Beware of Pence?

[progressive nobody]

That is what my friend said to me and she may be right.

Paul Manafort hand-picked.

I thought Cheney was secretive ...Pence seems to have given the master class of stealth that Cheney took. Trump is the distraction for Pence and Putin.


She concern that Pence will somehow get the nomination at the convention or becomes the October surprise and Trump steps aside on the Ticket.

[underpants]

1. Pence is a potted plant

[soothsayer]

2. Yes! I read that same (probably) creepy account of how they hooked him up with pence

Pretended the plane was broken so he’d have to spend time with him.

Drumpf is super easy to manipulate, as Putin knows.

Pence is ambitious, it said.

[totodeinhere]

28. That may be but Trump would not be the first presidential candidate who was talked into a

running mate who was not his first choice. We need to only go back to McCain and the Palin debacle as another example. McCain wanted Joe Lieberman, but was talked out of it.

[SoonerPride]

3. He would still lose massively.

Yes he’s a snake.

But if trump isn’t on the ticket the trumpists freak out and refuse to vote

[LonePirate]

4. Elected DC Repubs may like Pence but he does not command the loyalty of the deplorables.

Once 45 is gone, the deplorables have no leader unless Junior or one of the extremists like Tucker Carlson or a mouth breather currently in Congress steps up. Even then, 45 is the only one able to unite the deplorables. Everyone else will lose some of their fervent supporters.

[Siwsan]

5. Cheney was evil, but he was also smart. I don't see Pence as being anything more than a lackey

The only reason he was picked was to throw something to the evangelicals. Honestly, he's like a giant Blancmange in human form. (I wish I could photoshop his face onto that pic.)

[Wounded Bear]

6. Pence is more politically savvy than Trump...

but that's about all he has going for him. He was busy losing his governor's seat when he was picked to be Trump's Toady.

He still has the evangelical vote, I'm sure. Currently, our surges in the 'burbs are leading, but I don't like Pence. He's the kind of weasel that can finagle dark forces.

[rso]

7. Pence

Pence does not have the cult-like following that Trump goes. The cult-members would be livid and would desert the ticket. I think Pence’s loss in the Election would be by an even larger margin than Donnie’s.

[TheCowsCameHome]

8. He has all the charm and appeal of a toilet log

He'd sink like a stone.

[Sneederbunk]

9. Pence is needed to pardon a resigning Trump.

[dhill926]

10. nope...he was headed towards losing the election as gov in Indiana...

as a republican. Hard to do...

[Kaleva]

11. Pence lacks name recognition amongst Trump supporters.

[maveric]

12. Pence is a sock puppet.

[lame54]

13. That would be amazing...

It's Trump's loyal following - not Pence's

[BigmanPigman]

14. Pence was with those wacko "doctors" on tRump's video

CNN just reported.

[Hekate]

15. Recently I heard that Melania had a hand in picking Pence, as well...

The reasons were odd (to me, anyway) : she knew her husband was an alpha male, and needed to always be the alpha, so she felt that Pence was so beta that he would do. Ew.

I knew about Manafort and always wondered what the backstory to that was, but I guess this bastardized Game of Thrones has stories within stories.

If I didn’t know anything about Pence I’d take him at face value, because he looks so steady next to crazy Trump.

But Pence is the guy that let his own state have a big outbreak of AIDS while he was governor. He’s a theocrat who made his wife-to-be “repent” for having been married and divorced before him. He’s a theocrat who believes with all his heart that the US needs to be run on “Biblical law” —and that if anything happens to Trump, it will be God’s Will telling him to go for it.

[totodeinhere]

21. Source please. I am skeptical of unsourced claims like that. n/t

[Hekate]

22. Understood.

TV. Interview or documentary which I chose to miss, but which my husband watched and conveyed this tidbit to me.

If I delete that one section of my post, my entire point will still remain the same and imo will still be valid. Pence is a theocrat who did very poorly as a governor. And Manafort hand picked him. And why the hell was that?

[totodeinhere]

23. Thanks for your reply. This was such a juicy tidbit that I wanted a source to pass to my friends.

But that's okay.

[Flaleftist]

26. Rick Gates mentioned it in his book.

Gates also opened up to Barak about behind-the-scenes details from the campaign, including whom Donald Trump may have wanted as a running mate. He said Indiana Governor Mike Pence was not then-candidate Trump's first pick.

"To be, you know, candid, he wasn't at the top of the list at that moment," Gates told Barak. "And rightfully so. We had just started. And we had others to vet."

He revealed that it was Melania Trump who insisted Pence be her husband's running mate because she didn't think he would run against Mr. Trump in 2020.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-book-rick-gates-melania-trump-donald-trump-mike-pence-running-mate/

[totodeinhere]

27. Thanks.

[Journeyman]

16. So many scared spitless of an "October Surprise." Let's concentrate on what WE will do in October...

and deal with the Dotard's blithering idiocy when it arises.

[USALiberal]

17. A friend? Is this friend a DC insider? nt'

[progressive nobody]

19. no, it was just a concern.

[Thomas Hurt]

18. The danger of Pence is not that he is some how a intelligent super villain...

the danger of Pence is that he is a servile, christofascist theocrat who wants nothing more than to install a christian theocracy in this country.

[totodeinhere]

20. It's another crazy conspiracy theory. Tump will get the nomination and he and Pence will lose in

November.

[Iterate]

24. You mean Pence the coward who wouldn't, couldn't stand up

to Trump to defend American citizens, American lives?

The yes-man to every policy, every tweet, every violation? In a certain way it makes him even more disgusting. He's not even original.

Those ads and characterizations just write themselves. If anyone thinks it might be a real possibility, then produce and bank about 100 TLP style ads to hold in reserve and release before his hand hits the bible.

Plus, I wouldn't assume the Republican election machinery from donors to phone banks are agile and skilled enough to make that kind of switch. It would be a massacre, but not without plenty of fear and uncertainty.

[Blue Owl]

25. The most useless man in America?

Pfffft, he's a guaranteed loser.