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babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 04:34 PM Jul 2020

Trump Humiliated And Forced To Cancel Meeting After Drug Companies Refuse To Show Up

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/07/27/trump-drug-company-meeting.html

Posted on Mon, Jul 27th, 2020 by Jason Easley
Trump Humiliated And Forced To Cancel Meeting After Drug Companies Refuse To Show Up


Trump was forced to cancel a meeting with the nation’s five largest pharmaceutical companies after they refused to show up.

Politico reported:

A White House meeting with top pharmaceutical executives that President Donald Trump promised for Tuesday is off, five industry sources familiar with discussions told POLITICO. Three said the drug-pricing discussion was canceled because the major drug lobbies, reeling from Friday’s cluster of executive orders on the topic, refused to send any members.

Drugmakers and Trump were slated to discuss an executive order, signed Friday but not yet released, that would order health officials to release a plan linking Medicare payments for certain medicines to lower costs paid abroad. The provision, known as a most-favored-nations rule, has been lambasted by the drug industry and some patient groups that say it would curb innovation and reduce drug access.


No one is happy with Trump’s executive order, but instead of coming to the White House to make their case to Trump, the drug companies think so little of Trump that they are blowing him off in a sure sign that they don’t fear this president or any potential retribution from him.

Trump’s power has diminished to such a degree that companies have gone from tripping over themselves to get some good publicity from one his tweets to not bothering to show up at the White House for a meeting.

There is no greater sign than a president is on his way to being voted out than when he is ignored.
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Trump Humiliated And Forced To Cancel Meeting After Drug Companies Refuse To Show Up (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2020 OP
K&R smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #1
I'll bet that H2O Man Jul 2020 #16
He's not used to people saying no to him. smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #27
Well said. H2O Man Jul 2020 #28
What sucks bigly is he'll exact his revenge on us all even moreso then usual. SammyWinstonJack Jul 2020 #34
Serves the PINO idiot right. Everyone is no longer paying attn to him, ignoring his worthless ... SWBTATTReg Jul 2020 #53
It is actually a GOOD Executive Order. Laelth Jul 2020 #2
Maybe, unless you're Canada... paleotn Jul 2020 #5
He ordered them to come up with a plan. That's all. Laelth Jul 2020 #10
It's all about profit and fear of regulation. Dios Mio Jul 2020 #6
It just goes to show... SkyDaddy7 Jul 2020 #11
Trump is so ignorant DENVERPOPS Jul 2020 #15
That's because WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2020 #26
Will it stand up in court Trenzalore Jul 2020 #19
No. I very much doubt it. Laelth Jul 2020 #21
That's part of why I'm not sure how to feel about this... Volaris Jul 2020 #30
This isn't an effective way to accomplish the goal. As shown. yardwork Jul 2020 #36
Grifters vs. grifters central scrutinizer Jul 2020 #41
it's a desperate political stunt. we are a nation of laws--not executive orders SiliconValley_Dem Jul 2020 #48
not as good as a law though LymphocyteLover Jul 2020 #54
An FU to Donnyboy? Lol. Lovin it. Nt BootinUp Jul 2020 #3
I've got one of those! Can I join in? calimary Jul 2020 #22
And his executive orders are meaningless.... paleotn Jul 2020 #4
He Dios Mio Jul 2020 #8
So, Trump's big Exec. order announced late last week on lowering drug prices is a DUD!............. riversedge Jul 2020 #7
They see him as a dead man walking. nt SunSeeker Jul 2020 #9
A rotting corpse in the hot desert sun,... nobody wants to get near it. magicarpet Jul 2020 #12
He just wanted a photo op and a commitment... Xolodno Jul 2020 #13
Maybe at least part if it was that hey really didn't want to visit the visit the WH COVID den. RockCreek Jul 2020 #14
How'd that all work out for you, little Donny? Blue Owl Jul 2020 #17
This keeps up, he'll be free to throw out that first pitch--- lastlib Jul 2020 #18
It's only fair Leith Jul 2020 #20
I'm in no way a fan of "Big Pharma" WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2020 #23
I saw a drug lobby TV ad today James48 Jul 2020 #24
For much of government procurement, companies are legally Politicub Jul 2020 #51
They have dealt with Trump before. lpbk2713 Jul 2020 #25
I guess his ass has lost its flavor. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2020 #29
Art of the deal! jcgoldie Jul 2020 #31
Jon Noughton should be painting trump as this: Ilsa Jul 2020 #32
He thinks he rules the world by decree. warmfeet Jul 2020 #33
The normal way to do this is Captain Zero Jul 2020 #35
Well, screw THEM. Letting Medicare negotiate pricing is a big deal. oldsoftie Jul 2020 #37
a humiliated Trump is dangerous. Expect exec order making aspirin illegal or some such nonsense Demovictory9 Jul 2020 #38
Am I wrong or was he trying to do a GOOD thing for many Americans? BadGimp Jul 2020 #39
It does sound like it, doesn't it? Must be some kind of mistake. Chemisse Jul 2020 #42
One of the largest financial sector employers has refused an invite as well. KentuckyWoman Jul 2020 #40
You mean he was actually going to make companies lower their exorbitant drug prices and they BComplex Jul 2020 #43
I know. I don't know why people are cheering the drug companies here democrattotheend Jul 2020 #55
This why Dems will use both houses of Congress to ream Big Pharma a new a**hole pecosbob Jul 2020 #44
I hope your wish list comes true. BComplex Jul 2020 #56
I'm sure "Pharma Bro" is available for a meeting. Coventina Jul 2020 #45
Yep. Also, not sure he'd ever even contacted them to come for a meeting captain queeg Jul 2020 #46
Has it ever occurred to Trump Larissa Jul 2020 #47
Well, he still has Cult45 madly devoted to him. Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2020 #49
This whole thing just plays into the hands of the conspiracy theorists bitch about Covid19 mdbl Jul 2020 #50
More's the pity. It sounds like Trump was trying to force them to lower drug prices to bring them Nitram Jul 2020 #52
They know he's a lame duck nt Nululu Jul 2020 #57
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
27. He's not used to people saying no to him.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:35 PM
Jul 2020

Or blowing him off. As dense as he is, even he has to see the writing on the wall and he must be infuriated and deeply wounded at the same time. He is losing his power and there isn't anything he can do about it. The thing he will never realize is that it is all his own doing.

He is his own worst enemy, but he will rage at and blame everyone around him for what is going wrong in his life. Can you imagine what it would be like to live in his skin? He must be the most miserably unhappy, rage-filled person on the face of the earth! I wouldn't trade places with him for all the money in the world.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
28. Well said.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:41 PM
Jul 2020

Very well said, indeed (as usual!).

He laxks the capacity to accept that it's him that people dislike. He will project his anger on anyone and everyone else.

SWBTATTReg

(22,112 posts)
53. Serves the PINO idiot right. Everyone is no longer paying attn to him, ignoring his worthless ...
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 12:24 PM
Jul 2020

and numerous attempts to cry 'WOLF!', he still is pushing therapies for the CV that have been debunked (probably because the scumbag has some ownership of the drug he's pushing all of the time), is scamming campaign funds right and left (we all knew that) and of course all of this is just what we can see.

I would love Biden to push an executive order out immediately once he's in the WH to immediately post a reward of 10% of recovered/or illegally obtained federal funds diverted illegally to rump and/or rump controlled entity (business or person(s)) and charge, prosecute and execute judgment on rump with a special task force especially nominated for this purpose and any republican hindering the effort should be RICO'ed along w/ them too.

I hope he has a rage-induced stroke.

Take care and be safe!

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
2. It is actually a GOOD Executive Order.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 04:48 PM
Jul 2020

That’s part of why the exploitative pharmaceutical companies don’t want to talk about it.

-Laelth

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
5. Maybe, unless you're Canada...
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 05:06 PM
Jul 2020

I don't think they're in any mood to become Amurka's drug warehouse. Secondly, you can't do this by imperial edict of the Grand Cyclops. He's not a king.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
10. He ordered them to come up with a plan. That's all.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 05:19 PM
Jul 2020

In all fairness, he probably lacks the power to do even that.

-Laelth

Dios Mio

(429 posts)
6. It's all about profit and fear of regulation.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 05:09 PM
Jul 2020

If only a handful critical drugs were readily available to everyone (diabetic and anti hypertensives) lives and money would be saved by early treatment. It wouldn’t affect profits much but drug companies are afraid to crack open the door to price controls.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
11. It just goes to show...
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 05:24 PM
Jul 2020

How far in over his head Trump is!! Trump is so incredibly ignorant & grossly incompetent he writes an EO in an effort to force PRIVATE INDUSTRY to lower prices on drugs but he’s been trying to take health insurance away from millions of Americans & refuses to use his powers via the “Defense Production Act” to organize private industry to fight the COVID-19 Pandemic...Because he doesn’t want to interfere with the FREE MARKET!!

...Trump is a FOOL!

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
15. Trump is so ignorant
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 05:58 PM
Jul 2020

he doesn't understand as a Fascist Tyrant, you are only supposed to do things that make corporations MORE profitable............

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
19. Will it stand up in court
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:11 PM
Jul 2020

I doubt it. The minute it is released it will be challenged.

He can have his executive order tomorrow if he told Mitch to have a vote on the text.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
21. No. I very much doubt it.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:15 PM
Jul 2020

Perhaps it would be more accurate to call the Order “well-intentioned,” although I hesitate to ascribe good intentions to Trump.

-Laelth

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
30. That's part of why I'm not sure how to feel about this...
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:53 PM
Jul 2020

I'll admit, it ALSO pisses me off that they just said 'meh.--fuck the gubment, we do what we want'.

No...that's not how this works. At ALL. Yes, trump is an asshole. And yes, he might not get reelected. But that's beside the fact.

Donald Trump, asshole or not, ELECTED or not, is LEGALLY the Head of State of the united states of america and its executive branch, and that means that when he asks you to show up and consider a thing, you fucking well do that.

This same thing was done to obama in spirit for a lot of his presidency, AND to can bet your ass it will be tried with Biden as well. Trump rightly can fuck right off, but as long as he represents WE THE PEOPLE (even if HE doesnt take that seriously most of the time), who the hell are some random-ass drug company exec's to treat US this way?

Maybe this isnt even about trump. Maybe I'm just tired of the complete LACK OF GRATITUDE ,considering what their corporate tax rates have been for the last 40 years or so.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
22. I've got one of those! Can I join in?
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:16 PM
Jul 2020

I'll match 'em, FU for FU.

I just realized it's not quite a matching fund. It's half a matching fund! It's a matching FU!




paleotn

(17,911 posts)
4. And his executive orders are meaningless....
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 05:04 PM
Jul 2020

Once again, DONNIE, it doesn't work that way. You're not a damn king. You're a stupid ass.

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
7. So, Trump's big Exec. order announced late last week on lowering drug prices is a DUD!.............
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 05:10 PM
Jul 2020


A White House meeting with top pharmaceutical executives that President Donald Trump promised for Tuesday is off, five industry sources familiar with discussions told POLITICO. Three said the drug-pricing discussion was canceled because the major drug lobbies, reeling from Friday’s cluster of executive orders on the topic, refused to send any members.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
13. He just wanted a photo op and a commitment...
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 05:46 PM
Jul 2020

...from the drug companies they will work on a solution, for good publicity for his campaign. Like a snake oil salesman. Then drop the issue later, since his base are all marks.

Bottom line, the execs already know he's a dead man walking and have to prepare for a Biden Presidency and possibly a Democratic Senate and House....which will move on them hard. They are circling the wagons and trying to see how much they can hold on to.

RockCreek

(739 posts)
14. Maybe at least part if it was that hey really didn't want to visit the visit the WH COVID den.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 05:55 PM
Jul 2020

But thought that saying that would piss him off more than saying they weren't coming onky for the other reasons they gave.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
20. It's only fair
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:15 PM
Jul 2020

He doesn't let anyone in his administration speak to Congress. So now he can go and have his little hissy fit for being treated the same way.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
23. I'm in no way a fan of "Big Pharma"
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:23 PM
Jul 2020

But, damn. This feels good. If only Republican elected officials had 10% of the spine these guys just exhibited, he would have been out of office within his first year.

James48

(4,435 posts)
24. I saw a drug lobby TV ad today
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:28 PM
Jul 2020

About “Don’t let international countries tell YOU what to pay for medicine”. And then it went on and on about big bad foreigners, drug prices, and reducing research for new drugs.

That must scare the profits off those drug companies so bad they jumped straight to ads- paid for by the National Association of Manufacturers!

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
51. For much of government procurement, companies are legally
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 10:44 AM
Jul 2020

bound to charge government at the lowest price its customers’ pay.

There’s no good reason why this same idea can’t be extended to include drugs for Medicare (and the forthcoming Public Option) recipients.

I do not believe the pharma-industry spin.

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
25. They have dealt with Trump before.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:29 PM
Jul 2020


They have no desire to sit there and listen to his lies and to let him put words in their mouths.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,174 posts)
29. I guess his ass has lost its flavor.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:45 PM
Jul 2020

Like that stick of Juicy Fruit that you keep chewing long after it's neither juicy nor fruity. Eventually one just spits it out.

Or maybe they're just now remembering the old advice that when you kiss Rump's rump, you're also kissing everyone else who's kissed Rump's rump. Something like that.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
31. Art of the deal!
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:55 PM
Jul 2020

It's the negotiating strategy where the other side just pretends you don't exist. Stable genius!

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
33. He thinks he rules the world by decree.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 07:15 PM
Jul 2020

What a sorry ass loser!

Here is my cheer for the sorry loser.



tRump sounds like shit, because he is shit.

Captain Zero

(6,801 posts)
35. The normal way to do this is
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 07:26 PM
Jul 2020

Have both house of Congress pass a bill and he signs it, but the House would pass one, and Trump's buddy Mitch would block it in the Senate.

So the drunk CEOs probably figured they don't have to sign on to an EO with him.

I bet this was a big show to dilute Barrs testimony in Congress tomorrow. Now Bill the Gestapo Man will be on full display.

Demovictory9

(32,448 posts)
38. a humiliated Trump is dangerous. Expect exec order making aspirin illegal or some such nonsense
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 08:31 PM
Jul 2020

he can't let a snub go unanswered.

Chemisse

(30,809 posts)
42. It does sound like it, doesn't it? Must be some kind of mistake.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 11:59 PM
Jul 2020

He probably misread a memo. Also, ruling by royal command is not the way to go about it.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
40. One of the largest financial sector employers has refused an invite as well.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 08:43 PM
Jul 2020

A relative works for them. They have successfully shifted about 95% of their US (and worldwide) employees to work from home. Even the phone groups. The company was recently invited to provide a representative to weigh in for the White House Coronavirus team and they declined. Not only that, but also sent a company wide email that they did so, explaining why.

The primary reasons they stated were they were less affected as a company by stay at home orders. Business is actually up, and they are in hiring mode. With a work from home workforce, stay at home orders are a non issue. More than half the email dealt with corporate values of diversity and respect. While not specifically stated, it was pretty clear they have chosen to shun DJT's entire Admin.

BComplex

(8,036 posts)
43. You mean he was actually going to make companies lower their exorbitant drug prices and they
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 12:47 AM
Jul 2020

didn't like it?

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
55. I know. I don't know why people are cheering the drug companies here
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 02:56 PM
Jul 2020

We can debate whether Trump's executive order was the best way to do it, but Democrats have been trying to get lower drug prices and reimportation from Canada for at least two decades. As much as I can't stand Trump, he's actually on the right side of this one.

pecosbob

(7,536 posts)
44. This why Dems will use both houses of Congress to ream Big Pharma a new a**hole
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 12:54 AM
Jul 2020

Just as we will do when we re-write the tax code to tax capital gains as personal income and outlaw corporate spending in political campaigns.

Coventina

(27,101 posts)
45. I'm sure "Pharma Bro" is available for a meeting.
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 12:54 AM
Jul 2020

Actually, maybe the two of them will end up being cellmates!!!

captain queeg

(10,170 posts)
46. Yep. Also, not sure he'd ever even contacted them to come for a meeting
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:03 AM
Jul 2020

He’s famous for announcing some meeting that hadn’t even set up yet. This one going to make him sad.

Larissa

(790 posts)
47. Has it ever occurred to Trump
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:12 AM
Jul 2020

. . . that after he leaves the White House for the last time, he'll still have to live in this world somehow. Does he not realize that in his quest to destroy others he has become a self-made pariah?

February, 2017: President Obama spontaneously applauded in NYC

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
49. Well, he still has Cult45 madly devoted to him.
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 07:14 AM
Jul 2020

They'll buy whatever shitty products he sells and consume whatever BS his his media org spews.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
50. This whole thing just plays into the hands of the conspiracy theorists bitch about Covid19
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 10:24 AM
Jul 2020

being a fake diseases made up by Bill Gates, Fauci, fake reporting of deaths, and the drug companies. They should have met with him and asked him to quit lying. That would have been more productive.

Nitram

(22,791 posts)
52. More's the pity. It sounds like Trump was trying to force them to lower drug prices to bring them
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 12:09 PM
Jul 2020

more in line with the lower prices they charge overseas customers. Trump is now so weak that he can't even get good policy implemented.

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