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mucifer

(23,470 posts)
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 11:34 AM Jul 2020

FEC commissioner to Trump: 'No. You don't have the power to move the election'

Federal Elections Commission (FEC) Commissioner Ellen Weintraub flatly stated on Thursday that the executive branch does not have the power to delay a presidential election after President Trump stirred an uproar by raising the idea in an early morning tweet.

“No, Mr. President. No,” Weintraub said in a statement shared on Twitter. "You don't have the power to move the election. Nor should it be moved."

"States and localities are asking you and Congress for funds so they can properly run the safe and secure elections all Americans want," she added. "Why don't you work on that?"


more:
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/509764-fec-commissioner-to-trump-no-you-dont-have-the-power-to-move-the-election
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FEC commissioner to Trump: 'No. You don't have the power to move the election' (Original Post) mucifer Jul 2020 OP
He will try to just take that power. triron Jul 2020 #1
It can't happen Loki Liesmith Jul 2020 #4
Oh SNAP!!! Madame Speaker becomes President Pelosi. Imagine that!! onetexan Jul 2020 #14
YES!!! elleng Jul 2020 #21
Wouldn't that be nice. R's would jump off a cliff. Pepsidog Jul 2020 #25
Nice to hear from you again. Thanks for the information. triron Jul 2020 #19
no, as IF there are NO elections in November, then come January 3rd, the House has no members Celerity Jul 2020 #43
Vacant Senate seats can be filled by Governors whopis01 Jul 2020 #66
Definitely can't happen GB_RN Jul 2020 #44
It's a fine point but the election date is set by federal statute, not the constitution. TomSlick Jul 2020 #64
Umm... GB_RN Jul 2020 #67
You are correct. My apologies. TomSlick Aug 2020 #68
The House can appoint anyone to the speakership Captain Zero Jul 2020 #48
He won't "work on that." Kid Berwyn Jul 2020 #2
From the same article... SergeStorms Jul 2020 #26
Can he replace her? Hope not. 😨 SaveOurDemocracy Jul 2020 #3
That was my first thought. She's about to get the "you're fired" treatment. BComplex Jul 2020 #7
Thank you for this!! onetexan Jul 2020 #18
The FBI director has a term of, I believe, 9 years. rsdsharp Jul 2020 #63
Current House seats all expire on Jan. 3, 2021 Retrograde Jul 2020 #33
I don't see how Trump could prevent states from holding state elections avebury Jul 2020 #34
if it goes past Jan 2, every state legislature in the country yellowdogintexas Jul 2020 #65
A discussion I had on Twitter we thought AllyCat Jul 2020 #41
Pompeo say DOJ will decide, so then what? SoonerPride Jul 2020 #5
No you fucking won't Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #9
Pompeo is a jackass. He needs to be deported to Russia. LiberalFighter Jul 2020 #13
I'd like to Pompy in an orange jumpsuit, too. rickyhall Jul 2020 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author LudwigPastorius Jul 2020 #16
He's just as wrong as the idiot he works for wryter2000 Jul 2020 #20
Poopeo is full of poop. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #24
How do Pompeo or the DOJ get to call the shots? Sugarcoated Jul 2020 #50
So *there*, donnie. crickets Jul 2020 #6
lifelong con artist tRump, an NBC made reality show star, his presidency is & has been fashioned yaesu Jul 2020 #8
Well, we know why he won't work on that! Re--last line. pandr32 Jul 2020 #10
"work"? he doesn't do "work" 0rganism Jul 2020 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author onetexan Jul 2020 #22
He knows he is going to lose Roc2020 Jul 2020 #12
In deed, he'll continue to consolidate power & make himself lifetime president like Putin, Kim & Xi onetexan Jul 2020 #23
recreational tyranny 0rganism Jul 2020 #32
The media is feeding his brain Crazyleftie Jul 2020 #15
"the media" is not a monolith maxsolomon Jul 2020 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jul 2020 #27
He's not setting the groundwork to move the election Saviolo Jul 2020 #28
And from what Barr has been saying leftieNanner Jul 2020 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author marie999 Jul 2020 #37
That's all well and good... Saviolo Jul 2020 #40
Let Them Whine ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #39
We've said this over and over regarding Trump. Saviolo Jul 2020 #45
Does Your Neck Hurt? ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #46
It's about fraudulent elections. Saviolo Jul 2020 #59
Won't work. He tried the same thing in 2016. Nonsense claim(s) not backed by evidence. SWBTATTReg Jul 2020 #52
Was my tweet reply too harsh? chwaliszewski Jul 2020 #29
Can you flag or report this tweet? leftieNanner Jul 2020 #31
Twitter has rules about misleading information on elections. Initech Jul 2020 #51
i reported his tweet. lies about election is against Twitter rules trueblue2007 Jul 2020 #57
Can states postpone the election? AlexSFCA Jul 2020 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author marie999 Jul 2020 #38
As long as a simple majority of electors are certified by Dec 10, yes. CaptainTruth Jul 2020 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author marie999 Jul 2020 #49
sounds great to me AlexSFCA Jul 2020 #56
There goes tiptonic Jul 2020 #36
Loser Trump becomes more desperate Nululu Jul 2020 #42
GOP senators are also shooting the idea down Warpy Jul 2020 #53
Trump will simply make himself softydog88 Jul 2020 #55
'Cause trump is a ******* Fascist-Putin's Puppet.. but Cha Jul 2020 #58
Trump either has no case or a weak case. If he has a good one, he's not telling you, which is why bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #60
The fix is in Squidly Jul 2020 #61
In other news, warmfeet Jul 2020 #62

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
4. It can't happen
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 11:43 AM
Jul 2020

If there’s no election before the electoral college meets then the Speaker of the House becomes the next president on Jan 20. At that point the secret service transfers loyalty to her and they will act to remove any unwanted individuals in the White House.

onetexan

(13,019 posts)
14. Oh SNAP!!! Madame Speaker becomes President Pelosi. Imagine that!!
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 12:24 PM
Jul 2020

I'm sure the Rethugs will love that

Celerity

(43,076 posts)
43. no, as IF there are NO elections in November, then come January 3rd, the House has no members
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 02:16 PM
Jul 2020

the Senate will reduced to 65 (35 seats are up, 33 regular, and 2 special elections) on January 3rd as well.

33 Dems, 30 Rethugs, and then Sanders and King.

The 35 strong Dem Caucasus will elect a President Pro Temp, who then would become POTUS on January 20th, 2021 and remain POTUS until the nightmare is sorted out. I think they would not pick Leahy, but someone else as PPT. IF Biden picks a Senator as VP, then they would probably make that person PPT (and thus POTUS for a spell.)

I will admit that it could get really crazy if some states hold elections and others do not. I have no answer for what would happen then (in regards to Congress especially).

whopis01

(3,491 posts)
66. Vacant Senate seats can be filled by Governors
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 08:29 AM
Jul 2020

The 17th amendment allows the executive branch of each state to appoint temporary replacements in the case of vacancies.

So that balance of 35 to 33 won’t last very long in that scenario.

GB_RN

(2,322 posts)
44. Definitely can't happen
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 02:18 PM
Jul 2020

The Constitution requires that the election be held every four years. Election day was by Congress, back in 1845. [link:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Election_Day_Act|]

Good luck to El Caudillo Del Mar-a-Lago getting Nancy Pelosi to sign off on moving the election because, reasons.🙄 😂

TomSlick

(11,086 posts)
64. It's a fine point but the election date is set by federal statute, not the constitution.
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 12:32 AM
Jul 2020

There is no possibility the House would vote to change the election date, so it isn't going to happen.

You are correct but for the wrong reason.

GB_RN

(2,322 posts)
67. Umm...
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 04:44 PM
Jul 2020

I actually DID point out the specific statute that sets the date of the election. I even linked to the relevant Wikipedia article on it, which was enacted by Congress in 1845.

Kid Berwyn

(14,789 posts)
2. He won't "work on that."
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 11:40 AM
Jul 2020

If the election was safe and secure he would never win.

“The things they had in there were crazy. They had things, levels of voting that if you’d ever agreed to it, you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again,” Trump said during an appearance on Fox & Friends. “They had things in there about election days and what you do and all sorts of clawbacks. They had things that were just totally crazy and had nothing to do with workers that lost their jobs and companies that we have to save.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/30/trump-republican-party-voting-reform-coronavirus

SergeStorms

(19,150 posts)
26. From the same article...
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 12:58 PM
Jul 2020

"Trump’s Monday comments showed he saw voter suppression as part of his re-election strategy, the Democratic National Committee (DNC) said in a statement Monday. “Ensuring that Americans can vote during the Covid-19 crisis is fundamental to maintaining our democracy. It is shocking that Trump is essentially admitting that when the American people vote, Republican lose,” said Xochitl Hinojosa, a DNC spokeswoman. “Trump knows that suppressing the vote is the only way he and Republicans win in November.”

Voter suppression is part of their strategy. Of course we all know that, but to see it in black and white, right from a republican's lying, stinking, diseased mouth is sobering all the same. We have to get every Democratic voter to the polls this year, even if it means wrapping them in Saran Wrap and giving them S.C.U.B.A. gear.

BComplex

(8,017 posts)
7. That was my first thought. She's about to get the "you're fired" treatment.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 11:52 AM
Jul 2020

The old IG treatment.

Just looked it up. They cannot be fired. They are nominated by the president, and confirmed by the senate for a term of 6 years.

Retrograde

(10,128 posts)
33. Current House seats all expire on Jan. 3, 2021
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 01:30 PM
Jul 2020

If there's no election in November what happens to the House? Will the states that do all-mail voting send be the only ones left with representatives? I don't want to go down that rathole.

avebury

(10,951 posts)
34. I don't see how Trump could prevent states from holding state elections
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 01:38 PM
Jul 2020

which would allow those states to vote for US Representatives and US Senators (where appropriate).

yellowdogintexas

(22,216 posts)
65. if it goes past Jan 2, every state legislature in the country
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:12 AM
Jul 2020

would be decimated. We'd lose all our House members and half of our state senators

AllyCat

(16,135 posts)
41. A discussion I had on Twitter we thought
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 02:11 PM
Jul 2020

a third of Senate seats will also expire. That makes the remaining 65 seats 35-30 D-R. Dems have majority. Elect new pro temp and we get a Democrat as acting POTUS until elections take place nationwide.

Response to SoonerPride (Reply #5)

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
20. He's just as wrong as the idiot he works for
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 12:52 PM
Jul 2020

Not up to you or the DOJ, so you can tell Barr to stop salivating.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
24. Poopeo is full of poop.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 12:55 PM
Jul 2020

As usual, he's just making shit up. DOJ doesn't get to change the date or cancel the elections, which are managed by the states.

crickets

(25,951 posts)
6. So *there*, donnie.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 11:45 AM
Jul 2020
"States and localities are asking you and Congress for funds so they can properly run the safe and secure elections all Americans want," she added. "Why don't you work on that?"


We all know why, but good for Weintraub for pointing it out.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
8. lifelong con artist tRump, an NBC made reality show star, his presidency is & has been fashioned
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 12:15 PM
Jul 2020

after a reality show with one liners & daily drama, this is just the daily act to feed the show. He has made much more money playing president than he could ever dream to make on NBC

0rganism

(23,920 posts)
11. "work"? he doesn't do "work"
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 12:21 PM
Jul 2020

to Trump, "work" is getting the makeup just right so he can feel comfy when he blabs at the cameras or goes golfing
for anything resembling "work" on behalf of Americans, he delegates to an unqualified crony

Response to 0rganism (Reply #11)

Roc2020

(1,613 posts)
12. He knows he is going to lose
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 12:22 PM
Jul 2020

and is paranoid desperate. Trump right now is a very dangerous man and requires strong attention from authorities designed to protect the country.

onetexan

(13,019 posts)
23. In deed, he'll continue to consolidate power & make himself lifetime president like Putin, Kim & Xi
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 12:55 PM
Jul 2020

Crazyleftie

(458 posts)
15. The media is feeding his brain
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 12:25 PM
Jul 2020

with these thoughts

first it was asking him will he accept the election

now it is asking him if he will postpone the election

the media is just stirring the pot for controversy and ratings......

maxsolomon

(33,232 posts)
17. "the media" is not a monolith
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 12:46 PM
Jul 2020

if you mean FoxNews or OAN, then say it. MSNBC isn't suggesting he suspend the election and impose an Authoritarian Dictatorship simply FOR RATINGS.

Or do you mean print media? the NYT or WaPo? He doesn't read those, because he doesn't read.

it's more likely his ADVISERS, in the WH and in his campaign, are strategizing options to delay his crushing defeat.

Response to mucifer (Original post)

Saviolo

(3,278 posts)
28. He's not setting the groundwork to move the election
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 01:00 PM
Jul 2020

He is setting the groundwork to dismiss the results if he doesn't like them because of all of the widespread fraud that he has now forecast. He's setting the groundwork to try to completely invalidate the electoral results and to get his rabid and heavily armed supporters to take to the streets if he loses. Look at his original tweet. He doesn't lead off with "moving the election" he leads off with "INACCURATE AND FRAUDULENT!" because that's the truth he's trying to spin.

leftieNanner

(15,058 posts)
30. And from what Barr has been saying
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 01:18 PM
Jul 2020

He will totally get behind the "fraudulent election" BS. He WILL throw the DOJ onto the Idiot-in-Chief's side. He said something in his testimony to the House Judiciary Committee the other day that if the election is close, he will investigate.

Response to Saviolo (Reply #28)

Saviolo

(3,278 posts)
40. That's all well and good...
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 02:08 PM
Jul 2020

But what happens when the streets are full of Tru(mp)e Believers (TM)(C)(R) with lots of guns screaming that the Democrats stole the election? No way this ends calmly.

ProfessorGAC

(64,827 posts)
39. Let Them Whine
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 02:02 PM
Jul 2020

They can complain about fraud all they want.
There won't be any proof so the results will be whatever they are.
Their complaining will just be noise.

Saviolo

(3,278 posts)
45. We've said this over and over regarding Trump.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 02:22 PM
Jul 2020

Every time it's some idea that the checks and balances will somehow step in and stop him, but right now we're all coming to terms with the fact that it's all being run on the honor system, and guess who doesn't have any? Sure, he was impeached, but the Senate cleared him. He's never going to lose the support of the cronies his put in the DOJ, and his little spineless enablers like Sue Collins in the Senate. He breaks the law all the time with impunity, and everyone creases their brow at him in concern and looks towards the election which is already being tampered with (because there will be massive mail-in voting, Trump is screwing with the USPS:

Time: "U.S. Postal Service Considers Downsizing, Senator and Union Leader Say"

MarketWatch: "Postal Service may close offices, cut service ahead of election"

And why? Because the Trump admin/Congress hasn’t given the USPS any bailout funds and has put in a postmaster general who is now having carriers prioritize delivery of commercial packages over that of regular mail.

WaPo: "Postal Service memos detail ‘difficult’ changes, including slower mail delivery"

He's been eroding the infrastructure for a free and fair election since he took office (and the GOP for a long time before that), and it's crumbling now.

ProfessorGAC

(64,827 posts)
46. Does Your Neck Hurt?
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 02:32 PM
Jul 2020

Mine almost does from the whiplash of you changing the subject at Warp 6.
The post to which I replied wasn't about how THEY are trying to fix the election.
It was about setting up to call the results illegitimate.
What does your reply have to do with that?

Saviolo

(3,278 posts)
59. It's about fraudulent elections.
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 05:25 PM
Jul 2020

He's setting the expectation that the elections will be fraudulent, and one of the ways he's doing that is by associating mail-in ballots with fraud. At the same time he's making it -harder- to vote by mail, which he'll be able to spin into more "evidence" that mail-in ballots are fraudulent. True or not, evidence or not, proof or not, he'll be able to say the election was fraudulent and the most rabid of his supporters will fight to fall over themselves to defend him.

leftieNanner

(15,058 posts)
31. Can you flag or report this tweet?
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 01:19 PM
Jul 2020

It is full of lies. Shouldn't Twitter do something? (silly question, I know)

Response to AlexSFCA (Reply #35)

Response to CaptainTruth (Reply #47)

Warpy

(111,124 posts)
53. GOP senators are also shooting the idea down
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 03:21 PM
Jul 2020

I think they realize any delay will just cause anti GOP sentiment to build and the GOP will not only fail to retain their majority, they will also fail to retain any seats up for reelection.

Cha

(296,780 posts)
58. 'Cause trump is a ******* Fascist-Putin's Puppet.. but
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 04:28 PM
Jul 2020

thanks for the question to him and the Encouragement.

bucolic_frolic

(43,028 posts)
60. Trump either has no case or a weak case. If he has a good one, he's not telling you, which is why
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 06:35 PM
Jul 2020

you should be concerned. We've been forewarned. This is a statement of intention, entitlement, a prescription for grand larceny.

Our Democratic leaders and party and lawyers should burn the midnight oil from now to January 21. There will be multiple obstacles, perhaps contingent or conjoined. We must fight every one of them.

And I am concerned that it's what they're not telling you is what's important. Some obscure, simple legal principle like an injunction. 'You should invalidate the election because I am being harmed by it.'

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
62. In other news,
Thu Jul 30, 2020, 07:39 PM
Jul 2020

no one seems to have the power to pull tRumps head out of his ass. It's stuck for the duration.

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