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Renew Deal

(81,855 posts)
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 12:21 AM Jul 2020

Bush Jr. read the book "The Great Influenza" and it "freaked him out."

I was just watching ABC's retelling of the Coronavirus story. One of the parts is that Bush was on one of his long vacations in Crawford and he read a book in 2005 about the Spanish Flu. ABC said that "freaked him out" and he decided to focus his administration on it.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/george-bush-2005-wait-pandemic-late-prepare/story?id=69979013

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Bush Jr. read the book "The Great Influenza" and it "freaked him out." (Original Post) Renew Deal Jul 2020 OP
It's an extraordinary book. Maru Kitteh Jul 2020 #1
Well, yeah. It's an absolutely incredible book. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #2
I read cannabis_flower Jul 2020 #19
It almost killed my grandmother. RandySF Jul 2020 #3
My paternal grandfather died from it in 1919... Cha Jul 2020 #7
It did kill my dad's cousin. Norbert Jul 2020 #23
Color me surprised, but that is to his credit Hekate Jul 2020 #4
GWB was not a sociopath Ex Lurker Jul 2020 #10
I wouldn't say that. LudwigPastorius Jul 2020 #14
He's probably long since convinced himself Mariana Jul 2020 #15
Me too. dflprincess Jul 2020 #13
It's a great read. And not too long. Scary as hell. GulfCoast66 Jul 2020 #5
Trump's grandfather on his father's side died of it lunatica Jul 2020 #9
If the fucking moron either BigmanPigman Jul 2020 #17
It's truly a must read book. herding cats Jul 2020 #6
Color me surprised that he actually read a book. tinrobot Jul 2020 #8
Does "My Pet Goat" count? robbob Jul 2020 #26
I doubt he actually read it but I can see him hearing about it JI7 Jul 2020 #11
I think all previous presidents before DT took pandemics fairly seriously Blue Owl Jul 2020 #12
I don't like Bush Jr. or Sr. They helped launch us into what we are dealing with now: TumPutin C Moon Jul 2020 #16
Those two would have Halliburton making respirators and developing a vaccine..... KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2020 #21
Exactly! C Moon Jul 2020 #27
A Coloring Book version might help to get trump's attention rpannier Jul 2020 #18
As much as my disdain for GWBush*-- at least he READ. hlthe2b Jul 2020 #20
I doubt he read it. llmart Jul 2020 #22
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2020 #24
The village idiot/war criminal was a gentleman and a scholar compared to the sack of shit. dalton99a Jul 2020 #25

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,848 posts)
2. Well, yeah. It's an absolutely incredible book.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 12:31 AM
Jul 2020

I read a LOT of books about diseases and epidemiology and this is one of the very best.

Also, anything at all by Laurie Garrett.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
19. I read
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 03:14 AM
Jul 2020

The Coming Plague. Scary stuff. I read it before the West African Ebola epidemic. Basically says more is coming.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
7. My paternal grandfather died from it in 1919...
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 12:52 AM
Jul 2020

guess that was the 2nd wave.

He worked in a train station in Eastern Colorado.

LudwigPastorius

(9,137 posts)
14. I wouldn't say that.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 01:39 AM
Jul 2020

He elected to start a war that killed over half a million people, and I'll bet he sleeps like a baby every night.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
15. He's probably long since convinced himself
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 01:57 AM
Jul 2020

that he actually saved millions and millions of lives with his war.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
13. Me too.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 01:27 AM
Jul 2020

I'm also surprised he has enough imagination to have realized it could happen again and the time to prepare was before it did.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
5. It's a great read. And not too long. Scary as hell.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 12:43 AM
Jul 2020

The most chilling part is the last chapter when he imagines that same virus today. Our ICUs, which can save people, would quickly be full and people would just die. Covid is bad. But that flu was way worse. People would get on a bus feeling ok and fall off dead. They actually had Monte Python style death wagons picking up the dead in Philadelphia. The worst part it killed mainly by cytokine storm. So it killed those between 20 and 40 at the highest rate. Because their immune systems went crazy and killed them. The old and young were less at risk.

Imagine that with with social media! The book was written before it plagued us.

If you haven’t read it you should.

Too bad trump can’t read.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
9. Trump's grandfather on his father's side died of it
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 01:01 AM
Jul 2020

The same one who made his fortune by following the gold rush prospectors with brothels.

Trump’s father never spoke of him, so it might be possible Trump doesn’t even know. It was in Mary Trump’s book. Trump talks a lot of the Spanish Influenza in 1917, but he never mentions his grandfather. Maybe it’s because of the brothels.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
17. If the fucking moron either
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 02:20 AM
Jul 2020

A. Read anything, ever .....or
B. Gave a shit about anyone other than himself and money...

he could Google his own family's history and find out that he died while walking with his evil kid, Fred.

"The family story of his death is that "on May 29, 1918, while walking with his son Fred, Trump suddenly felt extremely sick and was rushed to bed. The next day, he was dead. What was first diagnosed as pneumonia turned out to be one of the early cases of the Spanish flu, which caused millions of deaths around the world."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Trump

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
6. It's truly a must read book.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 12:49 AM
Jul 2020

That Baby Bush read it... well, that's good, but the RW'S bar is so much lower now.

I suppose it was 2008 when they consummated the embracing of their loony side. Prior to then they just heavy petted them on election years.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
11. I doubt he actually read it but I can see him hearing about it
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 01:05 AM
Jul 2020

from others and agreeing it was a serious matter.

Blue Owl

(50,349 posts)
12. I think all previous presidents before DT took pandemics fairly seriously
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 01:16 AM
Jul 2020

I don't recall any of them disbanding the CDC over some petty grudge.

DT is a fucking menace to society. If he just would have kept the CDC and let them do their job, none of this would be happening. Just think about that -- there wouldn't be a pandemic, we'd be going about life and business like usual. But because of the petty, feeble mind of one man, here we are...

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
16. I don't like Bush Jr. or Sr. They helped launch us into what we are dealing with now: TumPutin
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 02:09 AM
Jul 2020

And I think if Cheney would have told Jr. he found a way to make money on a pandemic, he would have rolled over and obeyed.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
21. Those two would have Halliburton making respirators and developing a vaccine.....
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 06:59 AM
Jul 2020

from crude oil.

KY......... ........

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
20. As much as my disdain for GWBush*-- at least he READ.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 06:47 AM
Jul 2020

He could be an a'hole, a moron, and clueless, but he was not ineducable. Disdain or no, we'd undoubtedly be in better shape now if it were him and not Trump in office. No doubt.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
22. I doubt he read it.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 07:04 AM
Jul 2020

Maybe he read the Cliff Notes. Or someone else read it and briefed him on the high points.

Let's not start thinking he was a good President. He wasn't.

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