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Residents come up to me and say, Rashida, I don't know. I hear Joe Biden this, Joe Biden that. I say, Listen, do we need another four years of Trump? No. Then what I need you to do is go out there and focus on that, she said.
If the ultimate goal is to get rid of Donald Trump, that doesn't have to involve me actually endorsing Biden, Tlaib continued. My constituents don't need to be bogged down in, Is he the best candidate? That's not what you have to convince my residents. They need to come out in droves and be inspired by something. And that is going to be a vote against Donald Trump.
The comments by Tlaib come as the Michigan Democrat gears up for a competitive primary early next month, in which she faces a challenge from Detroit City Council President and former Rep. Brenda Jones, who has endorsed Biden for president.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/509274-tlaib-opens-up-about-why-she-hasnt-endorsed-biden-yet
Best of luck to Brenda Jones, a real Democrat with no qualms about enthusiastically endorsing the Democratic nominee for president, Joe Biden!
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)So far as to her constituents, I think the decision has already been made.
enough
(13,254 posts)Any real politics is made up of adult citizens acting as they see best. Not a club with loyalty oaths.
BannonsLiver
(16,288 posts)Tap the brakes on that twaddle.
obamanut2012
(26,041 posts)Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)Do you support Biden?
Cha
(296,775 posts)for President.
Democracy is Not a DAMN "Cult".
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)support a candidate who did not support our nominee for president.
Does it matter why people pull the lever for Biden? It doesnt matter why we vote for him, just that we vote for him. Sheesh.
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)She can do as she pleases...but I don't want anyone who doesn't endorse our nominee in a position of leadership...loyalty counts. While she may do as she pleases...free country that doesn't mean there are no consequences.
rusty fender
(3,428 posts)And, as she points out, high turnout will defeat Trumpass. Thats all that matters.
Cha
(296,775 posts)Putin's Puppet, wants to make it NOT a "free Country".
All hands on Deck.. no time for those only thinking about themselves.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)No? Then who cares. No one is required to endorse anyone else.
Cha
(296,775 posts)time for those only thinking of themselves and not The Planet, our County or her People.. or the Supreme Court.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)She is not a private citizen. She is a Democratic party elected official, she therefore has an obligation to support all Democratic party candidates.
question everything
(47,425 posts)But will she vote for him? Will her supporters?
Why can't the Democratic party start and end each ad with these words?
All the ones who stayed home in 2016, and who intend to to the same because their candidate - ahem - is not the nominee - are they aware of the damage that the have caused to the judiciary system? That Trump appointed and the turtle confirmed 200!! judges?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)the times and it seems she reflects them, they chose what resonated. Some may be very unhappy with what's come to them since, but of course those to whom kicking down the structure of their lives appeals far more than protecting it won't recognize, much less take the right lessons from, the consequences of their actions.
Rep. Tlaib came to where wise John Lewis worked and might have learned who and what he and many other good people were. But she apparently does not see what so many do, and the earnest messages of "the conscience of Congress" of how to be on the right side of history are rejected.
Well, irritating, but she's regrettably a noisy null set and will remain so. Her hostile messages seized on and amplified by our opponents, but she has zero influence in congress. Her constituents' problem.
Takket
(21,526 posts)"just vote against drumpf" plays right into the MAGA tagline that Biden offers nothing to make him worth voting for. its a form of voter suppression that will make people stay home if they think Biden isn't worth it.
Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)showing poor judgement.
wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)Now I have a record of all those who wanted Tlaib to fall.
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)Your list might mean something if someone supported a Republican over her. Some people can move on after primaries.
Others, not so much....
we can do it
(12,166 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)"Best of luck to Brenda Jones, a real Democrat with no qualms about enthusiastically endorsing the Democratic nominee for president, Joe Biden!"
I am proudly endorsing Brenda Jones who proudly endorses Joe Biden.. 💙👍
#MaturityMatters
Thekaspervote
(32,691 posts)ornotna
(10,793 posts)https://jewishinsider.com/2020/07/ahead-of-august-4-primary-new-poll-shows-rashida-tlaib-with-large-lead-over-challenger-brenda-jones/
dem4decades
(11,269 posts)mcar
(42,278 posts)Response to mcar (Reply #6)
Thekaspervote This message was self-deleted by its author.
PatSeg
(47,239 posts)I've had about enough of her. Whenever she comes on television, I hit the fast-forward button. Much of the "squad" has really turned me off. Perhaps they can bring about social change another way, as some of them aren't very good at politics and they give republicans far too much ammunition to use against Democrats. I'm not sure they really know how government works.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Just because they are not Third Way Democrats doesn't mean they don't know politics.
George II
(67,782 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)oasis
(49,321 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)Bleacher Creature
(11,250 posts)That district can do better - much better.
Autumn
(44,972 posts)I don't see a problem with her not endorsing him.
BannonsLiver
(16,288 posts)Autumn
(44,972 posts)only Democrat who hasn't endorsed Joe.
rogue emissary
(3,147 posts)Tlaib: Because I don't want to get into a debate with my residents. Residents come up to me and say, "Rashida, I don't know. I hear Joe Biden this, Joe Biden that." I say, "Listen, do we need another four years of Trump? No. Then what I need you to do is go out there and focus on that." If the ultimate goal is to get rid of Donald Trump, that doesn't have to involve me actually endorsing Biden. My constituents don't need to be bogged down in, "Is he the best candidate?" That's not what you have to convince my residents. They need to come out in droves and be inspired by something. And that is going to be a vote against Donald Trump.
Would you be happy with a congressperson that supported Hillary say she wouldn't endorse Sanders if he were the nominee? I'm no fan of Sanders, but if he were the nominee, I wouldn't have accepted this doublespeak from a Clinton supporter.
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,827 posts)If the goal is to launch PINO, and her role is to get people out to vote, it seems most expeditious to endorse Biden.
Failure to publicly endorse carries the risk of raising doubt in her constituents' minds.
It's politically foolish.
If it then discourages turnout, it defeats her stated goal. Counterproductive action!
What part of taking unnecessary political risk do you not see as a problem?
Autumn
(44,972 posts)Seeing as how she easily won her reelection last night. Some sad people this morning. I guess they didn't have the problem Jones had with her calling Trump Trump a "m-----f-----."
Which part of getting out to vote for Biden to get rid of Trump is confusing?
"I support Vice President Biden defeating Donald Trump in November, and I am doing to do everything I can do ensure that Biden wins in Michigan."
...Pressed further in the interview about why its difficult for her to endorse Biden in the coming race, Tlaib said, because I don't want to get into a debate with my residents.
Residents come up to me and say, Rashida, I don't know. I hear Joe Biden this, Joe Biden that. I say, Listen, do we need another four years of Trump? No. Then what I need you to do is go out there and focus on that, she said.
If the ultimate goal is to get rid of Donald Trump, that doesn't have to involve me actually endorsing Biden, Tlaib continued. My constituents don't need to be bogged down in, Is he the best candidate? That's not what you have to convince my residents. They need to come out in droves and be inspired by something. And that is going to be a vote against Donald Trump .
Whatever happened to "endorsements don't matter"? That was the thing for months.
ProfessorGAC
(64,827 posts)...endorsements don't matter.
And all your quotes don't resolve the risk.
You say "what risk"
I ask "How can you be missing it?"
Autumn
(44,972 posts)But that was brought up a lot during the last primary. She won. Despite people hoping she would not. If an elected politician talks to her constituents telling them to vote for Biden to get rid of Trump is a risk, then we are in deep shit.
ProfessorGAC
(64,827 posts)Your reply was to me, not all of DU.
And, given you've resorted to "I know you are, but what am I?", I'm out!
SpaceNeedle
(191 posts)means she is not a real Democrat nor a team player.
Brenda Jones is BOTH and will make an excellent addition to the house.
Thekaspervote
(32,691 posts)wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)the candidate Tlaib supported. Tlaib is allowed to clap back.
Cha
(296,775 posts)https://brendajonesforcongress.com/
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)I follow her on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/VoteBrendaJones
Cha
(296,775 posts)has 3,154!
Mahalo, DesertRat!
wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,288 posts)DrToast
(6,414 posts)JonLP24
(29,322 posts)She endorsed Biden before Warren did.
BannonsLiver
(16,288 posts)The one who slurred him at every turn.
JI7
(89,239 posts)betsuni
(25,371 posts)WHY? She says constituents come up to her and say "I hear Biden this, Joe Biden that." Same stupid conspiracy theories about Biden that people believed about Hillary. Hence the booing.
Baltimike
(4,137 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,315 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,956 posts)It was shitty. Like high school bully shitty.
wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)That's Hillary on Bernie Sanders, who Tlaib supported. Tlaib merely clapped back.
Percuv
(1 post)No comments.
gopiscrap
(23,725 posts)marble falls
(56,996 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)GeorgiaPeanut
(360 posts)send Rashida home. She boo'ed Hillary Clinton FFS.
Kaleva
(36,240 posts)tritsofme
(17,367 posts)incumbent member of her caucus. It would have been extraordinary if she didnt offer an endorsement.
Kaleva
(36,240 posts)It really doesn't matter to me who wins as I believe the citizens of the district will vote for who they think will do the better job in representing them but if Nancy doesn't have an issue with Talib, then I certainly don't. I also think that Biden isn't bothered in the least but not having a direct endorsement from Talib because she has said earlier that she's working hard to deliver the state for Biden.
Takket
(21,526 posts)Tlaib is up 66% to 34% with just 16% of precincts reporting as of this morning. Ill try to update as more results come in.
aikoaiko
(34,161 posts)Looking forward to seeing more precinct results.
Celerity
(43,069 posts)aikoaiko
(34,161 posts)Takket
(21,526 posts)Voters have spoken and now is the time to support her In her fight to hold onto this important seat!
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)Now is the time to support him in his fight for our entire country.
It works BOTH ways.