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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 09:30 AM Jul 2020

Grocery store suspends worker who pepper-sprayed customer after mask confrontation

Ralphs Suspended Employee For Pepper-Spraying Customer Who Rammed Her With Shopping Cart When Asked To Wear A Mask

LOS ANGELES (CBSLA) — Ralphs (grocery chain) confirmed Friday it suspended a store employee who pepper-sprayed a customer who rammed her with a shopping cart when she asked him to wear a mask. The employee had asked the man to wear a mask or leave the store. Instead, he rammed her with a shopping cart, so she pepper-sprayed him and called police.

“The associate was suspended for five days for not following company guidelines on responding to customers not wearing a face covering and not following de-escalation procedures, which could have prevented the incident,” a company spokesman said.

Witnesses to the altercation said the employee was defending herself, but she was still suspended for her part in the incident. The July 15 confrontation happened at the Ralphs on La Brea in the Mid-Wilshire District and was caught on cell phone video.

Face coverings are required in the state of California when social distancing cannot be observed. Ralphs also announced this week that customers would be required to wear masks in all their stores, effective immediately.

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/07/24/ralphs-suspended-employee-pepper-spray-shopping-cart-ramming-face-mask/
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Grocery store suspends worker who pepper-sprayed customer after mask confrontation (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Jul 2020 OP
That's bullshit. She was attacked. n/t rzemanfl Jul 2020 #1
The man physically assaulted her. MineralMan Jul 2020 #2
The employee was physically assaulted. lpbk2713 Jul 2020 #3
sounds like a gofundme opportunity and give ralph's the BIG FU beachbumbob Jul 2020 #4
After store employees have been shot and killed??? marble falls Jul 2020 #5
She's just another brick in the wall. Her rights mean nothing. CaptYossarian Jul 2020 #6
Perhaps she should sue Ralph's and the attacker. 2naSalit Jul 2020 #7
Self defense!! OrlandoDem2 Jul 2020 #8
If this were Florida and the employee used a gun... Silent3 Jul 2020 #9
I hope that she is in a Union Shop and they will Sherman A1 Jul 2020 #10
So guidelines call you for allowing customers to attack you and you not allowed to defend LisaL Jul 2020 #11
While being paid by owner to enforce owner/state mandate. Luz Jul 2020 #13
Imagine if she was a cop... Takket Jul 2020 #12
Oh, brother. Her best defense was following instructions Hortensis Jul 2020 #14
It seems to me that the employee rather overreacted. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #15
I believe she under reacted Sherman A1 Jul 2020 #16
It is surprising that they suspended the employee, sarisataka Jul 2020 #17

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
2. The man physically assaulted her.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 09:33 AM
Jul 2020

She defended herself with pepper spray.

$15 per hour doesn't cover being assaulted with a shopping cart.

Support your employees, Ralph's!

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
3. The employee was physically assaulted.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 09:35 AM
Jul 2020


And you know it's a bad place to work when you have to arm yourself before you report to work.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
6. She's just another brick in the wall. Her rights mean nothing.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 10:05 AM
Jul 2020

This PR move to save one douche customer will backfire.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
10. I hope that she is in a Union Shop and they will
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 11:12 AM
Jul 2020

file a grievance against this suspension. I also hope that she files assault charges against the individual who shoved the cart into her. I was pushed backwards into a shopping cart by a Loss Prevention type at my store many years ago who refused to identify themselves to me in the backroom while I was Receiving. I did not file charges, but he was gone by the end of the day and I received an apology call from the Head of the LP Department.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
11. So guidelines call you for allowing customers to attack you and you not allowed to defend
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 11:16 AM
Jul 2020

yourself? Not very good guidelines.

Takket

(21,563 posts)
12. Imagine if she was a cop...
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 11:23 AM
Jul 2020

A charging customer with a cart would have given her every right to kill him in a haul of bullets and it would be an open and shut case if being “afraid for her life”.

But because she is a grocery store employee left to fight this crisis of stupidity on the front lines... she gets suspended.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Oh, brother. Her best defense was following instructions
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 11:26 AM
Jul 2020

for protecting herself. I can see many disagree, but they should gird their emotional loins for the real possibility that she will be fired. She violated a bunch of rules and not only sprayed this miscreant but endangered other people in the area.

Does anyone know if Ralph's issues pepper spray to associates, and this one in particular? Or is this something she should not have been carrying at work and thus grounds for dismissal in itself?

One thing I know, I don't want to have to worry that I could find myself in a cloud of pepper spray at checkout courtesy of some pissed-off trumpster, and most of them here are, "handling" a situation.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
15. It seems to me that the employee rather overreacted.
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 11:54 AM
Jul 2020

Okay, so the customer shouldn't have rammed her with a shopping cart, but to immediately go to pepper spray? Of course, that's the kind of example that's being set by police and military enforcers everywhere, so there shouldn't be too much of a surprise here.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
16. I believe she under reacted
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 12:21 PM
Jul 2020

although I did like seeing him at the end of the video on the floor I suspect that was most melodrama on his part.

She should have shoved that cart right where the sun don't shine. I dealt with customers like this through 4+ decades of working in Retail and she was assaulted and did what she could to protect herself.

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