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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 11:18 PM Jul 2020

Opinion: Portland's protests were supposed to be about black lives. Now, they're white spectacle"

Portland’s protests were supposed to be about black lives. Now, they’re white spectacle.

Early in his activism, Malcolm X was asked by a young white woman what she could do to help the cause of civil rights. He famously replied, “Nothing.” Years later, he regretted dismissing her so abruptly, because he came to believe there was much she could do to advance the cause of justice for black people in the United States. But I am quite certain that striking yoga poses nude on the streets of Portland, Ore., was not on his list of actionable items.

Images of “Naked Athena,” as the protester has been labeled, have gone viral, her unclothed confrontation with police earning her accolades as a brave ally of the cause. But I see something else: a beneficiary of white privilege dancing vainly on a stage that was originally created to raise up the voices of my oppressed brothers and sisters. In this, she is not alone. As the demonstrations continue every night in Portland, many people with their own agendas are co-opting, and distracting attention from, what should be our central concern: the Black Lives Matter movement.
...
Unfortunately, “spectacle” is now the best way to describe Portland’s protests. Vandalizing government buildings and hurling projectiles at law enforcement draw attention — but how do these actions stop police from killing black people? What are antifa and other leftist agitators achieving for the cause of black equality? The “Wall of Moms,” while perhaps well-intentioned, ends up redirecting attention away from the urgent issue of murdered black bodies. This might ease the consciences of white, affluent women who have previously been silent in the face of black oppression, but it’s fair to ask: Are they really furthering the cause of justice, or is this another example of white co-optation?
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We cannot fall for their deception. We cannot settle for spectacles that endanger us all. This is a moment for serious action — to once again take up the mantle of the civil rights era by summoning the same conviction and determination our forebears did. We welcome our white brothers and sisters in this struggle. In fact, we need them. But I must ask them to remain humbly attuned to the opportunity of this moment — and to reflect on whether any actions they take will truly help establish justice, or whether they are simply for show.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/23/portlands-protests-were-supposed-be-about-black-lives-now-theyre-white-spectacle/#click=https://t.co/Aeytu4K48v
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Opinion: Portland's protests were supposed to be about black lives. Now, they're white spectacle" (Original Post) StarfishSaver Jul 2020 OP
I'm sympathetic, but what is the proper response to Erik Prince's Hassler Jul 2020 #1
You are asking for the coordination of a mob. Good luck. Sneederbunk Jul 2020 #2
An opinion worth consideration. It does appear to be a different protest from BLM, Hoyt Jul 2020 #3
Just read a thread about an injured medic in PDX - he says the protest on the ground is still BLM: chia Jul 2020 #38
gee maybe there is more than one thing at a time that is protest worthy nt msongs Jul 2020 #4
It's no longer just about BLM. It is about our Constitutional rights. tinrobot Jul 2020 #5
the optics speaks for themselves... agingdem Jul 2020 #6
This...Trump pretends to be a Tin Pot Dictator yuiyoshida Jul 2020 #18
There Is No Question But What The Goon Squads Changed Everything DallasNE Jul 2020 #27
And that is precisely the problem frazzled Jul 2020 #30
Why not both, in parallel, not in opposition? chia Jul 2020 #36
Because ... frazzled Jul 2020 #39
Well said misanthrope Jul 2020 #53
I notice the right wing doesn't find marybourg Jul 2020 #7
Whites in America outnumber Blacks like 5-6 to 1. Blue_true Jul 2020 #11
As a white person, I'm afraid to make mistakes in how best to be of assistance chia Jul 2020 #37
You are doing the right thing by listening and quietly paying attention. Blue_true Jul 2020 #46
Thank you! So much valuable information here to ponder, chia Jul 2020 #47
You're right that it helps for us to explain things to white people StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #50
You make a good point. But if you read my post again, it was explain with the expectation Blue_true Jul 2020 #51
I read your and agree with your point. My post wasn't intended to counter you StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #52
appreciate the point, but stopdiggin Jul 2020 #8
When the BLM agingdem Jul 2020 #15
Black people are not going to get far against the system without White allies. Blue_true Jul 2020 #9
+1000 Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #13
The last paragraph is the clincher of the article. herding cats Jul 2020 #10
Bravo herdingcats!! This is what civil rights icons would say to do...and did! Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author morillon Jul 2020 #19
There has been nothing of the kind... A BLM protest was met with bullets and Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #25
The last paragraph misses one key thing quakerboy Jul 2020 #21
+1 betsuni Jul 2020 #22
Yep! LeftInTX Jul 2020 #26
I'll make sure to run all my future protest ideas by E.D. Mondain first. ZZenith Jul 2020 #12
What a ridiculous comment StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #45
What a ridiculous editorial. ZZenith Jul 2020 #49
The entire country has fallen into the hands of a fascist cabal directed by a foreign enemy... Hekate Jul 2020 #16
I submit that it is still about BLM. Gore1FL Jul 2020 #17
Portland's Wall of Moms turned over leadership of their group to Black and Indigenous women flibbitygiblets Jul 2020 #20
About naked yoga woman, I couldn't help think: that's such an art major thing to do. betsuni Jul 2020 #23
shes a POC and a Sex Worker. maxsolomon Jul 2020 #42
I agree LeftInTX Jul 2020 #24
I don't necessarily disagree. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2020 #28
The writer seems to not get that maxrandb Jul 2020 #29
The author's concern is that "morphing" is really "subsuming" StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #31
The writer "gets" plenty and doesn't need to whitesplained to StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #35
Maybe the white folks should just go home Yeehah Jul 2020 #32
Not a helpful or thoughtful response StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #34
People of all races and backgrounds are fighting the power TOGETHER Yeehah Jul 2020 #40
Yet it seems that only white people threaten to stop "fighting the power" when black people aren't StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #41
Who threatened to stop fighting? Yeehah Jul 2020 #43
You should look at the author of post #32 tonedevil Jul 2020 #44
These are good questions and worth some thought! nt gollygee Jul 2020 #33
I, native Portlander, am watching the live feed into the wee hours every night. Grasswire2 Jul 2020 #48

Hassler

(3,377 posts)
1. I'm sympathetic, but what is the proper response to Erik Prince's
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 11:29 PM
Jul 2020

Goonsquad invading your city? Sure there was Naked Athena, but there are also mom's and retired vets getting beaten and gassed in their opposition to the occupation.

They didn't change the subject, Chump did when he sent them in.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. An opinion worth consideration. It does appear to be a different protest from BLM,
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 11:32 PM
Jul 2020

which I support completely.

chia

(2,244 posts)
38. Just read a thread about an injured medic in PDX - he says the protest on the ground is still BLM:
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 10:53 AM
Jul 2020
4) Find Black-led orgs and businesses in your area and support them however you can. The big media narrative at the moment has been about the federal occupation, but on the ground for us this fight has always and continues to be a fight for Black Lives.
I'm gonna be out of commission for a couple days probably, but I'm gonna be back out as soon as I can. I'm so fucking proud of this city I could weep. Stay together stay tight, we'll do this every night. Black Lives Matter.


It's a great and informative first-hand account, posted by oregonjen here and I highly recommend you read the entire FB message at the link in the OP:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213813527

https://www.facebook.com/natescohen/posts/10157473208325976

tinrobot

(10,899 posts)
5. It's no longer just about BLM. It is about our Constitutional rights.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 11:43 PM
Jul 2020

Our right to speak, to assemble, to protest.

Things changed when the goon squad came to town.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
18. This...Trump pretends to be a Tin Pot Dictator
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 01:47 AM
Jul 2020

sending his goon squad to various cities to STIR SHIT UP... that's basically what he is doing, He is counting on FEAR
to be a motivation to vote for him...


" oooooooooooooh DONNY PLEASE ONLY YOU CAN SAVE US...We're so scared, we need a strong leader ... "



...asshole. fuck him.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
27. There Is No Question But What The Goon Squads Changed Everything
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 02:39 AM
Jul 2020

The disease has spread to all police departments. Some of the meager gains won in the May protests seem to have been given back. We have a different opponent using hardball tactics at the drop of a hat. Enter Naked Athena. For one day she stopped the goons in their tracks. Obviously, that is a one trick pony - but don't knock it. But one thing I do strongly agree with. The movement has been knocked off of their message and that has to get refocused. Mom's has grown out of necessity but they have not been strong advocates for putting out the BLM message so that needs to be corrected. But those are powerful images of women being snagged by police. The image of the police dragging away a terrified white woman desperately reaching back to grab onto anything to keep her from meeting her certain fate is an extremely powerful message. BLM needs to be sympathetic before pointing out how that is a nearly everyday occurrence in the black community - perhaps with some of the rough ways cops treat black women routinely. We're all in this together so quibbling about who gets the credit is a sure way to sour the common bond that has emerged.

Saturday night in Omaha a mostly while group of 118 protesters gathered by the WW I memorial at Turner Park & Farnam. The theme was BLM issues, including justice for a young unarmed black man that was gunned down in cold blood by a known racist white bar owner in Omaha. Unknown to this group an armada of 20 police vehicles were waiting in a Mutual of Omaha parking lot and when the protesters moved out and headed east on Farnam St. the police headed out too. When the protesters proceeded across a bridge over the Interstate highway below, which was 3 blocks from where they assembled, the police moved in on both ends of the bridge, trapping the protesters on the bridge. The police immediately tackled the protest leader, shot him with pepper pellets of some kind, from short range and body-slammed him on the concrete, causing a bloody nose. All 118 were booked and because the police computers suddenly failed it took about 7 hours before they could be released. Everybody knows what this is all about. Trump paved the way for excessive use of force and the protest group has called for the defunding of the police. So time for the pokice to let them know who is calling the shots. Yes, we are essentially back to square one and that is just how Trump wants it. So time to get all factions working from the same playbook. This is too important to allow some quibbling over credit to sidetrack the effort. Naked Athena opened the door for Moms. Let's be thankful for that.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
30. And that is precisely the problem
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 08:09 AM
Jul 2020

You’ve said it yourself. It’s no longer about Black lives mattering. It’s no longer about disparities in policing (we white kids wanna get abused by the police too!) and the justice system (these protesters will not get life sentences or the breath squeezed out of them for no reason). It’s not about race-based inequalities in health care, jobs, schools. It’s not about the legacy of four-hundred years of slavery, Jim Crow, and systemic racism.

It’s not about racism at all, really. It’s been co-opted. And that is why the promise of the Black Lives Matter movement, so shining for a moment in Black-led, white solidarity power, is being lost, and why racism in this country will persist.

Continual street protests and violence are theater. The movement must be taken into the institutions themselves now, with the hard, unglamorous, behind-the-scenes work with school boards and prison boards, state legislatures and city halls, Congressional offices and workplaces.

chia

(2,244 posts)
36. Why not both, in parallel, not in opposition?
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 10:22 AM
Jul 2020

Why can't the BLM movement be taken into the institutions at the same time people of all colors protest the police state and unconstitutional fed troop presence? There are many people protesting about many things every day. They don't have to work in unison, but they can at least work parallel, rather than at cross purposes.

I also think this is going to be different based on the protest histories unique to different cities. Portland is not St. Louis is not Los Angeles.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
39. Because ...
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 10:54 AM
Jul 2020

these ancillary protests are sucking all the air out of the room, diverting attention as they attract attention. The fact that they are there with tactics intended to induce police and fed reaction (you know that is true) means they are simply fighting the thing they wished for.

It's called Eyes on the Prize.

misanthrope

(7,411 posts)
53. Well said
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 08:06 PM
Jul 2020

I was afraid this would happen at some point. I also fear that it's being driven, in part by extreme-right agitators full aware of the dynamic and focal shift in play.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
11. Whites in America outnumber Blacks like 5-6 to 1.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 12:05 AM
Jul 2020

We simply need fair minded Whites helping us. Since their raw numbers are larger, they will tend to be a large part of protests they join.

I don’t feel that Black people can expect to exclude participation of Whites in the discussion and conflict about where we move to as a society. Such an exclusion simply won’t work out in the end and will only harm us, IMO.

chia

(2,244 posts)
37. As a white person, I'm afraid to make mistakes in how best to be of assistance
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 10:42 AM
Jul 2020

Last edited Mon Jul 27, 2020, 12:56 PM - Edit history (1)

to people of color, and will end up insulting or diminishing the message of the very people for whom I want to be an ally. I've been trying to listen and pay attention to your voices, and it's been a sobering lesson for me to hear your important messages framed in ways I truly hadn't considered because they're about life experiences I haven't encountered. I do believe your white allies have it in our hearts to help but can be clumsy or thoughtless in the way we go about it. I'm trying to learn how not to do that, but can understand, as I've heard it said by more than one Black voice, that it's not up to Black people to explain it to us, some of them are tired of trying to explain it to us, white people need to get busy doing our own work of understanding.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
46. You are doing the right thing by listening and quietly paying attention.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 05:15 PM
Jul 2020

I disagree with other Black people that say it is not our jobs to explain things to White people. If a White person is seriously working to understand our experience better, it helps us to explain the intricate aspects of our experience to that person, why we may see a sales person saying “may I help you” in a vastly different light than a White person would, or why we get nervous in the presence of a White police officer, even when we are innocently going about our normal business. Explaining and having the White person absorb that explanation, ask more questions and go off and do more self study, is valuable in the fight against systemic racism, IMO.

I honestly don’t like seeing White people act like their Black associates or friends, it simply comes off as contrived. My life experiences are vastly different from those of a White person, even a White person that had similar and has similar economic circumstance as me. What I prefer to see is a White person make a true effort to understand why I don’t see rather common events in society the same way they do. They don’t have to fully agree with my responses and prescriptions, but it is nice when they come up with workable approaches to problems that I and them can use to solve those problems in a way that is fair and Just to everyone.

chia

(2,244 posts)
47. Thank you! So much valuable information here to ponder,
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 05:34 PM
Jul 2020

I appreciate it more than I can say. ❤️ I’ll be watching for other posts of yours from now on.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
50. You're right that it helps for us to explain things to white people
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:48 PM
Jul 2020

The problem is when we have to try to explain it over and over and over - and when white people tell us we don't know what we're talking about. Even worse is when white people blame US for not explaining it well enough and insist that we need to explain it differently so that other white people better understand - while they themselves are doing nothing to try to talk to other white people about the issue.

If it IS our job to explain things to white people, it's EVERYBODY's job. And white folk need to stop telling us it's our responsibility and then either of oring what we're saying and/or blaming us for not explaining it to their satisfaction.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
51. You make a good point. But if you read my post again, it was explain with the expectation
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 07:02 PM
Jul 2020

that the person explained will act in a positive way, that includes explaining realities to relatives and friends.

Change isn’t easy. Often there are setbacks, but those that prevail in the end get up from the setbacks and start over if that is what it takes.

White people, even ones that had the exact same economic circumstances as a Black person, simply are culturally different, they had no reason to harbor the same fears as us about police actions or being treated with respect by teachers, sales people, bosses, etc. I believe that as Black people, we should take that into account, not to give them an out, but to talk to them in a way that is more effective in recruiting them as earnest allies against social injustice.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
52. I read your and agree with your point. My post wasn't intended to counter you
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 08:02 PM
Jul 2020

But I was restating my belief that many of these conversations need to be had among white people.

stopdiggin

(11,306 posts)
8. appreciate the point, but
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 11:58 PM
Jul 2020

isn't a fairly significant part of all protest "spectacle?" The signs, the gear .. the costuming? Planned arrest? Let's face it .. if the TV crew doesn't show up, it's considered kind of a bust. So ...

Like I said, I do understand what the article is saying .. but I'm not sure how you get from here, to there.

agingdem

(7,849 posts)
15. When the BLM
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 12:51 AM
Jul 2020

took to the streets in protest we stopped playing nice...Portland Seattle Chicago Austin...the intent is still BLM but it's morphed into something more powerful...we've had it with racist hate ethnic hate gender hate...we've had it with nazis as "very nice people"...we've had it with nearly 150,000 lost lives because of Trump's callous disregard for human life ..we've had it with babies in cages ... we want Trump out....the "spectacle" is mothers and fathers protecting their most precious possession..their children and the goons intent on causing them harm..we want our country back but better...that's what's happening and it's about damn time

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
9. Black people are not going to get far against the system without White allies.
Sun Jul 26, 2020, 11:58 PM
Jul 2020

Whatever the methods of the Whites, as long as their hearts are pure and full of desire for justice and equality, as a Black person, I welcome them.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
10. The last paragraph is the clincher of the article.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 12:01 AM
Jul 2020
I am not suggesting retreat. Instead, I am proposing that we take the cause of Black Lives Matter into those places where tear gas and rubber bullets and federal agents cannot find us, and where there is less risk of spectacle distracting from our true aims. In boardrooms, in schools, in city councils, in the halls of justice, in the smoky backrooms of a duplicitous government — that is where we will finally dismantle the gears of the brutal, racist machine that has been terrorizing black Americans and hollowing out the moral character of this nation since its inception.


Which I have been seeing happening, but I definitely agree these are the venues where true change is made. At least the systemic type which actually takes root and lasts.

Great opinion piece.

Thekaspervote

(32,764 posts)
14. Bravo herdingcats!! This is what civil rights icons would say to do...and did!
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 12:19 AM
Jul 2020

Protests heighten awareness, but isn’t the end all. We then have to move it into the functioning local government bodies and beyond

Response to herding cats (Reply #10)

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
25. There has been nothing of the kind... A BLM protest was met with bullets and
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 02:20 AM
Jul 2020

tear gas...and George Floyd's death crosses all racial lines...It is good to have a diverse protest. We join hands and demand justice and if we are met with bullets, tear gas and batons, we fight back.

And consider that when King and all the other great civil rights leader marched, there were white allies. marching with them. I know this first hand as my parents marched on Washington. It was before I made my appearance but I have seen the pictures and my old brothers and sisters have told me.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
21. The last paragraph misses one key thing
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 02:06 AM
Jul 2020

If the people stop showing in the streets, the people in the boardrooms, schools, city councils, and back rooms will rapidly go back to doing what they have always done. Finding handy excuses to do nothing, change nothing, help nothing.

Neither side of this will work without the other. If the meetings arent happening, the streets wont get any change. If the streets dont happen, the meetings wont accomplish anything.

Hekate

(90,677 posts)
16. The entire country has fallen into the hands of a fascist cabal directed by a foreign enemy...
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 01:01 AM
Jul 2020

And somehow we are expected to not notice that, or act against it, because those actions will “distract” from BLM.

Seriously, can we not hold more than one thought at a time.

Ooookay.

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
17. I submit that it is still about BLM.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 01:18 AM
Jul 2020

It has just expanded to include an even more encompassing fight for justice due to the way Trump decided to escalate it.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
20. Portland's Wall of Moms turned over leadership of their group to Black and Indigenous women
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 01:59 AM
Jul 2020

"all White group admins have relinquished their roles", now their "leadership is entirely composed of Black and Indigenous women from most-impacted communities". Press release including group's vision (worth a read): https://thewallofmoms.com/

To be a member, all non-POCs also agree not to lead chants or speak to press (they refer to local Black-led movements and/or BLM leaders). We cool now?

betsuni

(25,512 posts)
23. About naked yoga woman, I couldn't help think: that's such an art major thing to do.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 02:17 AM
Jul 2020

Not that there's anything wrong with it.

LeftInTX

(25,314 posts)
24. I agree
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 02:18 AM
Jul 2020

These are the same people who protested against Milo Yiannopoulos speaking at Berkeley, only on a larger scale and at federal buildings that have attracted Trump and his robocops. Yes, there are good people protesting, but to me it's more or less the same type of thing as Milo Yiannopoulos. It seems to me, it's a daily power struggle between the Trump's robocops and the protesters. I feel the protesters want the robocops to leave the courthouse, just like they wanted Milo not to speak at Berkeley. To me, it just feels like a power struggle and neither side is going to give.

I was very disappointed that the judge did not grant the feds a RO, so we are stuck with power struggles, fireworks, teargas etc.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
28. I don't necessarily disagree.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 07:40 AM
Jul 2020

While I’m horrified by the militarized response and authoritarian undertones to the Portland protests, the Portland protests have become less about the BLM movement and more about themselves.

That’s not to excuse any of what has happened as a response. It’s a nightmare and demonstrates Trump’s desire to be seen as a Putin-like strongman.

But the original objective of the protests has more or less wore away, and now it’s almost become something of a showcase vehicle protesting how protests are being handled.

Definitely not wrong. But definitely different from where we’ve started.

maxrandb

(15,330 posts)
29. The writer seems to not get that
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 07:52 AM
Jul 2020

Retrumplicans are not just a threat to minorities.

The entire Retrumplican Party needs to be taken down and discarded to the landfill of history.

This is an all hands on deck moment.

Want a more just America? Then the Retrumplican Party needs to be defeated.

I think it's great that the Black Lives Matter movement has morphed into the Democracy and Justice for All Matter movement in Portland.

Those two things are as conjoined as food and water for man's survival.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
31. The author's concern is that "morphing" is really "subsuming"
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 08:32 AM
Jul 2020

When black movements "morph" into larger movements, our issues usually get co-opted and sidelined.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
35. The writer "gets" plenty and doesn't need to whitesplained to
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 09:57 AM
Jul 2020

It would be nice if you considered what they have to say rather than just assume they don't "get" things as well as you do.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
34. Not a helpful or thoughtful response
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 09:55 AM
Jul 2020

It's not even original. You're not the first person to use that old beat up "You're not sufficiently grateful to white people for taking up your cause, so maybe we'll just walk away and forget the whole thing" threat rather than actually consider what we have to say, even if it makes you uncomfortable.



Yeehah

(4,587 posts)
40. People of all races and backgrounds are fighting the power TOGETHER
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 10:58 AM
Jul 2020

What is truly not helpful is people trying to divide that unity.

Have a great day!

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
41. Yet it seems that only white people threaten to stop "fighting the power" when black people aren't
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 12:48 PM
Jul 2020

nice enough to them and then accuse US of "dividing that unity" whenever we don't behave just as they think we should.

I wonder why that is?


 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
44. You should look at the author of post #32
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 02:15 PM
Jul 2020

their knee jerk reaction is to say white people should go home. To me that is someone threatening to stop fighting. It also seems to be based on black people not being polite enough to white people.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
48. I, native Portlander, am watching the live feed into the wee hours every night.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:07 PM
Jul 2020

It is a scene of two protests.

9-11 p.m., wonderful unity in BLM support from thousands of white folk and PoC. Veterans, moms, dads, church groups, come together in support of racial justice.

11 p.m. when the goons bring out the gas, all hell breaks loose. The large portion of the crowd goes home just before that. And the medium-core protesters mix with regular citizens protecting each other, kicking back the gas canisters, shielding others, maintaining a presence on public property.

This goes on until the wee hours.

It is not legit to say that BLM is set aside. That's not so.

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