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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,135 posts)
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 01:36 PM Jul 2020

NYPD Under Scrutiny After Videos Show Officers Pulling Protester Into Unmarked Van

The New York City Police Department has come under scrutiny after videos showed officers pulling a protester into an unmarked van during a demonstration Tuesday in Manhattan against racism and police brutality.

The Gothamist, citing the protester’s friends, identified her as an 18-year-old transgender woman. Videos shared on social media show the demonstrator being restrained by several NYPD officers before being pulled into the van.

“They grabbed [her] like she was rag doll,” a protester and witness told The Gothamist. “They had her arms on her neck and then they drove off.”


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The NYPD said in a statement that the woman had been arrested after “damaging police cameras during 5 separate criminal incidents” in and around City Hall Park.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/nypd-protester-unmarked-van-video-043354729.html
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crickets

(25,982 posts)
6. IKR? Unmarked, armed, driving a minivan, grabbing a woman off the street at a protest.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 02:20 PM
Jul 2020

Until the bike cops showed up, who knew wth was happening? There are other ways to arrest people, even those who don't want to be arrested, without resorting to this level of nonsense.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
3. damaging police cameras during 5 separate criminal incidents?
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 01:43 PM
Jul 2020

Okay so why didn't uniformed police officers show up with an arrest warrant and arrest her.

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hack89

(39,171 posts)
5. Undercover warrant squads have been the norm in most cities for decades.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 02:14 PM
Jul 2020

makes it easier to track down people that don't want to be found.

unblock

(52,286 posts)
10. not actually sure what the dollar threshold is
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 03:51 PM
Jul 2020

also not sure they add it up across multiple incidents. maybe 5 counts of petty vandalism amounts to a felony charge.

regardless, that kind of treatment doesn't seem in line with that kind of property damage.

unblock

(52,286 posts)
11. i don't know what the line actually is, but damage to cameras seems pretty minor.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 03:55 PM
Jul 2020

maybe it is technically a felony, i don't know.

i don't know what kind of cameras they are, and perhaps there's something special about them that makes them more expensive than most, but 5 police body cameras can easily be had for under $1,000.

in any event, it's not like vandalizing a multi-million dollar piece of machinery or something.

or an actual act of violence, which might make a more violent arrest at least seem plausible....

hack89

(39,171 posts)
13. They were permanently mounted city surveillance cameras.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 04:42 PM
Jul 2020

What happens is what happens everyday in major cities. Warrant squads go out with a long list of people to pick up. That is what happened to her.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
15. Many on those lists are violent criminals
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 05:48 PM
Jul 2020

Getting people with outstanding warrants off the streets as quickly as possible is truly a matter of public safety.

unblock

(52,286 posts)
16. but lumping them in with the same tactic as someone who might have vandalized some cameras
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 05:57 PM
Jul 2020

is exactly the problem.

look, if there's a rapist armed with knives and guns running around loose in manhattan, and they haven't been able to find them at their home or place of work, but they are able to locate them walking down the street, sure. i'd still prefer blatantly clear police identification, but sure, i get that those people need to be arrested and pulling up in a van and quickly nabbing them might be best.

but for vandalism, it's completely ridiculous. should they also do that for a few unpaid parking tickets? c'mon.


btw, the police identification is at least as much for the protection of those making the arrest as for others. if someone shot one of the arresting people, thinking it was instead a gang or mob or terrorist group making an illegal kidnapping with zero government authority, i'd have to say i would have trouble coming to a guilty verdict were i on the jury where the shooter was charged with murder.

bluestarone

(17,012 posts)
12. Am i wrong thinking that the charges WILL NOT stick BECAUSE
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 04:08 PM
Jul 2020

Of how the victim was arrested? EVEN IF she did what they said, the arrest was probably ILLEGAL? Just thinking it doesn't look like the American way to arrest someone!

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