020 #31
K and R Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #32
AND Romney was supported by everyone involved in The Lincoln Project, and they'd do it again... BamaRefugee Jul 2020 #33
There are no honorable Republicans... paleotn Jul 2020 #34
Haven't forgotten the vulture, I don't want him or anyone like him in govt. Brainfodder Jul 2020 #36
There is no such thing Lokee11 Jul 2020 #37
He is not honorable CatLady78 Jul 2020 #43

AkFemDem

(1,823 posts)
2. Don't be naive
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 12:48 PM
Jul 2020

Romney is a republican. He has republican beliefs. He supports republican platforms. If he didn’t then he’d be a democrat. There is nothing shocking in this.

He can be an “honorable republican” and still support the antithesis of DNC platform. People can admire his willingness to stand up to tyranny in his own party- and still work to see his seat flipped blue.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
5. He also just predicted that tRUMP will win re-election because Dems will not vote.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 12:50 PM
Jul 2020

I just seen it before clicking onto here.

Yeehah

(4,585 posts)
9. Romney has the potential to be the next Reagan
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 01:10 PM
Jul 2020

Destroy democracy; enrich the wealthy and enslave the working class - all while republicans and democrats alike hail him as the fatherly figure we need as a president.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
27. Yep. Scratch any old style Repug
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 02:35 PM
Jul 2020

…..and you find Saint Reagan. Where the dismantling of America began.

Absolute Trojan horses.

montanacowboy

(6,083 posts)
10. Any Mfer who ties their Dog to the top of their car
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 01:15 PM
Jul 2020

in a crate for a road trip is a dirty low down SOB, without principles or morals. Remember how he kissed the Dump's ass for the Sec of State Job? Literally groveled at his feet and the the Dump kissed him off; he had it coming.

Hey Mitt, go to hell and straight past your private planet

delisen

(6,042 posts)
12. It is the Dem co-sponsors we need to address
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 01:27 PM
Jul 2020

It should be unthinkable for any Den senator to put social security at risk especially after the giveaways to big business and Trumpers.

Social Security needs to be seen as a settled right not a damned bargaining chip. We cannot progress while we must use up our energy fighting old battles.

Sinema. Manchin. Jones. Time to find other
bargaining points.

mvd

(65,173 posts)
13. Yes, he still has a couple principles (like the vote to convict Trump)
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 01:27 PM
Jul 2020

But he’s much in favor of the system designed to keep the rich getting richer while exploiting everyone else.

in2herbs

(2,945 posts)
15. There were two impeachment votes, one to impeach and one requiring release of subpoenaed
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 01:38 PM
Jul 2020

documents. He voted against requiring trump to do the latter. So much for transparency in government under Romney.

Don't forget Bain Capital and the lives/jobs that were destroyed by Romney by Bain. Romney is an R.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
35. He also knew that his vote was meaningless and might garner him a few kuds from the Democrats.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:30 PM
Jul 2020

McTurtle and RMoney had a good chuckle on this strategy.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
16. He is an honorable Republican BUT he is is no way remotely a Democrat.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 01:45 PM
Jul 2020

Republican is the key word in the above description, honorable or not. Just like the bite of some snakes is more or less lethal than the bite of others. Worth noting perhaps but snakes none the less.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
21. exactly, I don't know why people think Republicans need to change their views
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 02:23 PM
Jul 2020

on issues to oppose the corrupt Trump trash.

Nobody thinks he became a liberal just becsuse he criticized and opposed Trump on obviously corrupt shit.

calguy

(5,306 posts)
17. Although I've always disagreed with much of what Romney stands for
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 01:47 PM
Jul 2020

I would never consider him anything less than an honorable person. He is a man of integrity and high morality. I would never cast my vote for him but that does not mean I do not respect him. Not all republicans are bad people just because their positions differ from our own.

in2herbs

(2,945 posts)
20. A man of integrity and high morality? Telll that to those who lost their jobs because of Bain
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 02:21 PM
Jul 2020

Capital. Romney's made millions using Bain Capital, all at the expense of the middle class. Not my definition of a man of integrity and high morality.

argyl

(3,064 posts)
42. He's hoping for one last Republican run for presidency in 2024. Opposing Trump now?
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:10 PM
Jul 2020

That's a no brainer. The most unpopular Republican President since Hoover and for a hell of a lot more reasons than Hoover.
So compared to Trump he's an honorable man. Compared to Romney Hoover was an honorable man.

dalton99a

(81,454 posts)
22. Mitt has one guiding principle: The poor are disposable and the rich have a God-given right to steal
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 02:24 PM
Jul 2020

JI7

(89,247 posts)
23. Do you think Republicans should only criticize Trump if they change their political views ?
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 02:25 PM
Jul 2020

I don't know why you are surprised by this.

Obama would say Romney was an honorable person but that didn't stop him from kicking his ass in 2012 and going after him on the issues

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
34. There are no honorable Republicans...
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:15 PM
Jul 2020

Hasn't been in maybe 50 years. There are only those less dishonorable than others. And that goes for Romney, Lincoln Project, George Conway and on and on. They may be useful in combating the recent existential threat, but make no mistake, they're still the enemy of everything decent and good.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
36. Haven't forgotten the vulture, I don't want him or anyone like him in govt.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:33 PM
Jul 2020

Filthy rich people should not be in government at all IMHO.

Look at what these self serving greedy assholes do, not what they say.

Lokee11

(235 posts)
37. There is no such thing
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 04:08 PM
Jul 2020

as an honorable Trumplican, and anyone still claiming to be part of that party, is a Trumplican!

I'll give him credit on his 1 count vote to impeach, but doing what was blatantly the right thing to do, does not make you worthy of adulation, it makes you not a piece of shit in that particular instance.

FDT

CatLady78

(1,041 posts)
43. He is not honorable
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 10:09 AM
Jul 2020

If any of this is true:
https://www.nationalmemo.com/10-forgotten-scandals-surrounding-mitt-romney

https://www.alternet.org/2012/08/7-scandals-reveal-real-mitt-romney/

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-183291/

Alternet is well alternet. I am not sure what the National Memo is but mediabiascheck says they are left leaning and their reporting is mostly factual. Of course mediabiasfactcheck is apparently an amateur website. Maybe Matt Taibi is considered too far to the left. But with those caveats, going by those articles, he is not even honorable.

I don't have the time to check all that but you guys can correct me if I am wrong. I think his so-called honor is probably bs. He is less overtly vulgar than Trump. This guy is as sleazy as most of them are. It isn't about purity. I have little use for purity. I think Romney is actually a particularly evil and dangerous man. I could be wrong. Like I said, I am not an expert on Romney. But my gut feeling (and yes I sound like Bush ) is that he is neither moderate nor honorable. I stand corrected if those articles are wrong or misrepresenting things.

While it is admittedly a leading search, "Bain Capital scandals" brings up lots of links.

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