Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

tulipsandroses

(5,124 posts)
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:23 PM Jul 2020

Does this country have the stomach to do what must be done? Investigate this administration?

(No question in my mind ,bar their success at vote suppression that Trump will lose and we are highly likely to take the senate)

So the question is Will this country do what must be done"

Or will we just breathe a sigh or relief and try to go back to life as normal as we can? This administration is corrupt. They should be punished for their crimes. Trump is not the only one. But does this country - we the people - have the stomach to back up the next administration to do the necessary work? Or will we just go about our lives, just happy to be rid of them.
Are we going to say its just politics when the Republicans start their pushback against any investigations.

29 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Does this country have the stomach to do what must be done? Investigate this administration? (Original Post) tulipsandroses Jul 2020 OP
Yes! These bastards all need to go to prison. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #1
This!👆 SheltieLover Jul 2020 #7
Yes! These bastards all need to go to prison. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #2
yes. but the problem is the system which gives disproportionate representation JI7 Jul 2020 #3
If we control all 3 branches after the election the first thing we need to do is make DC onecaliberal Jul 2020 #11
We do need to start seriously talking about it so when we get the numbers JI7 Jul 2020 #12
I agree. It needs to be one of the first things done onecaliberal Jul 2020 #14
I find it hard to believe that we would do anything beyond a slap on the wrist Poiuyt Jul 2020 #4
In which case this will happen again durablend Jul 2020 #13
I don't doubt it Poiuyt Jul 2020 #28
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." Mr. Ected Jul 2020 #5
Very true! SheltieLover Jul 2020 #9
I agree. We cannot let it go this time tulipsandroses Jul 2020 #20
No. sarcasmo Jul 2020 #6
Yes, and I don't think they will be saying it just about Trump. Fox News will be going full speed tulipsandroses Jul 2020 #16
Yes but... 2bestill Jul 2020 #8
No. There were no Wall Street prosecutions after 2008 collapse. Sneederbunk Jul 2020 #10
Who should have been prosecuted ? JI7 Jul 2020 #15
For starters: Sneederbunk Jul 2020 #22
All of them ? and for what ? JI7 Jul 2020 #23
Cause few did things that were illegal, they were allowed high risk by Bush admin uponit7771 Jul 2020 #24
exactly, the economic disaster was a result of Bush administration policy JI7 Jul 2020 #27
The country? Probably. The people in charge who like to treat Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2020 #17
I think ultimately it may come down to all of us, We the People, holding them responsible. CaptainTruth Jul 2020 #18
+1, uponit7771 Jul 2020 #26
It worries me because bush jr IS a war criminal and is walking Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #19
Make sure the Senate flips, tulips. Then GOTV for the midterms & keep the House... Hekate Jul 2020 #21
WE MUST HOLD THE ENTIRE ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE vapor2 Jul 2020 #25
Are you speaking pre or post election? herding cats Jul 2020 #29

onecaliberal

(32,852 posts)
1. Yes! These bastards all need to go to prison.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:25 PM
Jul 2020

We need laws to ensure this never ever happens again. The constitution is nothing right now. If we were following it dump, McConnell and many republicans would have been removed from office and tried for their crimes. Some people ARE above the law as it stands now.

onecaliberal

(32,852 posts)
2. Yes! These bastards all need to go to prison.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:26 PM
Jul 2020

We need laws to ensure this never ever happens again. The constitution is nothing right now. If we were following it dump, McConnell and many republicans would have been removed from office and tried for their crimes. Some people ARE above the law as it stands now.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
3. yes. but the problem is the system which gives disproportionate representation
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:27 PM
Jul 2020

to right wing leaning areas allowing minority racists more influence over majority of the country.

onecaliberal

(32,852 posts)
11. If we control all 3 branches after the election the first thing we need to do is make DC
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:33 PM
Jul 2020

A state. Problem solved, at least for a while.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
12. We do need to start seriously talking about it so when we get the numbers
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:35 PM
Jul 2020

we can do it as fast as possible.

Include puerto rico also although that will take more

onecaliberal

(32,852 posts)
14. I agree. It needs to be one of the first things done
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:39 PM
Jul 2020

Chuck and Nancy need to be swift and bulldoze it through.

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
4. I find it hard to believe that we would do anything beyond a slap on the wrist
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:28 PM
Jul 2020

Some low level people might be sent to prison, but trump and his family will get off scott free.

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
28. I don't doubt it
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 01:10 AM
Jul 2020

I just don't see the US prosecuting a former president. Especially in this case where the president is a cult leader.

On edit-- I believe with all my heart that trump should be behind bars. I just don't think we have the guts to do it.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
5. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:29 PM
Jul 2020

We've let it go before, many a time, and each time the result is more insidious, more diabolical, more existentially threatening.

This time we've spent 4 years splitting hairs debating whether what they've done is treason as defined by the constitution.

If we excuse this behavior and just move on, the next time may well be the last time.

The jury is still out as to whether Trump is signalling the last time, though. We're walking a fine line.

tulipsandroses

(5,124 posts)
16. Yes, and I don't think they will be saying it just about Trump. Fox News will be going full speed
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:43 PM
Jul 2020

about Dems wanting to destroy the Republican party, they want one party rule, socialism, fascism and other outrageous nonsense
My fear is that so many people desperate for some sense of normalcy will just want to let it go and move on instead of more long drawn out political war fare.

2bestill

(13 posts)
8. Yes but...
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:30 PM
Jul 2020

I think Biden and other Dems need to keep this on the down low. We don't want to give any energy to Trump voters and perceived "persecution" may do that. I really do believe a list of Trump malfeasance is being kept and will be decimated to Fed and State officials once a Biden presidency is underway. At least this is my hope.
Katrina

Sneederbunk

(14,290 posts)
22. For starters:
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:56 PM
Jul 2020

Execs at Washington Mutual, IndyMac and Countrywide. CEOS at JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, Citibank, Deutsche Bank and Wells Fargo.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
19. It worries me because bush jr IS a war criminal and is walking
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:48 PM
Jul 2020

around a free man, enjoying a life of leisure.

The LAST thing that I want to hear is "we need to move forward and bring the country together".

One reason we have this idiot in the Oval Office is that jr (and all his accomplices) was not prosecuted for his crimes.

Hekate

(90,667 posts)
21. Make sure the Senate flips, tulips. Then GOTV for the midterms & keep the House...
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:50 PM
Jul 2020

As we found out during the Obama admin, when people sit on their asses during the midterms, a Democratic president’s ability to get anything done is greatly inhibited.

And that’s the truth.

vapor2

(1,245 posts)
25. WE MUST HOLD THE ENTIRE ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 11:00 PM
Jul 2020

What makes me sick is that taxpayers will continue to pay trump a salary after he leaves office. The damage this man has done cannot be dismissed.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
29. Are you speaking pre or post election?
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 01:19 AM
Jul 2020

If we win its game on. If we don't, it's all over. For good. Lights out in America.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Does this country have th...