Finally told my Trumper cousin to go fuck herself

[vercetti2021]

After being so patient and sticking with family is family. Yeah fuck that shit. I had enough when she decided to once again paint Democrats as party of the KKK. And how young people are being indoctrinated into the party blah blah blah. You can get an idea where this is going.


So anyway I pop in because nobody ever challenges her and tell her I wasn't indoctrinated by a party. I became a Democrat because of what one party stood for. The conservative party is what made me never become one of them because they stand for everything that is against human rights and freedom.

So she then goes and asks me if I believe in white privilege. I say yes I do given the circumstances of what has been happening in America. White people are born with an advantage because we are white and have it easier than people of color. She decided to project and say I'm a white supremacist because I said I am above them. I'm like wtf? I'm pointing out a sad and depressing truth. I never once said I was above anyone.

Point being said. It goes on and on about Trump wanting to make schools better with these programs and kept linking me just bullshit that wasn't true. Finally someone else pops in, my other whack job cousin. Basically calling me out as a crybaby because I don't like the rich. This was an ancient comment over how the Trump tax cuts didn't do shit for me and I said. Well unless you were born with a silver spoon up your ass or get lucky with a business. You wouldn't benefit from those cuts. Thus she also adding she can't stand my type. And I'm like. Excuse me?

Point said. I told them both to go fuck themselves and really family doesn't go down the petty insults to make themselves look right on the topic. I've always tried to be respectful considering they are my elders. But I had enough. I said there's an unfriend and block button. Do it. I won't lose sleep over you two.

[sunonmars]

1. Sometimes you just have to save your own sanity, never compromise your principles or morals.

[vercetti2021]

8. Exactly!

And I had enough. Like projecting like Trump on family especially? Like wow that's cold. More cold than labeling me as a nazi or communist (yeah they labelled me as one more than once)

But your kind? They both know I'm bi and trans. And I instantly knew where she was going with that shit.

[sunonmars]

14. True family is often not blood but those you find. Cast off that bad energy, you don't need it.

[olegramps]

58. My Grandfather told me, God gives you your relatives its up to you to choose your friends.

[Eliot Rosewater]

2. Good for you

[live love laugh]

3. There's no "winning" with the entrenched.

Fuck them all.

[SharonAnn]

56. I tell them that after they've passed a college course in Logic, they cane come back

And talk to them. Until then, don’t bother me.

[bluedye33139]

4. I also have had family estrangement over politics

My brother and I barely speak. We get together once a year for half a day and as long as we're in public and never talk about politics, it's okay. But we cannot have conversations about anything that's happening in the country. It's sad.

[vercetti2021]

9. I love a good political argument

But when it comes to Trumpers? No sense of it. You know I never throw petty fucking insults at people during politics unless they fire off first and then it's free for all.

[StClone]

57. My family is always setting those fires

I don't understand them and after nearly 10 years we rarely speak. As my best friend and like-minded older sister, she bridged the gap and spoke to my remaining, mostly whack-a-doodle, sibs. Her and my Mother's recent deaths has left me aloof from my big clan. And except for another liberal brother who for some unknown reason doesn't communicate, I am pretty much in exile.

[vercetti2021]

60. Rather be in exile than be around nuts

They will never value you anyways due to being a liberal. I tried so so hard to always look past politics when it comes to family. The majority of my family is liberal. My mom down to my cousins and 2nd cousins. Hell even my 9 year old cousin is aware that Trump is a big fucking goon.

It's all the other side that was my mom's aunt and uncles kids that turned into crazies. My grandmother (god rest her soul) was very old fashion, but she was a huge yellow dog Dem. And she would start fights back during Obama's tenure when her nieces would always say the stupidest shit. She had since past on 6 years ago, but she knew where the line was drawn when it came to family and blurring the line of politics.

My cousins, much older cousins at that. They lost me due to them being so hateful for no reason. I always tried to be so respectful and kind when I would challenge them, but they would always go to the lowest common denominator. Throwing around insults were always present and even then I never dropped to the low to toss them back. I only do that with strangers. Then I will go into troll mode until they block me.

But needless to say. We don't need blood, because blood sometimes is poison to others. Friends can be a much better thing sometimes.

[StClone]

61. I miss pre-Fox days of family

I really miss all the fun stuff my family get-togethers used to spin off. The love, caring, and shared history. All are now lost memories of childhood stories of our lives together.

My family are racists, totally sold on Liberal evils and the like nonsense. For my sanity, like you, I have pretty much severed ties and built a wall which will only come down when they see the truth. Aging has made them more cemented and dementia maybe next, so I expect no change for the better.

[barbtries]

36. Same with my brother.

We are not formally estranged, but it would be an understatement to say we don't talk much. he's in the tank after 20 or so years of nonstop fox news.

[greenjar_01]

5. They sound like abusive people - you don't owe toxic and abusive family members your time or

attention.

[Laelth]

45. +1 n/t

-Laelth

[magicarpet]

6. Blood pressure took a dive of 23%....

[vercetti2021]

7. For reals

I've put up with their horseshit for the past year. I felt better just laying it into them. I actually felt sorry for her because most of the family where I live do not want anything to do with her. I gave her the benefit of the doubt because I'm the type of person. But if you lose me, that's one hell of an accomplishment because I tend to not drop people despite treating me like shit.

[catbyte]

10. I cut every last MAGAt out of my life over 3 years ago. It might be a character flaw on my part,

but I haven't spent one minute of my life since missing any of them. It's a crime what that thing has done to all of us.

[kimbutgar]

11. What is so sad about this mf45 presidency is how families and friends have been divided

We have are pos potus who wants to divide us rather than unite us. Especially during this pandemic we should be working together but the orange anus wants his brain dead cult members to ignore science and Not wear a mask and go out and affect themselves and others.

I never remember during the bush years so many family and friends had been so divideD, it just shows you how evil MF45 is. I have lost friends and weary around certain family members who still support him) His whole administration has been insidious and evil. His supporters are so brain washed they are brain damaged and their pre frontal cortex (empathy and reasoning) are gone. You just have to walk away because the are goners.

[vercetti2021]

19. And you'd be surprised how hard I try to just ignore it

But honestly there's so much shit that they post that I can't believe that lately I've been having to challenge. But they'll just gang up and start attacking. Doesn't matter what article I bring out or anything. It's all fake. And when I say well most of their stuff is fake. Its because I'm blind. I'm like...uh ok sure I'm the blind one. My head isn't up my own ass at least

[kimbutgar]

38. My sympathies. I would snooze them and enjoy my Facebook with my like minded friends

you are wasting your time and effort to change their minds they have lost the capacity to be reasoned with. My husbands nephew posted that insane plandemic video and I hid his friend and him. He is a young kid who is easily influenced. But I don’t want to engage with him though to keep the family peace.

[LuckyCharms]

12. Did the same thing with several of my cousins .

You can only take so much.

[diane in sf]

13. No amount of rational discussion will change the minds of the brainwashed.

[FakeNoose]

15. You can't save a person who refuses to listen to reason

The "block" function is your friend. I do it a lot!

[Awsi Dooger]

16. She should have been told off decades ago

The cousins on my father's side stay away from me completely because they know their simpleton rubbish has no chance. I have caused them to curse and run away numerous times. It's always funny when they send somebody up for another attempt, like a friend. Somehow they actually believe that comparative competence within their circle can stand up outside it.

Same thing on sports forums of all types

[SWBTATTReg]

17. Good for you. I've had enough of these bullies too. Arrogant little snots (apologize for language)

but these assh**es couldn't find the right way to take a crap until they kiss rump's ass while he screws them in the meantime. Sounds like to me that they're the crybabies in this scenario and you stood up to them. Good for you! I think all of us DUers and a lot of Americans who truly care about this Country are standing up after being abused too long and without cause.

Ignorant a&&es are going to be crying a lot and crying foul in November 2020, I am thinking.

[vercetti2021]

18. I wanted to keep them around for that reason

I was gonna hardcore gloat like they all did in 2016. But no sense in that. It's just tasteless

[qazplm135]

20. you can pick your friends...

or your nose...

but...

[albacore]

21. The real question... for those who have hung in there with family MAGA members...is:

What happens after trump is gone... and the country gets its sanity back?

Do you just sit across the Thanksgiving table (if that ever happens again) and talk about the weather?.... knowing what you know about them?

90% of Republicans approve of trump.. all the polls show.

How can we ever let that kind of racism and sick nationalism and anti-scientific, anti-reason thinking back into our lives.

Easy for me to talk. I don't have any of those people anymore. Gone long since.

For those of you still hanging in with MAGA friends and relations... what's your plan?

[StarlightGold]

35. Exactly!!

I look at a certain family member, who is a hard-core trump/limbaugh disciple, and can't believe the filthy hatred that eats away at them. i am actually repulsed by them and thought the same as you. I could not listen to them spew their dirty hatred and then say "OK, burgers are ready, let's eat!" Not in my life anymore. Thank God. I just wish I had made that move YEARS ago.

[Paladin]

22. Well done. Cut them both off and walk away from them. (nt)

[LuckyLib]

23. Huge numbers of folks would benefit from getting toxic

Facebook out of their lives. Magats would have to make an effort to challenge you by phone or in person. To which you reply, “I don’t discuss politics or social issues with you. How are your tomatoes this year?”

[the_sly_pig]

24. Jettison trumptards. No mercy.

Traitors to the Constitution. Shallow. Thoughtless. Fragile. Bitter and angry. I have tossed family members and feel much better for it. And I’m gonna gloat like a mofo when we have the Senate and the White House. I’m gonna rub that schnitzel in their faces every chance I get and remind them of their treason for the rest of their lives.

[gratuitous]

25. See, now that's why you're a better person than me

I would have told them, "Bless your hearts. I'll be praying for you." Then ghosted.

[leighbythesea2]

26. Probably necessary

I have an elder getting angrier, narrower than thought possible. Very Christian. Everything is starting to go counter to true "christian" principles.
And im not religious. Ive kind of written it off. Its actually a little scary. Seems like these folks that support trump have tacked into far right crazy (crazier?) territory in three and a half years.

[RedPillJunkie]

41. Same Here

They are getting angrier, more desperate, narrower. My mother-in-law, a Christian, is one of them. They are experiencing an existential threat to their very being, not that that's an excuse. I keep asking her; "How do you expect to stand before God with all that hate in your heart?" She's 80. No answer.....

[leighbythesea2]

42. Quite similar!

Gosh youve described it. It IS like an existential crisis. That was a good question for her.
May use that.
Honestly it's hard to wrap my head around why it results in such uncivilized behavior.
There's a lashing out i had not seen before. An extended family member called it out a bit recently. Family reunion cancelled out of safety concerns. She got very agressive on a family fb page. Over Covid, I'm sure I don't have to descrobe her POV. Someone ended their comment with "I'm sorry you are so angry".

[gopiscrap]

54. welcome to DU

[blueinredohio]

27. I wouldn't have let it get that far.

[mokawanis]

28. I did the same about a month ago

A cousin I grew up around and then re-connected with on Facebook several months ago. I knew he was a right-wing Trumper but I gave him his space and didn't say anything when he posted Trump garbage on his FB page. The problems began when he'd get upset about things I posted, and it got to the point where he was starting arguments and being insulting. I gave him one warning and then when he persisted I unfriended him and blocked him.

I was a little worried about how two other cousins, his sisters, might react but they are both Democrats who continue to be friendly towards me. Sometimes you just gotta rid yourself of toxic people, even when they're relatives.

[vercetti2021]

49. That's a good outcome

But normally I hardly post anything political on my Facebook. But when I do. She instantly has to defend Trump even though that most of my Facebook posting is shitposts anyway lol

[paleotn]

29. Many have been through the same...

So have I. Some may say family is family, but personally, I just don't do fascists and racists. Life is too short to put up with that shit. I don't associate with those who aid and abet the destruction of our democracy. Been that way between me and some of my family since 2016, and 4 years later they can still kiss my ass.

[pandr32]

30. You can't win

Hopefully, Putin won't get his boy reinstalled and the scope of disinformation and Russian involvement through social media and other media involvement will become known. Bit by bit the reality of what has been happening will come to light. Your cousin may never accept it, but lots of others will. For reference look at how Germany came to understand what the Nazis had done after the war was lost.
There will be a huge mess to clean up and hopefully some who were completely indoctrinated will come around, your family included.
Meanwhile, know that most of us have faced similar frustration with family members.

[Karadeniz]

31. You didn't chose to be with people like them. Sometimes you just have to shove them away and fill

The vacancies with decent people!

[StarlightGold]

32. Just because someone shares your DNA

is NO reason to have them in your life. Especially if they wreck havoc on your emotional/mental health. Family is who you want, not people that you are "stuck" with. You're doing well; keep taking care of YOU. You're worth it.

[LymphocyteLover]

33. it's truly sad what rightwing media has done to people-- totally brainwashed them

[Nitram]

34. It's especially hard to deal with ultra-conservatives and Trumpers in one's own family.

The only way my family can handle it is to avoid any discussion of politics and current events. Sad, but necessary, if we are to continue spending time together.

[vercetti2021]

48. We never did to begin with

I live 150 miles away. I felt sorry for her because no one up here wanted to see her the last time she visited. Well I wonder why? Maybe because you labeled your whole family as nazis and communists.

[MLAA]

37. Good for you! 💕

[tandgf]

39. Just remember

They have shown their true colors - Don't let your guard down - I am sorry it took you this long to finally stand your ground - But at least you did - Right on to you !!!

[JHB]

40. This is why I insist conservatives use English Only

Standard English, that is, not that weird dialect they have that uses the same words but gives them wildly different meanings.

You know, like how the economic system we had during WW2 and the Cold War was "socialism", or where speaking against police brutality is somehow calling for cop-killing, or how dreadful "European socialism" is, even though the countries practicing it are the "free world" we used to lead, etc.

[Grasswire2]

43. I searched for decades to find my lost first cousin.

Roger's father, my dad's brother, died when Roger was a child, and Roger's mother re-married and we lost track of Roger because his last name changed. I was a toddler then.

We looked for Roger for decades. My blood kin.

Then I learned he was dead. Long ago, in another state.

A couple of years ago, I was contacted by Roger's son on ancestry.com. SHOCKER. Total shocker. I was really happy to learn some details about Rob and his family. My lost cousin's son.

Then he friended me on FB.

He's a Tucker Carlson believer, a gun-loving Texan true Trump believer.

Gah!!! So sad.

I have to keep him muted.

[vercetti2021]

47. Joyful

Gotta love when these types represent our state

[BigDemVoter]

44. I don't blame you.

I had a very close friend from school who is a repig. She was the only repig friend I had left and I just avoided talking about politics with her. But. . . She wouldn't stop bad mouthing Obama when he was president, and I just ignored it. When Trump slithered into the White House, she just couldn't take the fact that I referred to him as "Pussy-Grabber" and stopped talking to me. . .

She could certainly dish it out but couldn't take it. I don't know if I have ever been friends with somebody who was so poorly informed.

In any case, good fucking riddance. She was a monstrous racist, and I had that on my conscience every time I talked to her. As a liberal, secular Jew, I had to take issue with her talking about how she "jewed people down" on prices. . . . She was clueless, and I'm sure she still is.

[vercetti2021]

46. Ugh

People like this lol well my cousin with her projection of I'm a white supremacist means to me that she in fact is one herself.

[Upthevibe]

50. I'm sorry that happened to you but I think it's AWESOME that

you stood up to them. At this point, I've accepted the fact that these people are they're cult members.....

[vercetti2021]

51. Yep

They need to drink the kool-aid and take an exit from our reality and into their MAGA heaven aka Limbo or Purgatory.

[certainot]

52. i have a suggestion. whether they get it from fox or radio or some website they all know who

limbaugh is.

if you ever talk to them again and get into such arguments you can probably immediately put them on the defensive and in the dumb/bigoted/fascist box by prefacing responses with something like "you sound like limbaugh" or "well. that's what limbaugh keeps saying" "just because limbaugh says it all day....." - because a lot of what you say she said re white privilege has been common on the radio for years - excusing it based on bullshit and out of context and straw men etc

sampling the dumb bitter suicidal dying asshole the other day he was just on a rant saying that many of the BLM protestors are college educated (vs all non -college educated )white women between 20 -35 or something who have bought into a liberal victimhood hoax that they're all suppressed by white men, etc. that along with a variety of other characterizations of BLM protestors (same as all protestors who aren't teabags) and that BLM is a chaameleon variation of communist marxist terrorist organization..... all day long for years

republicans are in that box and limbaugh is the bow on top they all recognize but few are keen to be associated with

everythinbg loathsome you can think of for republicans can be applied to limbaugh without going directly at them and they will feel the association whether they listen directly or not because they know much of it came out of his ass

[Hulk]

53. It's a sickness....

You are NEVER going to change their minds. Don’t waste your time. I have cult family members. Nothing I can say is going to untwist the nonsense they have knotted up in their heads.

How do you argue with “the democrats started the KKK”, or “the party of Lincoln”, or “ all the major cities with the worst crime in the country are run by democrats”, or finally, “ all the programs passed by democrats have held the black man down”. These are their ignorant defense from intelligent reasoning. You aren’t EVER going to change their minds, because they fervently believe this illogical bull shit, and it’s repeatedly pumped in to their ignorant brain on fox/Putin poison. Oh, and don’t forget, democrats are for abortions...not a woman’s rights, but FOR killing the unborn fetuses.

You are NEVER going to change their minds, no matter how immoral and corrupt the republicans are. It’s “ no contest” in their sick, twisted minds. Don’t waste your time. They will always be among us. My grandparents belonged to the KKK, and they hated FDR. Lost cause. Teach your children well....those children can’t be taught any truths. It no longer matters.

[theaocp]

55. "Family isn't about the blood you share.

It's about the people willing to bleed for you." It doesn't sound like they would bleed for you.

[vercetti2021]

59. They wouldn't

I'd be the first they would toss over to the sharks in a sinking boat.

[theaocp]

62. I'm sorry for the pain.

You sound perhaps more healthy away from them. Be well.

[vercetti2021]

63. That's for sure

Can't stand the batshit insanity