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TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:50 PM Jul 2020

So, there I was putting my new Veterans for Biden sign in the yard.....

when a white haired lady stopped to comment. I braced for what was coming. After all, I'm in southwest Arkansas and am seriously outnumbered.

To my surprise, she proceeded to tell me what a danger Trump is to the country. Turns out, her daughter lives in Portland and has been attending the protests.

Suddenly, I feel less outnumbered.

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So, there I was putting my new Veterans for Biden sign in the yard..... (Original Post) TomSlick Jul 2020 OP
Very cool! Thanks for sharing. fierywoman Jul 2020 #1
Yay! soothsayer Jul 2020 #2
It's happening...... MyOwnPeace Jul 2020 #3
There are little glimmers of hope now and then. TomSlick Jul 2020 #6
What a cool story, my dear TomSlick! CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2020 #4
Wasn't it. TomSlick Jul 2020 #11
One is the loneliness number. sheshe2 Jul 2020 #5
Every good moment REALLY helps in these troubled times. Thanks for posting. MFGsunny Jul 2020 #7
I have too many years of service invested in the Country to quit on it now. TomSlick Jul 2020 #14
Thank you, TomSlick! calimary Jul 2020 #20
I have known heroes. I am no hero. TomSlick Jul 2020 #23
To you, sir GeoWilliam750 Jul 2020 #34
Often the heroes are the most humble. calimary Jul 2020 #45
Amen! Well said. Much obliged! n/t MFGsunny Jul 2020 #25
Ditto pfitz59 Jul 2020 #39
Tell 'em Navy. TomSlick Jul 2020 #49
I'm not a vet and it sure inflamed me. That was disgusting. I hope he sues the crap out of them. Evolve Dammit Jul 2020 #55
That's a problem with secret police. Who should he sue? TomSlick Jul 2020 #56
I thought the acting DHS head acknowledged some deployment? Evolve Dammit Jul 2020 #63
But a deployment of what? TomSlick Jul 2020 #65
That is why we need answers, and either the Congress presses or we no nothing. Evolve Dammit Jul 2020 #66
I agree with half of what you said. TomSlick Jul 2020 #67
Absofrigginlutely. 10-4 Evolve Dammit Jul 2020 #68
are people bdamomma Jul 2020 #8
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #9
K&R smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #10
Cool. For some reason I thought you were in SE Arkansas. GulfCoast66 Jul 2020 #12
75 miles away. TomSlick Jul 2020 #15
Got it. I love going there every year to deer hunt and visit family. GulfCoast66 Jul 2020 #24
Back in the day, there were large tracts of native pine in my area. TomSlick Jul 2020 #28
Wonderful encounter.. I bet that made Cha Jul 2020 #13
The high point of the day. TomSlick Jul 2020 #16
I was amazed to see the recent polling calguy Jul 2020 #17
I'm skeptical Trump could lose Arkansas on purpose. TomSlick Jul 2020 #19
We've ALWAYS been in the majority, never the minority. ffr Jul 2020 #18
Thank you so much for sharing this. We need every positive minute and encounter and niyad Jul 2020 #21
👍 Joinfortmill Jul 2020 #22
Who would have thaught safeinOhio Jul 2020 #26
Arkansas has changed since Bill's day. TomSlick Jul 2020 #29
Trump's "Law & Order" campaign is blowing up in his face. BlueIdaho Jul 2020 #27
I do so hope you are correct. TomSlick Jul 2020 #30
It's a small world after all! MontanaMama Jul 2020 #31
You are more than welcome. TomSlick Jul 2020 #32
That's great... Upthevibe Jul 2020 #33
We did this with Beto signs in 2018 LeftInTX Jul 2020 #35
Did a lot of jobs in your fair part of the land back in the day.... KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2020 #36
I think I know the place! TomSlick Jul 2020 #37
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2020 #38
It only takes two to make a team. Harker Jul 2020 #40
We live in a red rural area in NY Woodwizard Jul 2020 #41
I feel your pain.. Maxheader Jul 2020 #42
I'll be taking my "Veterans for Biden" bumper sticker to the supermarket MineralMan Jul 2020 #43
Please give us a report. TomSlick Jul 2020 #51
Nothing happened. The parking lot was almost empty, MineralMan Jul 2020 #54
My trip to the store was remarkable. TomSlick Jul 2020 #60
IMO, vets are respected by 99% of the public. nt oasis Jul 2020 #44
I hope you are correct. TomSlick Jul 2020 #52
I think there is a grass roots anti-Trump movement growing across the nation. patphil Jul 2020 #46
Bravo!! My inlaws are about 1.5 hours north of you and are big liberals as well. onetexan Jul 2020 #47
I was born and raised in El Dorado. LiberalArkie Jul 2020 #48
What a warm and comfortable moment that must have been for you! BobTheSubgenius Jul 2020 #50
My Spouse and I... louzke9 Jul 2020 #53
Former Hot Springs Village resident here. Heartstrings Jul 2020 #57
Great! I live in red city in blue state marlakay Jul 2020 #58
Trump is the shiny object in front of democrats Liberal-Of course Jul 2020 #59
.. Demovictory9 Jul 2020 #61
Live in Conservative west Michigan Johnny2X2X Jul 2020 #62
Great story! TomSlick Jul 2020 #64
where do you get Veterans for Biden signs? James48 Jul 2020 #69
I bought in on Etsy. TomSlick Jul 2020 #71
I think there may be three or for in Oklahoma 1plus1equals1 Jul 2020 #70

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
3. It's happening......
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:54 PM
Jul 2020

we need to believe it - we need to help make it grow - we need to have it!

GET OUT THE VOTE!!!!!

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
6. There are little glimmers of hope now and then.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:58 PM
Jul 2020

I will take what comfort I can from whatever source.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,615 posts)
4. What a cool story, my dear TomSlick!
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:55 PM
Jul 2020

Maybe she'd felt outnumbered too, until she saw your sign. How lovely that she stopped to talk to you.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
11. Wasn't it.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:00 PM
Jul 2020

I've seen her out walking before. We exchange "good evenings" but she has never before stopped to talk.

The sign paid for itself its first day in the yard.

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
7. Every good moment REALLY helps in these troubled times. Thanks for posting.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:58 PM
Jul 2020

Not to mention :: THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, then and now.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
14. I have too many years of service invested in the Country to quit on it now.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:02 PM
Jul 2020

My commissioning oath did not have a termination date.

US ARMY - Uncle Sam Ain't Rid of Me Yet.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
23. I have known heroes. I am no hero.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:28 PM
Jul 2020

My military service called for no acts of courage. I was judge advocate who never saw a combat zone.

I am just an old retired soldier who has attempted to do his duty.

pfitz59

(10,381 posts)
39. Ditto
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:04 AM
Jul 2020

my oath is still in effect. That Navy O in Portland only wanted to remind the Feds of the oath THEY took, and he was beaten and gassed

Evolve Dammit

(16,733 posts)
55. I'm not a vet and it sure inflamed me. That was disgusting. I hope he sues the crap out of them.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 11:57 AM
Jul 2020

I hope there are some good civil rights lawyers interested. As well as anyone hurt in the DC bible photo op.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
56. That's a problem with secret police. Who should he sue?
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 12:05 PM
Jul 2020

We do not know the identity of the "officer," the agency to which the "officer" belongs, or even if he really is an "officer."

We have paramilitary forces on the streets for whom we cannot identify the "officer," the agency (if any) or the mission. This way lies fascism.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
65. But a deployment of what?
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:10 PM
Jul 2020

We have people in camouflage with no insignia. We have no idea who they are. There are reports the federal marshal service is "deputizing" people who are not federal law enforcement. We cannot know if they are from some other federal agency, Erik Prince's thugs, or right-wing militias.

What is obvious is that these "officials" are either not trained law enforcement or law enforcement happy to ignore their training. Either way, it's scary as hell.

When one of these "officials" beats-down a peaceful protester, the victim has know way to know against whom to file their lawsuit. DHS will be free to ignore all knowledge concerning the assailant.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
67. I agree with half of what you said.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 08:02 PM
Jul 2020

Yes, the Congress needs to get to the answers.

However, if these paramilitary thugs come to a city near you, join the protests. This is no time to do nothing.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
12. Cool. For some reason I thought you were in SE Arkansas.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:00 PM
Jul 2020

You close to Magnolia? Most of my family is there are trumpers but the ones that live across the boarder in Springhill LA are mainly good democrats.

You’ve probably told me before and I apologize if I have forgotten.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
24. Got it. I love going there every year to deer hunt and visit family.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:29 PM
Jul 2020

I love the piney woods.

Did you know that before FDR all that country was open land with small farms and share croppers?

I was born in the mid 60’s but when my dad was a boy in the 30’s that was wide open, unfenced farmland. They could take their horses for miles and never run into large woods. He and my grandfather told me about busting 20 quail coveys a day!

My maternal grandfather born in 04 remembered seeing Ivory Billed Woodpeckers and Red Wolves in the bottoms. I remember him saying it was a sin we killed them all. He dropped out of school after 3rd grade but was self educated and don’t doubt he was a genius. All 5 of his kids are worth over a million dollars. Hell, they did not get power till mother was in high school in the 50s. Because of the REA.

He cleared a farm where Lake Earling now sits. I’m guessing you know where that is located.

I can’t bring myself to hate all of those rural trump supporters like so many on DU do. I understand why they do and am not offended. But I guarantee you if a liberal friend of mind broke down on the interstate south of Hot Springs I could call my trump voting uncle and he would drive up there and help.

People are complicated. My family knows I’m a Social Democrat and we have folks come to deer camp just to spar with me. It’s like they welcome hearing a view they are never exposed to.

If it were within 30 miles of the gulf I could retire there.

Haven’t seen too many of your posts lately. Miss them. Of course I’ve cut back as well. We know what we have to do and I just don’t see the need to pile in on the outrage posts.

Have a great weekend.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
28. Back in the day, there were large tracts of native pine in my area.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 11:18 PM
Jul 2020

I have seen pictures of pine boles from the Gurdon and Fordyce area, one section of which would fill a log truck.

Folks here are what they are. As Herself says, no one moved to south Arkansas to have their consciousness raised. We are better than we once were but have a long way yet to go.

calguy

(5,309 posts)
17. I was amazed to see the recent polling
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:06 PM
Jul 2020

showing Biden within striking distance of trump. In a pure red state like AR, if the polls are tightening here, you know he's losing it big time in swing states, as the polls confirm.
But still, I can't be complacent. I won't feel confident until November Fourth.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
19. I'm skeptical Trump could lose Arkansas on purpose.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:11 PM
Jul 2020

But my parents named me Thomas in a moment of prophetic insight.

Hope springs eternal.




ffr

(22,670 posts)
18. We've ALWAYS been in the majority, never the minority.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:08 PM
Jul 2020

Hold your head up and your chest out proudly. Democrats are true red-blooded Americans.

niyad

(113,303 posts)
21. Thank you so much for sharing this. We need every positive minute and encounter and
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:22 PM
Jul 2020

glimmer of hope there is.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
29. Arkansas has changed since Bill's day.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 11:20 PM
Jul 2020

There are too many here that will never forgive the Democrats from putting a black man in the White House. There are many here with only the thinnest veneer over their racism.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
27. Trump's "Law & Order" campaign is blowing up in his face.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 11:01 PM
Jul 2020

His embrace of ultra-violence is turning people’s stomachs.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
32. You are more than welcome.
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 11:30 PM
Jul 2020

It was such an amazing feel good event, I had to share with my DU friends.

LeftInTX

(25,323 posts)
35. We did this with Beto signs in 2018
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 12:24 AM
Jul 2020

His signs were a hit and we dubbed ourselves a local "Democratic support group"

I will be doing this again with Biden signs

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,491 posts)
36. Did a lot of jobs in your fair part of the land back in the day....
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 12:27 AM
Jul 2020

around Crossett, Camden and Magnolia.

My memory is poor but I'm thinking of a story of an old country store, maybe outside of Camden, where pols would gather around election time for stump speeches. And, I believe a young fellow named Bill visited there a few times.

Don't recall the name of the store but I think they had big cookouts there, too.

I miss eating at the catfish buffet restaurants along with a fair share of Louisiana cooking in that area as well. I have a lot of fond memories from those jobs and had help from a good bunch of hard working, skilled maintenance folk.

KY

Response to TomSlick (Original post)

Woodwizard

(842 posts)
41. We live in a red rural area in NY
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 07:15 AM
Jul 2020

We have found a nice group that are progressives, it is nice to know you are not alone.

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
42. I feel your pain..
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 07:25 AM
Jul 2020

Kansaas here. I take the political temp here through the internet..Just like

many..seems when the wichita eagle puts republican articles on the 1st page,

the wingers in Topeka are being stupid..again...kansans can do smart things,

Elected a Democrat governor... ...let's hope all the red states use a little common

sense in nov...

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
43. I'll be taking my "Veterans for Biden" bumper sticker to the supermarket
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 09:07 AM
Jul 2020

this morning. It's actually on the tailgate of my 1996 Ford Ranger. Normally, I don't use the pickup for grocery runs, but my wife has the car this morning, so...

We'll see if it generates any commentary.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
54. Nothing happened. The parking lot was almost empty,
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 11:52 AM
Jul 2020

because the supermarket where I shop has put big "MASK REQUIRED" signs on the entry doors. The Trumpeters won't shop there now, at least for a while. It's a mandate by our fine Democratic Governor.

Peace at last.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
60. My trip to the store was remarkable.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 03:59 PM
Jul 2020

For the first time almost everyone was wearing masks.

I saw one family - with children - not wearing masks. There were a few masks below the nose. A fewer with the mask under the chin. Most were complying.

I suppose the Arkansas Governor's mandate is being generally obeyed. It was truly amazing.

patphil

(6,176 posts)
46. I think there is a grass roots anti-Trump movement growing across the nation.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 10:19 AM
Jul 2020

Support for Biden is coming from a lot unlikely places.
Every day Trump does something to chip away at his own base.
Let the golden Trump idol be torn down from it's pedestal!


Go Blue Tsunami!

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
47. Bravo!! My inlaws are about 1.5 hours north of you and are big liberals as well.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 10:44 AM
Jul 2020

They're surrounded by Idiot-supporters (i don't say his wretched name) unfortunately.

louzke9

(296 posts)
53. My Spouse and I...
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 11:44 AM
Jul 2020

live in a small city within fifty miles of Atlanta, GEORGIA. My Spouse works at a Major Liquor Store in the area with a mix of Democratic and Republican customers. Recently more and more of the Trump supporters from 2016 are having second thoughts and are not shy to say so. Some are saying they are going to vote for Biden. And recently Biden is pulling ahead here in the polls.

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
57. Former Hot Springs Village resident here.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 12:11 PM
Jul 2020

I loved the 5 years my family lived in the Ouchita Mountains! We moved back up North, but my parents remained in that area, giving us a good reason to visit often. Now that they’ve both passed, that reason no longer remains. I miss Arkansas!

All my remaining friends are democrats fighting the good fight along with you, TomSlick!

marlakay

(11,465 posts)
58. Great! I live in red city in blue state
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 12:36 PM
Jul 2020

And see no Biden signs but one neighbor on my dog walk quite a few blocks away has two Trump signs with a circle and line through it like NOT! One of them hangs upside down. Got to give them for courage.

On our way by the house today a car stopped and 4 people with masks got out and were walking down the street all older women but looked like the conservative ones around here. I heard one say I love the signs and the others agreed.

 
59. Trump is the shiny object in front of democrats
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 01:43 PM
Jul 2020

Who controls what legislation moves forward and what doesn't?

If Hillary had won in 2016, which of her legislative goals would have moved forward?

If Biden wins Nov 3, his AG must move on investigating all Russian deals and payoff. The legislative logjam has one key element...remove that element and the flood of corrective legislation can move forward.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
62. Live in Conservative west Michigan
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 04:50 PM
Jul 2020

Last edited Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:13 PM - Edit history (1)

Our sub division has no signs up save for a Bernie sign that’s been up for over a year. Got my Joe sign and put it up. My next door neighbor who is moving is a Trumpster, he took his kids to the open Michigan protests at the Capital. Decent guy, but glad he’s moving.

Neighbor across the street is a nice older lady with a black lab. Her lab was off leash and charged our Am. Staff terrier and bit her on the shoulder where she had just had surgery for a cancerous tumor. Our dog isn’t friendly with other dogs so she bit the other dog in the throat and did some minor damage that needed stitches. First time we met this lady after living here for 3 years. She was upset her dog got hurt, but knew it was her fault for no leash. Not a great start.

So the day we put our sign up, she comes over very friendly and bubbly. She’s so relieved to see the sign in our neighborhood that she couldn’t contain her joy. Super nice lady I found out is a retired school teacher. Made a new friend.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
64. Great story!
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:00 PM
Jul 2020

A Biden sign mended on old fence and made a new friend. That was a great investment!

I think I'll buy another sign.

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