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Hekate

(90,674 posts)
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 05:01 PM Jul 2020

"Is Trump overreaching on police power?"

https://enewspaper.latimes.com/infinity/latimes/default.aspx?edid=3a91626a-4d0c-4968-9c07-7bb8b8957baf

I hope that, for a change, this will link where I want it to go, which is today’s Los Angeles Times, page A2

According to this analysis by David G. Savage, provisions in the 2002 law that created the Dept of Homeland Security actually does give POTUS very far-reaching powers, if he chooses to use them. Trump is stretching those provisions — but yes, he apparently does have the non-Constitutional “right.” Some judges will disagree, but others will support him.

Remember 2002? Remember how utterly outraged we were as BushCheney, aided and abetted by certain Senators, started passing laws hand over fist? The USA-PATRIOT ACT (it’s an acronym) appeared virtually overnight, something like 350 pages long, no time for debate, no time to even read it, just pass it RTFN.

The Dept of Homeland Security, likewise. Since when is the USA called The Homeland, anyway? That’s a white European “blood and soil” construct.

Referring to 2002 like that just made my blood boil. Those evil, evil MFers left that stuff lying around in US law like a land mine, or a piece of DNA code waiting to activate and kill your grandchild with cancer, or... help me with an analogy here.

If I can go back and do a copy/paste I will, but otherwise I just recommend the whole thing. The relevant paragraphs are several paras in.

And of course, if he declares an insurrection, all bets are off.




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bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
3. Was super creepy, suspicious that they had the Patriot Act ready almost as soon as the towers fell!!
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 05:19 PM
Jul 2020

That plus W in classroom---

And W not permitted to testify alone before commision investigating 9/11---

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
4. Does it mention...
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 05:19 PM
Jul 2020

The sealed, secret powers that are not available to the public? They do exist and that's what is most ominous.

Off to read the whole article now. Thanks.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
10. Is that really the title of the article? Yes, therefore I put it in quotation marks...
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 05:30 PM
Jul 2020

The important part is where the author/analyst points out where Trump, Barr, et al. actually have a basis in law for their fascist assault on American cities.

I certainly agree it is un-Constitutional. I believe it is also evil. But we as citizens certainly also need to know the basis for Trump’s claim that he can do it.

Resist! Everything is at stake.

BadgerKid

(4,552 posts)
9. he and others are breaking govt and then blaming it
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 05:25 PM
Jul 2020

Mr. Government-is-the-problem Reagan would be so proud.

malaise

(268,976 posts)
12. Never forget that Bush and Cheney came up with Homeland Security
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 05:41 PM
Jul 2020

It was troubling from day one and now here we are with the Con's gestapo ably assisted by Bush and Cheney's Eric Prince.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
13. Yes, the plan and results are always the same...
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 05:58 PM
Jul 2020

Push the country until some portion of it is ready to explode. Then, the cowards bug out and pass the broken country off onto Democrats who must use extreme measures to save the Democracy.

Then, they can sit back and cry out how Democrats are Ruining this or that. It’s coming again, different fucker in charge, different crises. We have to have a strong, loud voice that is not compromised, rise up and flush them out.

Some day, it will not work and there will be extreme consequences. The perpetrators with money have lucked out so far and we haven’t had 100% destruction, but it will happen. People must be available for rebuilding life.

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