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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums538 clip: Confidence Interval: Democrats Could Win 60 Seats In The Senate
https://fivethirtyeight.com/videos/confidence-interval-democrats-could-win-60-seats-in-the-senate/A Dem-controlled filibuster-proof Senate - anyone think that's possible?
I'd be happy with us just taking back control of the Senate but one could dream.
SunSeeker
(51,554 posts)onetexan
(13,041 posts)Can't wait to see Moscow Mitch's face on 11/4 knowing he just lost control of the Senate
lastlib
(23,226 posts)That would make it oh, so much sweeter!
onetexan
(13,041 posts)Amy McGrath (KY) & MJ Hegar (TX) are the 2 senate seats i would get most satisfaction from if these 2 amazing lady vets flip them. MJ would be my Senator and she's from Round Rock near me. She's within single digits striking distance now but hopefully w/ this Blue Tsunami both these ladies will benefit from that & win their seats.
pecosbob
(7,538 posts)To build a super majority we would likely need two new states with four more blue Senators and a strong mid-term re-affirmation.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)AL & KY look like bridge too far.
The filibuster (which was originally 66) should be eliminated because the Republicans abused it. It was used only once in the first 100 years.
The Senate already has a super majority without the filibuster; the 20 least populated states (mostly red) have a combined population less than CA but have 40 Senate votes but only 18% of the population.
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)Did you mean to put another state?
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)the seat to replace David Perdue, who is up for re-election. Perdue is opposed by Jon Ossoff. Current polling has Ossoff about even.
@ossoff on Twitter
Then, there is the special election with the Insider Trading Kelly Loeffler running to keep the seat she was appointed to when Johnny Isakson retired due to cancer. Loeffler is opposed by Doug Collins in her own party and by Rev. Raphael Warnock for the Democrats. That election is also November 3rd, but if nobody gets 50%, then the runoff will be on January 3rd. RW extremist loon Collins is leading RW extremist Loeffler on the Republican side, so I'm hoping Warnock can unify Democrats (A few others are running on the Dem side) and get 50% in November while Loeffler & Collins split the Republican vote.
@ReverendWarnock on Twitter
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Almost always they go together to the same party.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Federal races are decided on ideology, far beyond governorships which are more prone to flip parties. We are chasing too many senate seats in states with 40+% conservatives. I realize nobody appreciates it but the polling is not as reliable during that scenario. The fundamentals tend to dictate.
Maybe we can pull out one or two of those. We are not going to sweep the board against a lineup of states with 40-45% conservatives. I remember posting the same thing when I joined this site in 2002. There was a thread declaring, "My Dream Scenario in the Senate." The guy had us winning every race in red states, despite huge stacks of conservatives lined up against us, and a national security theme sweeping the nation after 9/11. I remember I got chastised as misguided in that thread for listing the percentage of conservatives in each state. But it held up, and it holds up 18 years later, and it will hold up decade after decade.
I'm still ticked at Bill Nelson for being so lazy and seemingly unconcerned during 2018. That was basically a giveaway. Gillum took both races lower than they should have been but if Nelson had gotten going earlier and devoted any emphasis to the Hispanic vote he probably could have squeaked out a razor tight win, leaving us one seat closer.
pecosbob
(7,538 posts)to overcome the entrenched imbalance in many red states. The packed courts will be a boat anchor around our necks for decades.
onetexan
(13,041 posts)We can also expand SCOTUS. Hey they play dirty; we can too. The SCOTUS # isn't set in stone. it is possible to add more justices and at least balance it out.
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)60 would be a 2016 45 style inside straight win, but I think if the election were today we would have a mildly comfortable margin in the senate, maybe 53/54 to 47/46. If things keep trending how they are, it could get to 55/45 or 56/44.
Cha
(297,220 posts)Aloha Cha Dems need to turn out enmasse
altogether it can be done
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)and all that happened was that the Blue Dogs made common cause with Republicans to block a public option, restrict the scope of the stimulus, etc., etc.
onetexan
(13,041 posts)There's way too much damage to repair, and the Rethug Senators have contributed to that.
dsc
(52,161 posts)The stimulus was passed before Franken was seated and before specter changed parties. We hid 60 seats for less than half a year
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Those numbers could be 8-10. Trump and republicans devastating Americans with their pathetic stimulus bill , and the depression setting in. many will have seen enough of trump and the GOP in office, and oust them. They're tuning states blue with what they're doing now to hurt us and the economy, and all the corruption going on.
onetexan
(13,041 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)no doubt there is going to be a landslide, just like 2018. The question is how great of one. Anger FUELS voters and GOP was successful for years in winning elections as their voters were spurred on by anger BUT now the shoe is on the other foot. "WE" outnumber republicans and historically too many democrats sit elections out. This has indeed changed.
The ONLY tactic the GOP has going is out right voter suppression and we KNOW that is coming and we KNOW what needs to be done to neutralize it
onetexan
(13,041 posts)Takket
(21,566 posts)To me, specifically, GA. no way in hell are we winning a senate seat there while Kemp is governor. Hell Rig it.
Happy Hoosier
(7,308 posts)COULD it happen? Yes. And I would be popping more than few corks.
But it's unlikely. I think we have an excellent chance of securing a 5+ seat majority.
JCMach1
(27,558 posts)Permanently
onetexan
(13,041 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,654 posts)as the video said.
However, 4-6 seats flipped seems well within the realm of possibility. Kill the fillibuster and that would be meaningful. There are still a couple of things that require a super majority, as listed in the Constitution. Other than that, fuck minority rule.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)and Mitch gone too would be a dream come true.
coti
(4,612 posts)We'll be lucky to take the Senate back at all.