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queentonic

(243 posts)
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:40 PM Jul 2020

What would happen if ...

Question: What would happen if a red state refuses to certify election results and it goes past the December 14th Electoral College deadline? Would it automatically go to the House of Representatives where the Repugs have a 26-23 vote superiority over the D's? Just curious because I don't think the constitution addresses this possibility.

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What would happen if ... (Original Post) queentonic Jul 2020 OP
It does address it and it has happened already (1876) unblock Jul 2020 #1
Trying to understand Proud liberal 80 Jul 2020 #4
Sorry, I phrased that poorly unblock Jul 2020 #5
Copy, thanks! Proud liberal 80 Jul 2020 #7
You are confusing Senate with House. Sneederbunk Jul 2020 #2
No he isn't Proud liberal 80 Jul 2020 #3
For this specific purpose only, each state gets one vote. unblock Jul 2020 #6
Yeah Proud liberal 80 Jul 2020 #8
12th Amendment sarisataka Jul 2020 #9

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(52,208 posts)
1. It does address it and it has happened already (1876)
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:49 PM
Jul 2020

It only goes to the house if no candidate has a majority of certified electoral votes. If Biden has enough of a margin, a red state or two can mess around and it won't matter.

If enough do, then yes, the house decides, but it's the new Congress, not the current one.

Hopefully we have a majority of state delegations by then.


1876 was resolved with the infamous compromise that gave Hayes the Oval Office in exchange for ending reconstruction in the south.

Some of the early elections also went to the house.

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
4. Trying to understand
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:17 PM
Jul 2020

If it is a majority if certified electoral votes, then why would it matter if all red states decided to not certify their results? Hell, wouldn’t that actually give Biden a bigger majority?

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(52,208 posts)
5. Sorry, I phrased that poorly
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:29 PM
Jul 2020

I means 270 certified electoral votes. A majority of all available electoral votes (538) have to be certified for one candidate. Point is, if Biden win 400 electoral votes, but a few red states he won refuse to certify, then maybe he has 350 certified electoral votes but that's still more than enough.

Enough red states would have to refuse to certify to Biden's count below 270 certified electoral votes.

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
3. No he isn't
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:12 PM
Jul 2020

The Dems have a representative majority, but not a state majority. And when the house has to choose a president it’s based off of states not individual representatives

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(52,208 posts)
6. For this specific purpose only, each state gets one vote.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:31 PM
Jul 2020

The entire California delegation gets one vote, same as Wyoming's

sarisataka

(18,633 posts)
9. 12th Amendment
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:56 PM
Jul 2020

To become President the winner needs a majority of appointed electors. If a state does not appoint electors, the 270 number will be reduced. It will only go to Congress if no candidate has a majority.

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