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Churchill nailed us cold. (Original Post) shockey80 Jul 2020 OP
The evidence connecting Churchill to the saying is late and very weak: King of the sheep Jul 2020 #1
Apt quote for our circumstances. empedocles Jul 2020 #2
Even if it is weak, That's exactly what we did until forced into the war by the Japanese Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #3
Yep! Mike 03 Jul 2020 #7
With hindsight sarisataka Jul 2020 #12
I have no doubt that Churchill did say something to that effect. luvtheGWN Jul 2020 #6
Credit our firm embrace of FreeDumbs ToxMarz Jul 2020 #4
Still better than never doing the right thing at all. Aristus Jul 2020 #5
Exactly right. zentrum Jul 2020 #8
And with racism. nt barbtries Jul 2020 #9
Many Brits want to take zentrum Jul 2020 #10
not defending churchill, barbtries Jul 2020 #11
Yes, I understood. zentrum Jul 2020 #16
+1 million geardaddy Jul 2020 #15
That's what we're doing right now with racism and antiracist blowback. ancianita Jul 2020 #13
Churchill was a racist pig. n/t geardaddy Jul 2020 #14

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
7. Yep!
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 11:40 AM
Jul 2020

Although, to be fair, Britain struggled a bit to get engaged in the early stages of WW2. (Of course, it wasn't entirely their fault--there was the fiasco in Belgium). I almost hate to point that out, since they were tremendous heroes at most stages of the war and bore the brunt of many brutal aerial and sea attacks.

The British are our greatest allies.

We could use a Churchill now, or an FDR.

sarisataka

(18,483 posts)
12. With hindsight
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 12:14 PM
Jul 2020

It is always easy to see which wars a country should have joined immediately and which should have been avoided altogether.

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
6. I have no doubt that Churchill did say something to that effect.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 11:37 AM
Jul 2020

He was frustrated by the fact that the US Congress was so reluctant to come to the aid of its allies in fighting the Nazis. They tried everything until FDR finally got his way. Of course, Pearl Harbour helped it along.....

Aristus

(66,286 posts)
5. Still better than never doing the right thing at all.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 11:31 AM
Jul 2020

Churchill was a vicious racist who opposed independence for India, and never admitted that it was the right thing to do.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
10. Many Brits want to take
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 12:06 PM
Jul 2020

….down his statues now or at least teach the truth about him.

His white supremacy views were lethal, not just for India, but for Africa. Responsible for the death and suffering of thousands.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/not-his-finest-hour-the-dark-side-of-winston-churchill-2118317.html

ancianita

(35,932 posts)
13. That's what we're doing right now with racism and antiracist blowback.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 12:16 PM
Jul 2020

The Churchillian view: Let the white trash the Europeans sent over here do the world's work for them. Use them, disinform them of "history." Make them figure it out. And don't help them, just look on in mockery and pity. It's a long history.

It's the cage they helped put us in and now that we're trying to get out of it, their NAZI RACIST tool is using force to keep that status quo of the banksters' racial capitalist power hierarchy.

We need to talk reparations around here.

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