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malaise

(268,997 posts)
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:15 PM Jul 2020

Rachel right now -Medical Experts Tell Government: 'Shut It Down Now, And Start Over'

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/07/24/medical-experts-tell-government-shut-it-down-now-and-start-over/#74286f01695c
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TOPLINE As the coronavirus pandemic continues to spread throughout the U.S. despite mask mandates and social distancing measures, more than 150 medical experts, scientists and other health professionals signed a letter organized by a prominent consumer group and delivered to government leaders Thursday calling for new shutdowns to bring case counts down and “hit the reset button” to implement a more effective response.

The letter, which was organized by consumer group U.S. PIRG and sent to the Trump administration, congressional leaders and state governors, urges leaders to “shut it down now and start over,” saying the government must “take bold action to save lives.”

The signatories call for closing all non-essential businesses and opening restaurants for takeout only, with Americans leaving their houses “only to get food and medicine or to exercise and get fresh air.”

The letter also says interstate travel should be shut down to keep the virus from spreading from state to state.

The lockdowns should continue “until case numbers recede to a level at which we have the capacity to effectively test and trace,” at which point “we can try a little more opening, one small step at a time.”
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Rachel right now -Medical Experts Tell Government: 'Shut It Down Now, And Start Over' (Original Post) malaise Jul 2020 OP
I'm staying home as much as possible. JoeOtterbein Jul 2020 #1
Laurie Garrett is not mincing words here malaise Jul 2020 #2
Hopefully it will be. JoeOtterbein Jul 2020 #4
I heard her on the show and the whole time BigmanPigman Jul 2020 #8
SPOILER ALERT : This WILL NOT happen until shit-face is no longer President. bullwinkle428 Jul 2020 #3
"'Shut It Down Now, And Start Over'" mitch96 Jul 2020 #5
we will never have a good smart shutdown. nt BootinUp Jul 2020 #6
This. It's too late and too many crackpot governors will rebel SoonerPride Jul 2020 #7
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2020 #14
should have never reopened , except the thing in the white house was losin $ AllaN01Bear Jul 2020 #9
A gruesome thought dlk Jul 2020 #10
Gruesome, yes. But, you're right on the money. Mr. Evil Jul 2020 #11
From now until the election dlk Jul 2020 #13
It would be extremely hard, to say the least, to do this dsc Jul 2020 #12
Here's the video: Rhiannon12866 Jul 2020 #15
Thanks for this Rhiannon12866 malaise Jul 2020 #16
That was one of two Rachel Maddow videos I posted tonight, she's really on this! Rhiannon12866 Jul 2020 #17

malaise

(268,997 posts)
2. Laurie Garrett is not mincing words here
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:34 PM
Jul 2020

This will be the final nail in the Con's coffin - the schools

BigmanPigman

(51,591 posts)
8. I heard her on the show and the whole time
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 11:42 PM
Jul 2020

I was shaking my head up and down, nodding...and yelling, "YES!".

She made 100% sense, therefore team tRump will do the opposite.

mitch96

(13,904 posts)
5. "'Shut It Down Now, And Start Over'"
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:48 PM
Jul 2020

I think this is what we have to do with the whole government in 180 days after tRump leaves office. I know politics is politics and can we just take everybody who was working for Obama when he left and have them come back? This would get the Govt kick start with people who know what they are doing.
A thought...
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SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
7. This. It's too late and too many crackpot governors will rebel
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 11:29 PM
Jul 2020

We had a chance back in March to have a true nationwide shutdown and we could be like Europe now.

But we never truly shut the economy down and opened what little was closed back up too soon.

Now we are screwed. It’s too late. It’s everywhere and will spread uncontrolled until (if) we get a vaccine.

The death and suffering will be immeasurable

AllaN01Bear

(18,205 posts)
9. should have never reopened , except the thing in the white house was losin $
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 11:49 PM
Jul 2020

and so were his butt budies and the places that are still in l.d should remain so. any politician and or law inforcement higher ups who refuse to enforce should be arrested themselves

dlk

(11,566 posts)
10. A gruesome thought
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 12:01 AM
Jul 2020

If America’s schoolchildren are sick and dying from schools reopening too soon, will their parents be too distraught and distracted to vote? Trump would do absolutely anything to stay in office.

Mr. Evil

(2,844 posts)
11. Gruesome, yes. But, you're right on the money.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 12:43 AM
Jul 2020

Children and teachers will get sick and some will die. It will become chaotic. You're also 100% correct that President Nazivomit will do anything to stay in office.

The next 3 months are going to be even more ugly than it already is.

dlk

(11,566 posts)
13. From now until the election
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 12:55 AM
Jul 2020

Absolutely everything Trump says and does between now and then has one single purpose only and that is his re-election. Nothing else matters to him.

dsc

(52,161 posts)
12. It would be extremely hard, to say the least, to do this
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 12:48 AM
Jul 2020

Even if you could get the hard hit states now to change their ways (and good luck with that) I don't see the north east going along with this either since they did the right thing, have very low case numbers, and can probably start getting back to normal. I can very much see citizens of those states saying f you to places such as Florida, Arizona, and Texas that behaved irresponsibly and are now reaping the whirlwind of having done so.

Rhiannon12866

(205,322 posts)
15. Here's the video:
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 05:24 AM
Jul 2020
Botched U.S. Reopening May Require A Shutdown Do-Over - Rachel Maddow - MSNBC



Rachel Maddow outlines the reasoning of more than 150 health experts who have signed onto a letter calling for the U.S. to try another shutdown, to do it correctly this time to control the coronavirus as a unified country instead of disparate states prolonging the outbreak. Aired on 7/24/2020.


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