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Yavin4

(35,433 posts)
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 01:16 PM Jul 2020

My advice to the Democrats if they take control of the Federal government in January.

Dear Democrats,

Should you take complete control of the Federal government in January, you need to act as if you are the sole national party of the U.S. What does that mean? Right now, all Americans are in some stage of crisis, either ill from the disease, unemployed, and/or have no means to send their children to school. What's the Republican response? Nothing. The Republicans have completely abdicated their responsibility to govern this nation. They simply do not care about the people they are supposed to lead.

That means that you have to act unilaterally to address this emergency. Do not seek out bi-partisan support. If you have to kill the filibuster to get help to the American people. Do it. Do not hesitate. Do not concern yourself with budget deficits. If a foreign army had invaded the U.S. and killed 150,000 Americans, we would be writing blank checks to our military. This is the same situation.

Think big to find solutions to this crisis.

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My advice to the Democrats if they take control of the Federal government in January. (Original Post) Yavin4 Jul 2020 OP
K&R onecaliberal Jul 2020 #1
My hope is that everyone of these fascists be held accountable. They are the enemy. olegramps Jul 2020 #81
I couldn't agree more. The criminals must be punished. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #82
If the country is lucky, and we win the WH and both houses of Congress, the first thing we still_one Jul 2020 #2
Save the republic by decimating the Republicans lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #22
This☝️ I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2020 #34
Ignore the Banana Republic label and punish all illegality StClone Jul 2020 #63
And Puerto Rico, if it's willing. soldierant Jul 2020 #33
If it is willing still_one Jul 2020 #47
Also, take steps to redress the imbalance in power thucythucy Jul 2020 #3
I would add campaign finance reform to your list. n/t Yavin4 Jul 2020 #4
Absolutely. thucythucy Jul 2020 #5
Get rid of Citizens United. n/t Greybnk48 Jul 2020 #6
Restore the VRA, Voting Rights Act, The Fairness Doctrine appalachiablue Jul 2020 #75
no that is going to require a constitutional amendment...we need to send help to an Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #13
Trump appointees can be terminated immediately and KPN Jul 2020 #40
100% agree with everything you said except this: dixiechiken1 Jul 2020 #15
Agree 100% geardaddy Jul 2020 #38
EVERY SINGLE TRUMP APPOINTEE BlueMTexpat Jul 2020 #78
The fatal flaw in the constitution zipplewrath Jul 2020 #30
Get rid of the flaw I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2020 #35
The senate is unalterable zipplewrath Jul 2020 #39
Maybe we will have to do that I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2020 #49
Gonna be hard to do zipplewrath Jul 2020 #51
Where in the Constitution does it say thucythucy Jul 2020 #67
Article 5 zipplewrath Jul 2020 #87
Thanks thucythucy Jul 2020 #91
I particularly like this suggestion: volstork Jul 2020 #31
They can all be dumped on January 20 -- day 1 -- KPN Jul 2020 #43
It's the judges volstork Jul 2020 #57
Yes. They are not Executive Branch and not so KPN Jul 2020 #60
I would expel all Russian diplomats from the United States at 12:01pm on Jan 21 47of74 Jul 2020 #54
I add gerrymandering needs fixing on a national level.And voter suppression. And fierywoman Jul 2020 #65
I personally think this should be #1 priority. Pobeka Jul 2020 #74
Would have to fix the SCOTUS imbalance first and in such a way that the Republicans will not be able cstanleytech Jul 2020 #77
Fix the damage to the Post Office ashling Jul 2020 #107
Yup, that's about right. Nitram Jul 2020 #7
Nancy Pelosi will be the first to call the Capital Police to escort Donnie out he refuses to leave. Lonestarblue Jul 2020 #11
Elizabeth Warren will zentrum Jul 2020 #8
YES. ancianita Jul 2020 #9
Here's the Democrat's answer to republicon whining, stalling and blubbering FoxNewsSucks Jul 2020 #12
But I'm not Leith Jul 2020 #14
Hah! I'm inclined to agree. ancianita Jul 2020 #16
Just play by their rules. Steamroller right over them. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #23
I don't want us to be like them. I want: Fairer voting. Single issue bills. Straight up or down. ancianita Jul 2020 #26
"No bullshit haggling." - That's what I'm saying. Dems have to just get it done. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #36
I want them empowered I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2020 #50
You are 100% right...just do it... no BS fake maybe from the other side like they (K&R) Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #10
864511320 bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #17
Numbers don't lie! calimary Jul 2020 #25
This! KPN Jul 2020 #45
+1 crickets Jul 2020 #58
All depends on who the Majority Leader is. Wellstone ruled Jul 2020 #18
We gotta get Him out too. flying_wahini Jul 2020 #27
Build a justice department Mr.Bill Jul 2020 #19
I beg to differ on one small point Fritz Walter Jul 2020 #20
Great idea. theaocp Jul 2020 #21
I would hope our politicians have been bitten enough by now. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #24
And every time I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2020 #37
Agree 100% Catch2.2 Jul 2020 #28
Good points. Sogo Jul 2020 #29
If this happens and Repuke's are routed like '06 and '08. Kick them right in the balls when they're Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2020 #32
Yes! paleotn Jul 2020 #41
UBI of $5000 per month for anyone over 18. MichMan Jul 2020 #42
While I am not sure if that is a good idea for them to do but if and I mean IF they do then cstanleytech Jul 2020 #44
Agreed 10000000000% BigDemVoter Jul 2020 #46
All that AND.... SayItLoud Jul 2020 #48
Yes to all including all the suggestions above. Go Big and Go Bold. Spend on healthcare, c-rational Jul 2020 #52
Absolutely right! Plus, I was thinking the same thing that .... HootieMcBoob Jul 2020 #53
Have a list of indictments ready to go. Miigwech Jul 2020 #55
One detail. ChazInAz Jul 2020 #68
On the day after the election is determined, TNNurse Jul 2020 #56
#1) Immediately disclose everything the tRUMP Administration has been doing. WyattKansas Jul 2020 #59
Best post I have seen in quite a while. warmfeet Jul 2020 #61
Expand the federal bench jmowreader Jul 2020 #62
First, we have to GET there. In the months ahead, 45 is working hard to see we don't. ancianita Jul 2020 #64
YES Skittles Jul 2020 #66
My advice 47of74 Jul 2020 #69
Time to increase the SC to 15 justices and pack it with liberals captain queeg Jul 2020 #70
if? what other option is there? certainot Jul 2020 #71
Well said tiptonic Jul 2020 #72
This x 1000 Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #73
Crazy Idea and Not Sure it Would Work tinymontgomery Jul 2020 #76
All Votes In The United States nwliberalkiwi Jul 2020 #79
After arresting and trying the guilty anti-democratic revolutionaries, we need opposition. NNadir Jul 2020 #80
first.... paul91046 Jul 2020 #83
welcome to DU gopiscrap Jul 2020 #86
Welcome to DU. mahina Jul 2020 #103
I regret to say I agree completely DFW Jul 2020 #84
Pull out all the stops and kick their asses down into the ground captain queeg Jul 2020 #85
Killing the filibuster is what got us the McConnell Senate. Nothing is forever. oldsoftie Jul 2020 #88
"Killing the filibuster is what got us the McConnell Senate" What?! Yavin4 Jul 2020 #89
Harry Reid was first to change the rules. oldsoftie Jul 2020 #92
We. Are. In. A. Crisis. Yavin4 Jul 2020 #93
I'm afraid the virus is here to stay in a bad way a lot longer than 9 months oldsoftie Jul 2020 #95
I also want Joe to send some federal law enforcement to camp out all over Dumbfuckistan Murika maxrandb Jul 2020 #90
Same here 47of74 Jul 2020 #96
Also, no "let's move on" - prosecute to the full extent of the law meadowlander Jul 2020 #94
And build a permanent marble gallows between the White House and US Capitol 47of74 Jul 2020 #97
If we GOTV & give the dems the WH & both chambers of Congress, they'd better go bold, CrispyQ Jul 2020 #98
Actually, the Dems have two years to pull us out of the ditch. Yavin4 Jul 2020 #100
You're right. It's even worse than I pictured. CrispyQ Jul 2020 #101
They need to have the courage of Portland zentrum Jul 2020 #99
"If a foreign army had invaded the U.S. and killed 150,000 Americans, we would be writing ..." Ligyron Jul 2020 #102
That advice has already been pre-denied quakerboy Jul 2020 #104
They must not make the same mistake that so many Democratic majorities have made before, GETPLANING Jul 2020 #105
and.... paul91046 Jul 2020 #106

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
81. My hope is that everyone of these fascists be held accountable. They are the enemy.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 10:01 AM
Jul 2020

The duty of every citizen is to hold accountable every enemy, both foreign and DOMESTIC of the Constitution. Excuse my use of caps to only emphasize the illegality of this administration.

still_one

(92,122 posts)
2. If the country is lucky, and we win the WH and both houses of Congress, the first thing we
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 01:22 PM
Jul 2020

must do eliminate the filibuster.

Next thing is make Washington DC a state. For years we have faced a disadvantage with only two Senators from each state, regardless of size, and this will solve that problem for years to come

After that we undo the destruction of our republican that the republicans have been doing for years

StClone

(11,683 posts)
63. Ignore the Banana Republic label and punish all illegality
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 07:59 PM
Jul 2020

To the full extent of law and available resources. It could look bad. But, it is the right thing and an example must be set. Watergate pardons, Iran contra-gate run around, Bush's illegal war/war crimes and now Trumpism. Time to end it.

thucythucy

(8,045 posts)
3. Also, take steps to redress the imbalance in power
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 01:33 PM
Jul 2020

that sees a minority party more and more out of step with the vast majority of voters somehow ending up in control of the presidency, the Congress, and the judiciary.

The Democratic candidate for the presidency won the plurality of votes in six out of the past seven elections, and yet the GOP took the White House in three of those elections.

Vast swaths of voters aren't even represented by voting members in Congress, the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico come immediately to mind. There should be an immediate push for statehood for both of them.

There also needs to be some sort of commission set up to examine all the Trump appointments to offices in the executive branch, with the goal of weeding out appointees who are clearly incompetent and even opposed to the goals of their department.

Congress needs to hold hearings on Russian and other foreign influence in our government, on how the COVID relief money was spent, on "faith based initiatives" that have funneled money into racist, homophobic, and misogynist organizations, on right wing infiltration of the police and the military, on the use of paramilitary groups to crush dissent, on the failed response to the pandemic, on the gutting of environmental and civil rights regulations, on the compromising of science at the CDC and elsewhere, and on whatever other atrocities and have committed these past four years.

Investigations also need to be launched into possible illegalities committed by the Trump clan involved in government, including violations of the Hatch Act and the emoluments clause of the Constitution.

Legislation must be passed requiring all presidential candidates to release at least ten years worth of their tax returns.

Legislation must be passed requiring all holders of public office to put their personal business into blind trusts during the length of their terms in office.

And some way must be found to gut the Electoral College's ability to assign presidents regardless of the choice of the voters.

There's more, but this is for starters. If we can get these measures passed we can help insure that the will of the people will be respected going into the future.

appalachiablue

(41,118 posts)
75. Restore the VRA, Voting Rights Act, The Fairness Doctrine
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 11:06 PM
Jul 2020

for media and Sherman Anti Trust. The list is enormous..

Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
13. no that is going to require a constitutional amendment...we need to send help to an
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 02:19 PM
Jul 2020

increasingly desperate Americans...that is our first task...this includes money sent directly to Americans...even the employed many who have taken pay cuts, fixing the ACA , jobs program, investment in manufacturing and other jobs and fix taxes to fund it. I would also increase the SS tax for higher incomes-pay on the entire income. Also fix Wall Street gambling ...first step make them pay payroll taxes on their income. Many support themselves with capital gains income. And lastly, raise the minimum wage which will help the economy.

KPN

(15,642 posts)
40. Trump appointees can be terminated immediately and
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:34 PM
Jul 2020

temporarily replaced with career employees if need be to manage agency operations. Career employees are typically invested and support the mission and fundamental goals of the federal agencies. This is not always the case with appointees— tRump appointees being the best (or, in effect mission-wise, worst) example. Can tRump appointees day one.

dixiechiken1

(2,113 posts)
15. 100% agree with everything you said except this:
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 02:21 PM
Jul 2020
There also needs to be some sort of commission set up to examine all the Trump appointments to offices in the executive branch, with the goal of weeding out appointees who are clearly incompetent and even opposed to the goals of their department.


I don't believe we need a commission. Dump all of his appointments. Every. Single. One. On day one. We already know what qualification Trump considered necessary for them to be appointed in the first place: loyalty to Trump.

In 3-1/2 years, he hasn't appointed or nominated anyone based on their experience in government or their knowledge of the department to which they were appointed. Let the career government employees continue on and bring those who were unceremoniously "you're fired"-ed (is too a word) back into the fold, if they so choose.

We have got to rebuild our government from the ground up again to undo the damage that shitstain has done. IMO, the first step towards that end is to clean house. Quickly & mercilessly.

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
78. EVERY SINGLE TRUMP APPOINTEE
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 04:44 AM
Jul 2020

at ANY LEVEL should go.

There should ALSO be a review of ANY Civil Service employee from Jan 2017-Jan 2021 whose hire was NOT based on merit and qualifications. Unless merit and qualifications can be demonstrated, OUT they go!

I wholeheartedly agree with your statement below:

We have got to rebuild our government from the ground up again to undo the damage that shitstain has done. IMO, the first step towards that end is to clean house. Quickly & mercilessly.


******
This is of absolutely VITAL importance.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
30. The fatal flaw in the constitution
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:11 PM
Jul 2020
Also, take steps to redress the imbalance in power that sees a minority party more and more out of step with the vast majority of voters somehow ending up in control of the presidency, the Congress, and the judiciary.


Unfortunately this is due to the fatal flaw in the constitution that empowered the minority. Between the EC and the unalterable requirement for every state to have 2 senators, we are doomed to be ruled to a great degree by the minority. By 2040 roughly 70% of the population will live in just 15 states. That will give them outsized influence on the EC, the senate, and as such the judiciary.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
35. Get rid of the flaw
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:25 PM
Jul 2020

If Dems control the three branches of the federal government they will have the votes to fix it. Permanently.

I suggest they write thier solution in plain unambiguous language. Without loopholes.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
39. The senate is unalterable
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:34 PM
Jul 2020

It's the only feature of the constitution that is exempt from the amendment process. Short of a constitutional convention, there is nothing to be done. The only other option is to bust up large states into numerous small ones, the size of North Dakota.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
49. Maybe we will have to do that
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:45 PM
Jul 2020

Because we cannot allow the minority to have such control over our lives.

It will leave the door open to tyranny. We must close lock and weld that door shut. Even if there are sweeping changes. Maybe we need those changes.

Unless you wanna go through this shit all over again.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
51. Gonna be hard to do
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:51 PM
Jul 2020

You'd end up with states like "Manhattan", or LA. The population of this country is highly concentrated. 70% of the population currently lives within something like 70 miles of the coast lines.

thucythucy

(8,045 posts)
67. Where in the Constitution does it say
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:44 PM
Jul 2020

"the senate is unalterable."

Article I, on my reading, only says that each state shall choose two senators. I don't see where it says this cannot be altered by amendment.

Senators were originally elected by state legislatures, not direct state wide elections. That was changed by a constitutional amendment.

Of course, none of the states with outsized power will ever vote to ratify such an amendment (changing how many senators a state gets) but that isn't the same as saying we'd need a whole new constitutional convention.

Admitting Washington DC and Puerto Rico as states would help, adding four more senators to the mix. That would be a start in the right direction.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
87. Article 5
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 01:47 PM
Jul 2020

Article V (Article 5 - Mode of Amendment)
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

volstork

(5,399 posts)
31. I particularly like this suggestion:
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:13 PM
Jul 2020

"There also needs to be some sort of commission set up to examine all the Trump appointments to offices in the executive branch, with the goal of weeding out appointees who are clearly incompetent and even opposed to the goals of their department."

This will be a critical part of the housecleaning that will have long-term repercussions.

KPN

(15,642 posts)
43. They can all be dumped on January 20 -- day 1 --
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:39 PM
Jul 2020

and should be. There is absolutely zero rationale for keeping any of the Trump loyalists and few of the entirety of current tRump appointees. Career federal employees can handle agency operations quite well without them. The agencies will return to carrying out their fundamental mission immediately and we’ll all be better off as a result.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
54. I would expel all Russian diplomats from the United States at 12:01pm on Jan 21
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 04:14 PM
Jul 2020

And recall our ambassador and all diplomatic staff. Let the Swiss or some other country represent our interests there like they do with Iran now.

fierywoman

(7,681 posts)
65. I add gerrymandering needs fixing on a national level.And voter suppression. And
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:32 PM
Jul 2020

hackable voting machines.

cstanleytech

(26,280 posts)
77. Would have to fix the SCOTUS imbalance first and in such a way that the Republicans will not be able
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 03:47 AM
Jul 2020

to counter any time soon.

Nitram

(22,790 posts)
7. Yup, that's about right.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 01:58 PM
Jul 2020

I read that people are "worried" Trump might not leave office if he loses the election. WTF! Haul the bum out and toss him onto the sidewalk in front of the White House.

Lonestarblue

(9,969 posts)
11. Nancy Pelosi will be the first to call the Capital Police to escort Donnie out he refuses to leave.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 02:15 PM
Jul 2020

Somehow I think it will not come to that. If Biden’s vote is large enough, the courts will not intervene to save Trump. In January, he will resign so Pence can pardon him and be the one to hand ver the presidency. I don’t think Trump can stand what he will see as the humiliation of losing and having to publicly to demonstrate that he he lost and has to move on.

ancianita

(36,019 posts)
9. YES.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 02:07 PM
Jul 2020

No more time wasting on bi-partisan work. They either vote with you or they don't.

Fuck all their whining about procedural "rules" or costs. Due to the ruin and death they've brought, ain't nobody got time for all that.

Fuck 'em all.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
12. Here's the Democrat's answer to republicon whining, stalling and blubbering
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 02:16 PM
Jul 2020

"YOU FUCKERS HAD YOUR CHANCE, NOW GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

They're probably too polite to use that though.

ancianita

(36,019 posts)
16. Hah! I'm inclined to agree.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 02:25 PM
Jul 2020

They'll go first with the whine tactics, then name calling, then tan suit trifling outrage, then tantrums, then guns and "patriot protests." By then the new DOJ should be in full swing.

But, you know, this party can't really stoop to their level. Much as there's a lot of pleasure in that. We need to enjoy all our schadenfreude at the point of winning and the inauguration.

From then on, when we stay focused and on our business, rebuild, get shit done, the public won't fall for any of that 'both sides do it' replay, or their BS hype.

ancianita

(36,019 posts)
26. I don't want us to be like them. I want: Fairer voting. Single issue bills. Straight up or down.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 02:56 PM
Jul 2020

No bullshit haggling or stealth insertions.

Let them stew at watching how well Democrats execute governance.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
36. "No bullshit haggling." - That's what I'm saying. Dems have to just get it done.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:28 PM
Jul 2020

The assholes who got us into this can go fuck themselves. We don't need to hear from them.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
50. I want them empowered
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:48 PM
Jul 2020

To do whatever it takes to get rid of the republicans and thier antiamerican policies.

Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
10. You are 100% right...just do it... no BS fake maybe from the other side like they (K&R)
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 02:13 PM
Jul 2020

did in 09 when they delayed the ACA and we ended up without the bill we wanted.

Mr.Bill

(24,277 posts)
19. Build a justice department
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 02:33 PM
Jul 2020

that will aggressively prosecute every single one of these bastards. I doubt it will be hard to find crimes committed by every one of them. And if Trump resigns and Pence pardons everybody, assist AGs in states to go after them there. At the very least, get all that are lawyers disbarred. Make their lives a legal living hell. Let this be the motto of the DOJ:

Trump did what he did because Richard Nixon didn't die in prison. Carve it in stone on the front of the building.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
20. I beg to differ on one small point
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 02:34 PM
Jul 2020

It's small, but not inconsequential:

The Repukes' response has been way more than Nothing.

* They put the interests of Wall Street ahead of Main Street by relaxing the pandemic response so that business could resume. And now, innocent, vulnerable people across our nation are paying a very heavy price. And will continue to do so as long as the lobbyists call the shots; and
* They belittled, demeaned and contradicted Dr. Faucci et al. to the point that the knuckle-dragging AM-radio audience-members are threatening him and his family. The person in Florida previously charged with tracking cases, deaths, etc. was removed from her position for telling the truth. And now, we're peaking in cases and running out of hospital ICU beds. Who knows how many others are being persecuted because the Cowardly-Lyin' Traitor is worried about his re-election?

I could go on and on, but I think you get the point.

Any elected Repukes that survive November 3 better wake up and smell what they've been shoveling.


Good post! Thank you!

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
37. And every time
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:29 PM
Jul 2020

She reaches out to republicans assuming they are capable of caring she sells short the American people.

Do not negotiate with right wing sociopaths seeking to destroy dems.and our country.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
32. If this happens and Repuke's are routed like '06 and '08. Kick them right in the balls when they're
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:17 PM
Jul 2020

down. Because they would do much worse if the situation was reversed. Make that "party" shrink until it's small enough to drown in Grover Norquist's bidet.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
41. Yes!
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:34 PM
Jul 2020

Many, including myself, have been saying for some time, Dems cannot work with the Republicans on anything beneficial to the country and its people. You can't. They have no interest and deem such things detrimental to their own success. I say, fuck them. Ram it down their damn throats. As we've seen with the ACA, once Americans enjoy the benefit of good policy, one can't take it away from them without committing political suicide.

MichMan

(11,907 posts)
42. UBI of $5000 per month for anyone over 18.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:39 PM
Jul 2020

Each household of two or more would automatically receive $120k per year for living.

cstanleytech

(26,280 posts)
44. While I am not sure if that is a good idea for them to do but if and I mean IF they do then
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:40 PM
Jul 2020

they had better go whole hog and do some other major changes.
For example SCOTUS should be changed to 27 seats packed with young progressive judges no older than 40 max.
Second would be a massive infrastructure bill as well as major education spending and national healthcare program.
Not to mention redoing the entire tax system so the wealthy and corporations start actually paying their fair share rather than the majority of the burden being placed on the poor and middle class most of whom are probably tired of surviving on crumbs.

BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
46. Agreed 10000000000%
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:43 PM
Jul 2020

Who gives one FUCK what the repigs think or want? I am NOT interested. Fuck them. Just roll right over everything they ask for. Anything they want, the answer should either be silence or NO.

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
48. All that AND....
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 03:45 PM
Jul 2020

Hold accountable those who need to be held accountable and show America and the world that tRUMP and the #trumpcrimefamily is NOT above the law.

c-rational

(2,590 posts)
52. Yes to all including all the suggestions above. Go Big and Go Bold. Spend on healthcare,
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 04:01 PM
Jul 2020

infrastructure, and education. Tax the wealthy and bring back a 70% tax rate for the rich. no limit on SS tax payments, enlarge SCOTUS, reform bills galore and go after all the dotard henchmen like our lives depended on it,as it does.

HootieMcBoob

(3,823 posts)
53. Absolutely right! Plus, I was thinking the same thing that ....
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 04:05 PM
Jul 2020

I was thinking the same thing that Michael Moore said last night on Joy Reid's show.

He said that Biden should start behaving, right now, as if he's the President.

Saying what he would do ... etc.

The country needs to know that there's somebody in control or at least the potential for control by someone who is sane and actually has plans on what needs to be done right now. Trump and the Republicans as you've said have managed in every way to make a bad situation inconceivably worse.

Trump started acting like President the day after election day. Biden should start behaving like the President right now.

Daily chats and reassurances about what can and will be done to help.

 

Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
55. Have a list of indictments ready to go.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 04:15 PM
Jul 2020

All the co-conspirators need to be rounded up for crimes against the American people, the Constitution and War Crimes ... corruption cases could come later.

ChazInAz

(2,564 posts)
68. One detail.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:58 PM
Jul 2020

A lot of passports should be pulled immediately.
We want Trump and his cronies to stay right here, where we can get to them.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
56. On the day after the election is determined,
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 04:21 PM
Jul 2020

All the cabinet and significant positions should be announced, the jobs determined so that on that January day, they can go to work. It should be an abbreviated swearing in ceremony, and celebration. This is the time to start correcting the damage that has been done.

Biden has a huge pool of experienced, competent and patriotic people to put to work.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
59. #1) Immediately disclose everything the tRUMP Administration has been doing.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 05:44 PM
Jul 2020

Publish all unclassified (Not Dumbass' standard) records over the internet, so that their followers can see for themselves and can never deny it. Make sure every American knows who all sold out this country. Now, if Members of Congress and Senate are incriminated in those records, then so be it... In other words, immediately show all Americans how many Republicans really are what they claim to be. Give none of them any cover whatsoever!

jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
62. Expand the federal bench
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 07:58 PM
Jul 2020

There's a huge justification for adding a shitload of new federal judges beyond "we need to dilute Trump's stranglehold over the judiciary" (which is also necessary)...right now, there is more business for the federal courts than they have time to do. We could triple the size of the bench and it still wouldn't be enough, but doing that would definitely dilute the Trump judges' power to ruin people's lives.

We should also look hard at the capital gains tax. The supposed justification is that it encourages people to invest in new and better ideas and methods...in reality, holding stock long enough for it to fall into CGT territory is very, very rare. The CGT has become a preferential tax rate for people who can afford to wait two years to cash their paychecks. I would be very willing to trade a 5 percent CGT on actual investment for taxing the gain of stock bought with incentive stock options at the same rate as ordinary income.

Next, I want a law that says any politician who sponsors a tax cut bill while the deficit is over $200 billion should be kicked out of Congress and pilloried for three days in front of the building as a warning to the rest of them.

Fix the anti-nepotism laws so the next president can't name his own children as his official advisors.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
69. My advice
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:59 PM
Jul 2020

None of this reaching across the aisle bullshit. You go in and you get every Fuckmuppet Republican in the joint. Bipartisanship makes you only look like weak fucking cowards. You smash them so fucking hard Hannity and his ilk scream for peace but you tell them to fuck off.

tinymontgomery

(2,584 posts)
76. Crazy Idea and Not Sure it Would Work
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 11:55 PM
Jul 2020

Issue a Executive Order stating all of Trumps Executive Orders are canceled or some such
wording..

nwliberalkiwi

(367 posts)
79. All Votes In The United States
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:55 AM
Jul 2020

All votes in the United States should be fifty percent plus one. No more 60% or higher votes to pass. The minority (Republicans) should not disenfranchise the majority!!!

NNadir

(33,512 posts)
80. After arresting and trying the guilty anti-democratic revolutionaries, we need opposition.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 09:55 AM
Jul 2020

A sane opposition, that is.

paul91046

(11 posts)
83. first....
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 11:39 AM
Jul 2020

get rid of the fucking filibuster rule and deal with whatever consequences that may, hypothetically, arise IF the scum, traitor republicans ever took power again. frankly, i don't see it for a generation...as long as people witnessing their destruction of the country are alive. next...make Puerto Rico and Washington D.C. states....maybe Guam, Virgin Islands. And then make ALL national
parks free like they were before reagan started fucking over the poor. Then get on with the business of trying to repair the damage these traitors have done....health care; covid-19; climate change...

DFW

(54,338 posts)
84. I regret to say I agree completely
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 11:59 AM
Jul 2020

This has nothing to with payback, and everything to do with damage control. The Republicans have either stood consciously by or actively participated in the willful destruction of our nation's economy, our world standing, our preparedness to handle emergencies, our national infrastructure and our whole system of justice.

Prosecute and incarcerate the guilty, such as Barr, McConnell, Wolf, Trump, Gaetz and a LOT of etc. No mercy in sentencing, à la Don Siegelman.

Marginalize the enablers who kept themselves just this side of committing felonies, and ignore those who are still in a position to vote for measures that damage us as a nation.

"Against all enemies, foreign and domestic." The term "domestic" was included in the oath for a reason, stemming from the Civil War, and addressing those who would endanger the country for their own narrow interests. I dare say, we've had more than a little of that since January 20, 2017.

captain queeg

(10,157 posts)
85. Pull out all the stops and kick their asses down into the ground
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 12:25 PM
Jul 2020

No niceness or fairness. Let them taste their own medicine. The people are ready for it, don’t hold back.

oldsoftie

(12,529 posts)
88. Killing the filibuster is what got us the McConnell Senate. Nothing is forever.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 01:53 PM
Jul 2020

Making rule changes that benefit you NOW will likely come back to bite you in the ass later when you're no longer in the majority.
Maybe as early as 2022.
But hey, both sides always act like when they get in power they'll NEVER lose it again.

Yavin4

(35,433 posts)
89. "Killing the filibuster is what got us the McConnell Senate" What?!
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 02:11 PM
Jul 2020

In a normal functioning US Senate, the filibuster makes sense if both parties are actively trying to govern the nation and leading it through a crisis, but we don't have a functioning Senate. We don't have a Republican interested in governing. We have a Republican party who just wants to cut taxes, de-regulate, and appoint right wing judges. That's it. That's all.

Leaving the filibuster in place gives the Republican a huge weapon to slow down or stop any response to the crisis or the economic situation. Our government is too dysfunctional to proceed as normal.

oldsoftie

(12,529 posts)
92. Harry Reid was first to change the rules.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 07:17 PM
Jul 2020

And when the GOP took control, they took full advantage of the change & made it worse. When The Dems take the Senate, if they make MORE changes, they'll be taken full advantage of by the NEXT GOP Senate. Who knows when it will be, but it will happen.

Yavin4

(35,433 posts)
93. We. Are. In. A. Crisis.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 07:21 PM
Jul 2020

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If the Dems do not get the virus under control and the economy stabilized in 9 mos. or so after taking power, this country will collapse. We cannot go on much longer in this current situation. We cannot sustain this economy with double digit UE. People will start defaulting and those defaults will have cascading effects.

It won't matter who or what takes the next congress if the Dems fail.

oldsoftie

(12,529 posts)
95. I'm afraid the virus is here to stay in a bad way a lot longer than 9 months
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 07:34 PM
Jul 2020

Maybe not, but the quickest a vaccine has ever been developed is 4 yrs i think.

I'm hoping most people will come to their senses and start masking up like the countries that have the fewest cases

maxrandb

(15,319 posts)
90. I also want Joe to send some federal law enforcement to camp out all over Dumbfuckistan Murika
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 02:48 PM
Jul 2020

Just for a little while... you know... enforcing federal environmental laws, firearms laws, etc

I want the old fucking racist in their Medicare provided my scooters to find out what tear gas tastes like.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
96. Same here
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 07:58 PM
Jul 2020

I've fucking had it with these old racist fucksticks and they need to feel some of the same oppression they've been visiting on others for centuries now.

meadowlander

(4,394 posts)
94. Also, no "let's move on" - prosecute to the full extent of the law
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 07:27 PM
Jul 2020

and don't stop until the US government has disgorged, tried and imprisoned every Trump croney or enabler who sanctioned or participated in illegal activities.

There's no moving on until justice is served or we're going to end up right back here again in four or eight years.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
97. And build a permanent marble gallows between the White House and US Capitol
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 07:59 PM
Jul 2020

And make it clear that it will be used for any government employee all the way up to the top who is found guilty of committing treason.

CrispyQ

(36,454 posts)
98. If we GOTV & give the dems the WH & both chambers of Congress, they'd better go bold,
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 11:28 AM
Jul 2020

and I mean BOLD! I hope the old guard dems have that in them, but I already see reaching across the aisle by giving a spot at our national convention to an anti-choice, white, republican male. If Biden thinks repubs in congress are going to work with him because he has history with some of them, then he's naïve.

I see a cycle in this country. The repubs are allowed to drive us into a ditch, & then the dems are given four, maybe eight years to get the car back on the road, and we better fix it good and we better fix it fast, or we put the repubs back in the drivers seat, where they drive us into a ditch again. If we don't go BOLD, we will repeat this cycle, only next time we might not be able to pull the car out of the ditch, assuming we can pull it out this time. I hate that I'm a pessimist, but I don't see how we don't have an unprecedented economic disaster coming our way.

Yavin4

(35,433 posts)
100. Actually, the Dems have two years to pull us out of the ditch.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 12:47 PM
Jul 2020

Republicans stall and delay progress, and then during the next mid-terms, they re-take control because the Dems haven't done anything.

Ligyron

(7,624 posts)
102. "If a foreign army had invaded the U.S. and killed 150,000 Americans, we would be writing ..."
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 03:28 PM
Jul 2020

There it is, right there.

...Truth.

quakerboy

(13,919 posts)
104. That advice has already been pre-denied
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 04:20 AM
Jul 2020

I do believe if you check the record, you will find that its already been announced that "they" will need to be included and onboard at all steps.

Also.. assuming that we are allowed to vote, and that we make a clean sweep in the senate and presidency... Expect justice Roberts to start ruling hard right with a lot of rapidfire 5-4 decisions designed to hamstring the power and progress of the legislative and executive branches as much as possible

GETPLANING

(846 posts)
105. They must not make the same mistake that so many Democratic majorities have made before,
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 01:59 PM
Jul 2020

Which is to think they can work with an opposition party whose only goal is to destroy them.

paul91046

(11 posts)
106. and....
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 12:18 AM
Jul 2020

filibuster first...may not even need to. i can see 60+ dem senate seats if election is legit. then... make puerto rico and DC states (can they do that???); then make all national parks free (quit fucking over the poor); then pass a law saying that if you vote for war, you (and/or your children) go first. then get to work on health care; climate change; police misconduct (misconduct---such a nice word.)

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