Tlaib still refusing to endorse Joe Biden

[tritsofme]

...Pressed further in the interview about why it’s difficult for her to endorse Biden in the coming race, Tlaib said, “because I don't want to get into a debate with my residents.”

“Residents come up to me and say, ‘Rashida, I don't know. I hear Joe Biden this, Joe Biden that.’ I say, ‘Listen, do we need another four years of Trump? No. Then what I need you to do is go out there and focus on that,’” she said.

“If the ultimate goal is to get rid of Donald Trump, that doesn't have to involve me actually endorsing Biden,” Tlaib continued. “My constituents don't need to be bogged down in, ‘Is he the best candidate?’ That's not what you have to convince my residents. They need to come out in droves and be inspired by something. And that is going to be a vote against Donald Trump.”

The comments by Tlaib come as the Michigan Democrat gears up for a competitive primary early next month, in which she faces a challenge from Detroit City Council President and former Rep. Brenda Jones, who has endorsed Biden for president.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/509274-tlaib-opens-up-about-why-she-hasnt-endorsed-biden-yet

Best of luck to Brenda Jones, a real Democrat with no qualms about enthusiastically endorsing the Democratic nominee for president, Joe Biden!

[Iliyah]

1. Tlaib - it's her chocie, it is a free country at this point . .

So far as to her constituents, I think the decision has already been made.

[enough]

14. Thanks. This idea that we are also supposed to become a cult just drives me crazy.

Any real politics is made up of adult citizens acting as they see best. Not a club with loyalty oaths.

[BannonsLiver]

25. Unity and supporting the party's nominee doesn't mean we're a cult.

Tap the brakes on that twaddle.

[obamanut2012]

31. A "cult" for supporting the Dem nom against TRUMP?!

[Trumpocalypse]

36. Are you saying that anyone who supports Biden is part of a cult?

Do you support Biden?

[Cha]

43. There's Joe Biden and there's the Treasonous Hell Monster running

for President.

Democracy is Not a DAMN "Cult".

[Demsrule86]

55. Support Democrats.

[wellst0nev0ter]

56. So, Support Tlaib?

[Demsrule86]

61. Of course in an election I would vote for her...she is a Democrat. But in a primary, I would not

support a candidate who did not support our nominee for president.

[rusty fender]

74. This!

Does it matter why people pull the lever for Biden? It doesn’t matter why we vote for him, just that we vote for him. Sheesh.

[Demsrule86]

78. She will not endorse him nor have I heard her say she will vote for him...could be I missed it...

She can do as she pleases...but I don't want anyone who doesn't endorse our nominee in a position of leadership...loyalty counts. While she may do as she pleases...free country that doesn't mean there are no consequences.

[rusty fender]

80. She's focusing on turnout

And, as she points out, high turnout will defeat Trumpass. That’s all that matters.

[Cha]

15. It's a "free country" so far.. Tlaib should Know that the Treasonous ASSFACE

Putin's Puppet, wants to make it NOT a "free Country".

All hands on Deck.. no time for those only thinking about themselves.

[TCJ70]

33. Wait, did she endorse Trump?

No? Then who cares. No one is required to endorse anyone else.

[Cha]

44. Did I say Tlaib "endorsed" trump? NO.. I said we have no

time for those only thinking of themselves and not The Planet, our County or her People.. or the Supreme Court.

[Trumpocalypse]

35. Not really

She is not a private citizen. She is a Democratic party elected official, she therefore has an obligation to support all Democratic party candidates.

[question everything]

41. The Supreme Court! The Supreme Court!

But will she vote for him? Will her supporters?

Why can't the Democratic party start and end each ad with these words?

All the ones who stayed home in 2016, and who intend to to the same because their candidate - ahem - is not the nominee - are they aware of the damage that the have caused to the judiciary system? That Trump appointed and the turtle confirmed 200!! judges?

[Hortensis]

45. Yes, more constituents indulged the nihilistic mood of

the times and it seems she reflects them, they chose what resonated. Some may be very unhappy with what's come to them since, but of course those to whom kicking down the structure of their lives appeals far more than protecting it won't recognize, much less take the right lessons from, the consequences of their actions.

"Our children and their children will ask us, ‘What did you do? What did you say?' For some, he concluded, this vote may be hard. But we have a mission and a mandate to be on the right side of history." ~ Congressman Lewis

Rep. Tlaib came to where wise John Lewis worked and might have learned who and what he and many other good people were. But she apparently does not see what so many do, and the earnest messages of "the conscience of Congress" of how to be on the right side of history are rejected.

Well, irritating, but she's regrettably a noisy null set and will remain so. Her hostile messages seized on and amplified by our opponents, but she has zero influence in congress. Her constituents' problem.

[Takket]

2. hopefully she's defeated in the primary...

"just vote against drumpf" plays right into the MAGA tagline that Biden offers nothing to make him worth voting for. its a form of voter suppression that will make people stay home if they think Biden isn't worth it.

[grantcart]

8. +1

[Demsrule86]

20. I hope she loses the primary too....Biden is the only one who can stop Trump. She is

showing poor judgement.

[wellst0nev0ter]

57. So much for supporting Dems.

[MrsCoffee]

67. Supporting one Dem over another is supporting Dems. Unlike not endorsing our presidential nominee.

[wellst0nev0ter]

83. Thanks for reminding me of this thread

Now I have a record of all those who wanted Tlaib to fall.

[MrsCoffee]

84. Are we keeping score?

Your list might mean something if someone supported a Republican over her. Some people can move on after primaries.

Others, not so much....

[we can do it]

3. Who cares.

[Budi]

4. Brenda Jones, a real Democrat with no qualms about enthusiastically endorsing Democrat Joe Biden

"Best of luck to Brenda Jones, a real Democrat with no qualms about enthusiastically endorsing the Democratic nominee for president, Joe Biden!"

I am proudly endorsing Brenda Jones who proudly endorses Joe Biden.. 💙👍

#MaturityMatters

[Thekaspervote]

17. +1,000!!

[Demsrule86]

21. +1000

[ornotna]

29. She's pretty far behind in polling

Tlaib leads Jones 52-24 in the latest poll conducted by Target-Insyght

https://jewishinsider.com/2020/07/ahead-of-august-4-primary-new-poll-shows-rashida-tlaib-with-large-lead-over-challenger-brenda-jones/

[dem4decades]

5. I never had anything against Tlaib, till now, Vote Jones I'd say.

[mcar]

6. What a disappointment she has been

[PatSeg]

22. Yeah

I've had about enough of her. Whenever she comes on television, I hit the fast-forward button. Much of the "squad" has really turned me off. Perhaps they can bring about social change another way, as some of them aren't very good at politics and they give republicans far too much ammunition to use against Democrats. I'm not sure they really know how government works.

[JonLP24]

37. The right actually embarrass themselves when they go after the squad

Just because they are not Third Way Democrats doesn't mean they don't know politics.

[George II]

50. What does "Third Way" have to do with this? Is there a "Third Way Democrat" running for President?

[StarfishSaver]

7. Wow

[oasis]

9. No guessing game when it comes to our need to primary fence sitters. nt

[secondwind]

10. She doesn't appear to be a team player. We can do better than this.

[Bleacher Creature]

11. So she's cool with Trump getting a second term?

That district can do better - much better.

[Autumn]

12. She's encouraging her constituents to get out and vote for Joe to get Trump out of office.

“One thing that I know is I'm going to be really focused on turnout in the fall. When I focus on turnout, we will deliver Michigan to Joe Biden.” “Trump only won Michigan by 10,000 votes. When I turn out my folks and my district, we'll be able to take back the state. When you focus primarily on getting people out to vote in a district like mine, [Biden] wins,” she continued.

I don't see a problem with her not endorsing him.

[BannonsLiver]

24. What a surprise.

[Autumn]

26. As long as she's encouraging her constituents to vote for Joe that's all that matters. She's not the

only Democrat who hasn't endorsed Joe.

[rogue emissary]

28. It's her job to debate and even advocate for the democratic nominee.

Q: Then why is difficult for you to just say "I endorse Joe Biden for president?"

Tlaib: Because I don't want to get into a debate with my residents. Residents come up to me and say, "Rashida, I don't know. I hear Joe Biden this, Joe Biden that." I say, "Listen, do we need another four years of Trump? No. Then what I need you to do is go out there and focus on that." If the ultimate goal is to get rid of Donald Trump, that doesn't have to involve me actually endorsing Biden. My constituents don't need to be bogged down in, "Is he the best candidate?" That's not what you have to convince my residents. They need to come out in droves and be inspired by something. And that is going to be a vote against Donald Trump.

Would you be happy with a congressperson that supported Hillary say she wouldn't endorse Sanders if he were the nominee? I'm no fan of Sanders, but if he were the nominee, I wouldn't have accepted this doublespeak from a Clinton supporter.

[MrsCoffee]

68. Lol, of course you don't.

[ProfessorGAC]

69. You Don't?!?!?

If the goal is to launch PINO, and her role is to get people out to vote, it seems most expeditious to endorse Biden.
Failure to publicly endorse carries the risk of raising doubt in her constituents' minds.
It's politically foolish.
If it then discourages turnout, it defeats her stated goal. Counterproductive action!
What part of taking unnecessary political risk do you not see as a problem?

[Autumn]

70. What risk? Obviously her constituents didn't have a problem with it either.

Seeing as how she easily won her reelection last night. Some sad people this morning. I guess they didn't have the problem Jones had with her calling Trump Trump a "m-----f-----."

Which part of getting out to vote for Biden to get rid of Trump is confusing?

"I support Vice President Biden defeating Donald Trump in November, and I am doing to do everything I can do ensure that Biden wins in Michigan."

...Pressed further in the interview about why it’s difficult for her to endorse Biden in the coming race, Tlaib said, “because I don't want to get into a debate with my residents.”

“Residents come up to me and say, ‘Rashida, I don't know. I hear Joe Biden this, Joe Biden that.’ I say, ‘Listen, do we need another four years of Trump? No. Then what I need you to do is go out there and focus on that,’” she said.

“If the ultimate goal is to get rid of Donald Trump, that doesn't have to involve me actually endorsing Biden,” Tlaib continued. “My constituents don't need to be bogged down in, ‘Is he the best candidate?’ That's not what you have to convince my residents. They need to come out in droves and be inspired by something. And that is going to be a vote against Donald Trump .


Whatever happened to "endorsements don't matter"? That was the thing for months.

[ProfessorGAC]

76. Show Me Where I Said...

...endorsements don't matter.
And all your quotes don't resolve the risk.
You say "what risk"
I ask "How can you be missing it?"

[Autumn]

81. Show me where I said that you said endorsements don't matter. Because I didn't.

But that was brought up a lot during the last primary. She won. Despite people hoping she would not. If an elected politician talks to her constituents telling them to vote for Biden to get rid of Trump is a risk, then we are in deep shit.

[ProfessorGAC]

82. Look Up *Inference* & *Implication*

Your reply was to me, not all of DU.
And, given you've resorted to "I know you are, but what am I?", I'm out!

[SpaceNeedle]

13. Tlaib has to go ... booing Hillary and not endorsing Biden

means she is not a real Democrat nor a team player.

Brenda Jones is BOTH and will make an excellent addition to the house.

[Thekaspervote]

19. Oh.. that stunt booing HRC.. I wanted to reach thru the screen and slap her

[wellst0nev0ter]

58. It was during the primary, and Hillary threw shade on Bernie

the candidate Tlaib supported. Tlaib is allowed to clap back.

[Cha]

16. Brenda Jones has a brilliant Website! Best Of Luck, Brenda Jones!

The comments by Tlaib come as the Michigan Democrat gears up for a competitive primary early next month, in which she faces a challenge from Detroit City Council President and former Rep. Brenda Jones, who has endorsed Biden for president.

https://brendajonesforcongress.com/

[DesertRat]

47. Yes, she does!

I follow her on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/VoteBrendaJones

[Cha]

51. COOL! I just followed her.. now she

has 3,154!

Mahalo, DesertRat!

[DesertRat]

52. Yea!

[wellst0nev0ter]

59. One week to primary, and THAT'S her follower count?

[BannonsLiver]

23. Getting into Tulsi territory.

[DrToast]

39. No way. Tulsi endorsed Biden

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/tulsi-gabbard-ends-presidential-run-endorses-biden-n1163851

[JonLP24]

40. Even with Sanders still in the race

She endorsed Biden before Warren did.

[BannonsLiver]

42. Yes, I meant the version of Tulsi when Obama was President

The one who slurred him at every turn.

[JI7]

27. Actually, This would probably help Biden in the GE (actually the primary also)

[betsuni]

30. Booing Hillary Clinton.

WHY? She says constituents come up to her and say "I hear Biden this, Joe Biden that." Same stupid conspiracy theories about Biden that people believed about Hillary. Hence the booing.

[Baltimike]

32. I hope she loses her primary. asswipe nt

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

34. Tlaib got an endorsement from Detroit Free Press, FWIW

https://www.freep.com/story/opinion/editorials/2020/07/26/endorsement-13-th-district-rashida-tlaib/5460661002/

[ismnotwasm]

38. Her Hillary Clinton stunt really bothered me

It was shitty. Like high school bully shitty.

[wellst0nev0ter]

60. "Nobody likes him"

That's Hillary on Bernie Sanders, who Tlaib supported. Tlaib merely clapped back.

[Percuv]

46. Trump vs.Biden. Tlaib undecided.

No comments.

[gopiscrap]

53. welcome to DU

[marble falls]

48. So I'm guessing she wasn't vetted into the "A" list for VP.

[George II]

49. How much time and effort does it take to endorse Biden?

[GeorgiaPeanut]

54. Go Brenda Jones

send Rashida home. She boo'ed Hillary Clinton FFS.

[Kaleva]

62. "House Speaker Pelosi endorses Tlaib's re-election over Jones"

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/07/29/house-speaker-pelosi-endorses-tlaib-re-election-over-jones/5535939002/

I trust Nancy's judgement.

[tritsofme]

63. Meh, I respect her decision to give a perfunctory endorsement to an

incumbent member of her caucus. It would have been extraordinary if she didn’t offer an endorsement.

[Kaleva]

64. I believe Nancy knows what a real Democrat is better then anyone here.

It really doesn't matter to me who wins as I believe the citizens of the district will vote for who they think will do the better job in representing them but if Nancy doesn't have an issue with Talib, then I certainly don't. I also think that Biden isn't bothered in the least but not having a direct endorsement from Talib because she has said earlier that she's working hard to deliver the state for Biden.

[Takket]

65. Primary early results

Tlaib is up 66% to 34% with just 16% of precincts reporting as of this morning. I’ll try to update as more results come in.

[aikoaiko]

66. Wow! That's starting off as a trouncing.

Looking forward to seeing more precinct results.

[Celerity]

71. Tlaib won in a landslide nt

Link to tweet

[aikoaiko]

75. Those are drop the effing mic numbers.

[Takket]

72. Tlaib wins primary by 2:1 margin

Voters have spoken and now is the time to support her In her fight to hold onto this important seat!

[MrsCoffee]

73. And voters have spoken about Joe Biden.

Now is the time to support him in his fight for our entire country.

It works BOTH ways.

[jalan48]

77. Looks like it wasn't a big issue for the voters in her district. nt

[Peacetrain]

79. We'll make Lemonade from that bag of lemons just dropped..

Go go go Joe!!!

[Sugarcoated]

85. Probably a net plus for Joe