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CTyankee

(63,899 posts)
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:02 PM Jul 2020

Is the idea of Trump going to Russia with his family absurd, in your opinion? I am serious here.

This is the game plan: he loses to Biden, he makes a deal with Pence to be pardoned and he resigns, he still has to worry about NY prosecutions but has made plans to get a deal with Putin for him and his family to live in Russia.

So we're rid of him and we have President Biden.

If that's what it takes, I'm good with that. I hate that he doesn't get his just fate but at least he's gone and we have decency restored to the Presidency.

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Is the idea of Trump going to Russia with his family absurd, in your opinion? I am serious here. (Original Post) CTyankee Jul 2020 OP
That could save us on SS costs RainCaster Jul 2020 #1
It's hard to imagine Ivanka and Jared in Moscow. dawg day Jul 2020 #2
There's no golf in Russia. n/t Yavin4 Jul 2020 #3
Putin could put Trump in charge of Russian Gold Development..... OAITW r.2.0 Jul 2020 #26
The problem I see with that is that once Trump is no longer presidnt rurallib Jul 2020 #4
What guarantee could trump get from putin? empedocles Jul 2020 #10
I totally agree pandr32 Jul 2020 #21
Really? NurseJackie Jul 2020 #24
There is a value to Putin hvn_nbr_2 Jul 2020 #30
What does Putin get out of the deal? SallyHemmings Jul 2020 #5
Such a prize? IggleDuer Jul 2020 #14
Not Ivanka, Melania. padah513 Jul 2020 #20
She would Dump Donnie Dumb brains in a New York Minute SallyHemmings Jul 2020 #22
Along those lines, I've long suspected that she's out of there once Trump is out of there. Progressive Jones Jul 2020 #25
A lot of money from US by threatening to send him back. Sneederbunk Jul 2020 #35
He gets a pension for life. I want him in jail. LakeArenal Jul 2020 #6
Prez Biden could sign an Executive Order IggleDuer Jul 2020 #15
Your words to Joe's ear. LakeArenal Jul 2020 #31
Remember when he said he wouldn't take the salary? marlakay Jul 2020 #19
I don't think Putin has any use for him there essme Jul 2020 #7
If so, I hope Putin sets him up in some desolate Khrushchyovka in Norilsk. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2020 #8
Why would Putin want him in Moscow? Mopar151 Jul 2020 #9
I've thought about that often... tandem5 Jul 2020 #11
That assumes Putin would take him. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #12
As of right now the clan might be safer in Brazil rurallib Jul 2020 #13
If Trumpass is ever indicted rusty fender Jul 2020 #16
Mr Lake says the same. LakeArenal Jul 2020 #33
Do I mind if he goes to Russia? No. Do I think he'll have to? Again, no. CrispyQ Jul 2020 #17
Are there any dachas with gold bathroom fixtures? lpbk2713 Jul 2020 #18
Pootie would welcome him. 3Hotdogs Jul 2020 #23
Putin has no use for useless people. Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #27
If I was Putin I would offer to pick him up in my private plane ooky Jul 2020 #28
That will be our payback to Putin lame54 Jul 2020 #29
Melania would be like this: Kingofalldems Jul 2020 #32
An insult to Mrs Douglas. She was beautifully inept. LakeArenal Jul 2020 #34

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
2. It's hard to imagine Ivanka and Jared in Moscow.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:06 PM
Jul 2020

Where would Jared get his Botox injections? How would Ivanka whiten her teeth to the blinding level?

If they're indicted in the US, they wouldn't be able to go to Western Europe without risking arrest, so no quick shopping trips to Harrods in London.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,393 posts)
26. Putin could put Trump in charge of Russian Gold Development.....
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:48 PM
Jul 2020

offer hims a very lucrative deal. Trump might jump on that and say, "I've decided to take the Russian offer to develop a new development opportunity under a newly formed corporation, PuTrump Investment Propererties,LLC. I will be immediately relocating to Moscow full-time with Don, Jr, Eric, jared and Ivanka to start this fantastic business opportunity."

Having Don reporting to Vlad for the rest of his days would be something he'd enjoy....

rurallib

(62,401 posts)
4. The problem I see with that is that once Trump is no longer presidnt
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:06 PM
Jul 2020

he is of no use to Putin. Thus the value of his life in Russia would be zero, maybe even negative.

He may well fall out of a hotel window from a high floor.

hvn_nbr_2

(6,486 posts)
30. There is a value to Putin
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 02:12 PM
Jul 2020

It would show Putin's other puppets worldwide that you won't be thrown to the wolves, so they won't get antsy. It would cause Putin little expense to let Donnie & the brood of grifters to live at an airport lounge with Snowden (or wherever Snowden is now).

However, Donnie will never be satisfied and so you're probably right in the end--he'd fall out of a tall building.

padah513

(2,498 posts)
20. Not Ivanka, Melania.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:24 PM
Jul 2020

There's chemistry between those two. I saw it at one of those summits. I can't remember which one, but she and Putie-poot were all smiles. I think they were speaking in her native tongue, and the boob was standing there looking like a real goober because he didn't understand a single word they were saying.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
25. Along those lines, I've long suspected that she's out of there once Trump is out of there.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:45 PM
Jul 2020

We can jab at the "First Lady" all we want, but I believe she's just hanging on until
the Stain is removed from the WH. I don't see her as very happy.

marlakay

(11,443 posts)
19. Remember when he said he wouldn't take the salary?
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:23 PM
Jul 2020

This will be a slap in the face forevermore. Congress isn't going to push too hard for putting presidents in jail because they have so many conservative judges now god only knows what they would make up for our presidents.

We will be lucky if we can just get rid of him. I fully expect he will make some kind of deal during election that we will never hear about something like, no one goes after me or my family, and I will step aside no problems.

essme

(1,207 posts)
7. I don't think Putin has any use for him there
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:08 PM
Jul 2020

Putin has no respect for Trump whatsoever.

Maybe if he were wealthy-- but, no. The man, and his disgusting children, have too much real debt and baggage.

I have wondered where they'll go. They certainly are not welcome in NYC, and cannot afford to use Mar-a-whateverthehellthatplaceiscalled as a home.

I guess they could buy some unused farm land in Iowa or some where out in the serious boonies--- but, I'll be damned if I can think of anything else.

Mopar151

(9,977 posts)
9. Why would Putin want him in Moscow?
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:10 PM
Jul 2020

"Fock him, he is pain in my ass!" Maybe Pootie can find him some white elephant (Sochi Olympic complex?) to screw around with, out in the "sticks", away from most of the press. Ivanka's "global brand" can wither and die therre too......

tandem5

(2,072 posts)
11. I've thought about that often...
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:11 PM
Jul 2020

and Putin would love nothing better than to embarrass us by having a president flee to Russia in full public view, but Trump has a strong survival instinct and I think he knows at a basic level that his life is more in jeopardy there than here. Additionally he's got decades of evidence demonstrating that he can dupe Americans out of any sort of accountability.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,658 posts)
12. That assumes Putin would take him.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:11 PM
Jul 2020

But since Putin would have to deal with Biden as president, offering sanctuary to Trump so he could escape prosecution in the US would make US-Russia relations even worse than they already are. Putin knows Biden isn't going to cut him any slack as it is, and is likely to impose painful sanctions in retaliation for election meddling and other malfeasance in any event. Putin gets no benefit whatsoever for sheltering Trump; what would be in it for him or Russia? He's not going to be grateful to Trump for making a mess in the U.S. since gratitude isn't in the playbook of a former KGB agent. He won't get money out of Trump, since Trump is almost certainly broke and already owes the oligarchs millions. Trump has probably been laundering money for the Russians through shell corporations and dodgy real estate deals but if he's hiding in Russia and unable to do business in the US (and no doubt with his US assets seized by prosecutors), he won't even be able to do that. Once Trump is no longer president Putin will have no use for him. So Putin has no incentive to take him in and every reason not to.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
16. If Trumpass is ever indicted
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:20 PM
Jul 2020

he will get the best plea deal ever. He needs no pardon, he doesn’t need to flee the U.S.

Yes, the idea that he will have to flee to Russia is absurd

CrispyQ

(36,437 posts)
17. Do I mind if he goes to Russia? No. Do I think he'll have to? Again, no.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:21 PM
Jul 2020

The Con will never be held accountable for the crimes he's committed or the damage he's done. I'm trying to come to terms with that fact, cuz I think that he will get away with everything he's done. Just wait. There will be an aversion to going after an ex-president. Or it won't be deemed worth it. Or we'll just be so fucking grateful the asshole isn't in our face 24x7, that we won't push it.

3Hotdogs

(12,358 posts)
23. Pootie would welcome him.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:37 PM
Jul 2020

Unspoken message to future G.O.P. corrupt politicians.... I'll take good care of ya when you're out of office.

ooky

(8,920 posts)
28. If I was Putin I would offer to pick him up in my private plane
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:53 PM
Jul 2020

and then have him thrown out somewhere over Siberia. After giving him a diaper and ordering him to dance in it. Call it "Last Dance".

Putin has no more use for him if he's not here in the U.S. stirring up trouble.

He might try the Saudis, unless he is afraid of bone saws.

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