** Today's Hearing - Barr before House Judiciary Thread 1 **

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Thread number two is up, here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213819350

[backtoblue]

1. Nadler giving opening statement

He sounds a bit out of breath.

[luvs2sing]

3. After the morning he has had..

I’m sure his adrenaline is still kicking.

[backtoblue]

8. Hell, Im short of breath too!

I dont know if I can make it through the gaslighting by gymmie and gogurt....

[luvs2sing]

14. Huff..puff..

[FarPoint]

4. Well....Hhmmmm

He , Barr did show up.... can't imagine what obstruction tactics he will utter...

[riversedge]

9. William Barr has a lot to explain about actions on Michael Cohen Opinion by Jennifer Rodgers Updated

William Barr has a lot to explain about actions on Michael Cohen
Opinion by Jennifer Rodgers
Updated 11:06 PM EDT, Fri July 24, 2020

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/07/24/opinions/michael-cohen-trump-book-doj-rodgers/index.html

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[riversedge]

2. Barr's opening testimony today is saturated with evasion and dishonesty. It unwittingly reveals Trum

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@ThePlumLineGS
William Barr's opening testimony today is saturated with evasion and dishonesty. It unwittingly reveals Trump's vision of "law and order": The law is there to protect Trump's corruption and manufacture authoritarian agitprop for his reelection. New piece:

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[riversedge]

5. Meanwhile #CSPAN coverage of Park Police clearing of Lafayette Park interesting until #BarrHearing s

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[crickets]

16. Cannot hit mute fast enough when Jordan starts to speak.

Also, I am so tired of the Repub persecution complex. It's the only tactic they know.

eep- sorry, meant to reply to thread. It's going to be one of those days. 🤪

[backtoblue]

6. "You have aided and abetted the worst failings of the president "

[nolabear]

7. It's FABULOUS hearing Nadler call out this sob to his face.

GET him, Mr. Nadler!

[Ninga]

10. Nadler not fooling around. Strongly and truthfully worded.

[Mike 03]

11. Nadler is sounding particularly strong and strident this morning! nt

[Tommy_Carcetti]

12. Nadler's going after Barr like he's Frank Costanza on Festivus. nt

[nolabear]

13. Feats of strength to follow!

[chriscan64]

42. Every other speaker engages in the airing of the grievences.

Serenity now!

[backtoblue]

15. Gymmie : "Spies"

Earplug time

[blogslut]

17. Ugh, jacketless Gym, the yelling man

Spying! They all spied on our precious president!

[crickets]

19. Quick! Toss the microwave out the window! eta

Jordan is gish galloping the lies. I'd love to see some concrete proof for all this malarky and hearsay.

[meow2u3]

18. Gym Jordan is repeating the false spying accusation in his opening statement

It's the same conspiracy theory, a.k.a., pack of lies, that falsely accuses Obama and Biden of spying on Trump's campaign--all at the top of his lungs!

[nolabear]

22. I guess they figure they're going to stir up the base. "Obama-Biden DOJ"

Even threw in Susan Rice.

[Karma13612]

20. Well,

Now that Nadler has given his opening statement, I guess I can go about the rest of my day. Gawd, Gym (shorts no jacket) Jordan. Yelling and going off on his tangents.

Why do I put myself thru this stuff?

But, if I was still working, I would be jealous that I couldn't be home watching.

[spanone]

21. Even barr looks bored with jordan's bullshit

[Mike 03]

24. Hahaha. Good.

Thanks for the report.

[backtoblue]

23. They went after Flynn...cause he would figure out the spying

[blogslut]

25. This video from Gym

Man, it is quite the bit of creative editing.

[backtoblue]

28. Started with a mash-up of journalists

calling it "peaceful protests"

Showing as much violence as possible.

Literally, stoking the divisions
.....

[backtoblue]

26. GOP showing video

[crickets]

27. They can't show enough of the Boogaloo Bois' handiwork, can they?

Showing all of the peaceful daytime protests just doesn't fit the narrative. I hope there's a plan to push back on the optics, because you have to admit this looks really bad.

[mnmoderatedem]

34. not too hard really

it's a conveniently edited video.

Just have them, for instance, show where there was anything like what went on in that video in Lafayette Park.

[blogslut]

29. My goodness this scary GOP video sure does go on

[soothsayer]

30. And on and on

[backtoblue]

31. I need a valium...

Extended noise, chaos, and violence.

Edit to add: American citizens are being demonized right now.

[Satch59]

32. Why can't Nader cut it? I'm sure Gym is over his time??

What POS these republicans are...

[ooky]

33. Looks like Jordan has hijacked the hearing.

[blogslut]

35. Ha!

Nadler stops the video for being overlong lol

[SamKnause]

36. Are they going to turn the sound back up ???

What a fucking shit show by Jordan.

[blogslut]

37. Ooh, Barr is being sworn in

noice

[Brother Buzz]

38. Jeez Louise, Gym Jordan found his calling in life after Congress

Cherry Picking, Baby!

[crickets]

39. It is important to remember that Russia investigation was initiated by Republicans

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213818758

[blogslut]

40. Get John Lewis' name out of your damn mouth

Barr, you smug, criminal bastard

[shockey80]

41. Fuck, they turned the hearing into a campaign rally for Trump.

How long are the Democrats going to sit there and allow this video to go on , all day.

Surprise, Nadler just said Jorden broke House rules by showing that video.

The Democrats have to understand the Republicans will break every rule, every law. You cannot fight these fuckers fairly. The Democrats should have never let that propaganda be shown.

[crickets]

45. Then the video should have been stopped immediately.

I really like Nadler, but he does not push back hard enough on misbehavior like this.

[eleny]

43. Lying right out of the gate

Trump hasn't interfered with Barr's decisions and Barr didn't want the job of AG.

He auditioned for the damned job.

[spanone]

44. Barr's message 'white lives matter'

[blogslut]

46. Ha ha, the sound techs are having a hell of a time

Barr speaks with almost a whisper and they had to turn the levels up but he's creating feedback on the mics

[woodsprite]

47. I hope the Dems have counter video showing the GOP mercenaries activities

and where they have arrests/proof that some of the violence was instigated by the GOP mercs wannabes.

[blogslut]

48. Powerful slingshots

Hey, Bill. Those protesters are responding to you and your secret soldiers.

[backtoblue]

49. Barr reading his entire opening statement aloud

[backtoblue]

50. 5 minute rule. Nadler begins

[blogslut]

51. Nadler ask Barr if he's discussed the re-election campaign with the president

Barr tries to wheedle but ulimately admits that yes, he has

[uponit7771]

56. +1, Barr lies needlessly

[blogslut]

57. Haha Mike Johnston (R) with a softball

Bascially just asked Barr: Why are you so mischaracterized when you are just a patriot trying to do your job?

[lindysalsagal]

52. Sorry, but I've had enough of his smug lies.

Here's hoping Biden will prosecute and this becomes evidence of malicious intent to use the government for political wrangling.

[malaise]

53. Shame on you

Indeed

[backtoblue]

54. Yep

[uponit7771]

55. Notice Barr said "indictment"! Were the accusation was "punished" which can occur without indictment

[crickets]

58. What's this 'Obama sabotaged the trump transition' nonsense?

None of them bothered to show up half the time, and they ignored what advice they were given. It's ridiculous.

[crickets]

59. Zoe Lofgren pointing out that Barr's troops have drawn more protestors rather than

calming anyone down & were deployed without proper coordination with local forces; that the protestors are peaceful, e.g. the Wall of Moms, that tear gas and surveillance is being improperly used.

eta surveillance includes cell phone surveillance [FBI] that does not just pinpoint location but also scoops up conversation and other content without permission.

[blogslut]

60. Zoe Lofgrin with good points about telecommunications surveillance during the protests

Barr responds with weasel words

[crickets]

61. Barr complaining about lasers used to blind troops.

Are commercially available laser pointers even capable of doing this, and if so why are they so commonly available? I read a post on DU last night which was explaining that you'd have to deliberately stare into a common laser pointer for some time to get any sort of damage. Anyone know about this?

[Wednesdays]

73. I know that laser pointers can be a hazard to air traffic

But my understanding is that is because they cause temporary blindness!

[crickets]

83. SA: Can a pocket laser damage the eye?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-a-pocket-laser-damage/

Eye damage from a pocket laser is unlikely, but could be possible under certain conditions. Red laser pointers that are "properly labeled" in the 3-5 mW range have not caused eye damage -- no retinal damage has been reported -- but there are very real concerns. One is pointers not manufactured to federal specifications. There are reports that green lasers, improperly imported to the U.S., far exceed safety limits.

Well, that's not good. The lasers I have seen in vids are green. 😕

In FDA-regulated pointers, the laser power limit is set at one-tenth the actual threshold of damage. If a person sees a bright light, they will automatically blink, on the average in less than 0.2 seconds. This is referred to as the blink reflex, and it is considered when the limit is assigned for how much power will cause an eye injury. By the way, you shouldn't force a stare at a laser, just like you shouldn't stare at the sun or any bright light source.

Possible more potentially damaging -- although not to the eye -- is that a regular pointer laser can overwhelm the eye with light, typically called flash blindness. If a person is walking a rocky path, operating machinery, a vehicle or aircraft, this temporary loss of vision could cause injury or disaster. At night, when the pupil is most open, the effects would bemagnified.

Still unclear from this article whether green lasers can cause permanent blindness. It's hard to believe it would when the simple remedy for a laser pointer is to look away or turn around.

Adding one more link:
https://www.aao.org/eye-health/news/laser-pointer-eye-injury

[blogslut]

62. Interesting slip of the tongue by Barr

In referring to the protestors at the courthouse, he almost calls it "the prison"

[crickets]

63. Jackson Lee asks about systemic racism

and Barr has the nerve to disagree that there is systemic racism in law enforcement. Wow.

[backtoblue]

64. Sheila Jackson Lee up

[uponit7771]

65. This disjointed use of time is so wasteful !!! Just damn, get one person to ask a series and then

... allow time for follow up !

[soothsayer]

66. So he said the stormtroopers are only there cuz the police won't protect the courthouse in Portland

So.... will they leave if the police protect it?

[uponit7771]

68. +1

[SamKnause]

67. What the fuck is up with the sound ???

Is Barr whispering ???

Don't they want us to hear his answers ???

I have the volume maxed out and half the time I can't hear him.

They turned the volume down during the video and it has been fucked up since then.

[blogslut]

69. Sheila Jackson Lee keeps asking Barr why DOJ has yet to address systemic racism

Barr keeps bullshitting

[crickets]

75. I love how she refused to put up with his stammering about nothing.

When he wouldn't give a clear answer, she cut him off and kept right on going to the next question.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

70. Gohmert soiling the carpet right now

[Gidney N Cloyd]

71. Oh gawd, Gohmert. nt

[blogslut]

72. Barr blames protest violence on "instigators"

Then stop shipping them to those protests, Bill.

[blogslut]

74. Gohmert gets Barr to shittalk about form AG Berman

As a Texan, I apologize to America for that dumb motherfucker.

[blogslut]

76. Steve Cohen trying to pin down Barr about Lafayette park

Claiming his time like a boss.

[uponit7771]

77. Notice how Barr's blinking increased when it came to mention of Epstein

[Karma13612]

78. Yea Rep Steve Cohen!!! ❤️❤️👍👍

[blogslut]

79. Cohen asking where is the Unredacted Mueller report

The congressman is hitting all the bases

End claiming Barr should be impeached

[crickets]

80. Cohen calling out Barr about Epstein's death in custody.

Now giving him the business about the Mueller report, including the unfavorable comments from a federal judge. Excuses about ongoing cases as reason for not releasing unredacted report do not apply any longer.

Cohen has been treated differently from Flynn and Stone.

H Res 1032 submitted to investigate Barr and to determine whether he should be impeached. Putting in the record a letter signed by thousands of attorneys asking for his investigation and removal and more. Yikes!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

81. Doug Collins talking like an idiot

[blogslut]

82. Doug Collins (R) with his patented righteous indignation

He and Gym are so predictable.

Jones get Barr at agree, it was really mean for Mr. Nadler to call Barr's police stormtroopers.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

84. Doug Collins

Doug Jones is the Democratic Senator from Alabama

[blogslut]

101. I'm sorry

I'll fix it

[backtoblue]

85. Time for a thread 2 yet?

[blogslut]

88. Will you start it?

I forgot how I have to play host when I start a hearing thread.

Or does this mean I have to start a new one since I'm the idiot that just had to start an OP.

[backtoblue]

90. Sure lol

I'll try it

[blogslut]

92. Oh, good!

I will be there

[crickets]

86. Barr keeps trying to spin his answers to yes/no questions. It's not working. nt

[blogslut]

87. Hank Johnson attempting to get Barr to admit he changed Stone's sentence at the behest of his boss

Barr is raising his voice and losing his cool. Johnson is not letting him get away with it.

[malaise]

89. Johnson is doing very well

No one elevated it (during the Bush years) - Oops! May have just made a slip.

[uponit7771]

91. +1, the comparison to Bush 1 sentence lowering was good

[malaise]

94. Yep and the Rhino slipped up

[crickets]

93. Good catch. nt

[malaise]

97. Only if one of them follows up

[Mersky]

103. Here's a clip of it on Twitter

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Johnson really nailed the point about how barr determines the law, based on what tRump wants. Also, got at him for playing the American people for fools:

“You think that American people don’t understand that you were carrying out tRump’s will.”




Eta: Reposted this twitter clip I saw at the Twitter account on Yaesu’s OP: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213820298

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

95. Ken Buck worried about the ANTIFA strawman/boogieman

[crickets]

96. backtoblue has started thread two:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213819350

[backtoblue]

98. Thread 2 is up

https://democraticunderground.com/100213819350

[Mossfern]

99. I just wish that the pontificating would stop

This is not a time for soap boxes.
Now on Antifa.
Yes, the Wall of Moms is Antifa.

This is such bullshit.
Sorry, I was at the dentist this morning so I just tuned in.

Barr wants a brief recess.

[jayfish]

102. Yeah, I Don't Think These Hearings Are Helpful.

One side asks questions the other offers unchallenged exposition. And the questioning side seems... well... unprepared.

[Karma13612]

100. Time for a quick

Comfort break it looks like.